The 49ers Really Botched The QB Spot This Year

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Grahamhawker":1ctk7k8w said:
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What a mess. In a vacuum even, history shows- what ~50% of the first round QBs will bust- so not really a surprise if it happens. Thing is the way it's playing out could hurt the franchise for years.

Like...um...what?

Please expand on that thought?

They have a young QB with potential off the charts that expectedly has been up and down in preseason. They have a vet QB who QBed the team to a SB appearance ahead of him so the rookie doesn't need to be forced onto the field.

So...what exactly is "playing out" that could hurt the franchise?

Just hilarious how badly peeps here WANT Lance to be a bust that they ignore all info otherwise. I mean I get it...its a Seahawks fan site and Lance booming would be bad...but the reach is really funny to me.

Can't wait to hear this...

If you give up that much to get your guy, he darn well better work out is all I'm saying; and often they don't. Meanwhile still paying JG more than many think he's worth. Hey, it may all work out great, but let's not pretend it couldn't go south.

It very well could go south but we wont know until the season actully starts.

I do find it interesting that Hawk fans seem to be more concerned about the 9ers QB situation than 9er fans.
 

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Washington49er":29ci3dp5 said:
Grahamhawker":29ci3dp5 said:
Marvin49":29ci3dp5 said:
Grahamhawker":29ci3dp5 said:
What a mess. In a vacuum even, history shows- what ~50% of the first round QBs will bust- so not really a surprise if it happens. Thing is the way it's playing out could hurt the franchise for years.

Like...um...what?

Please expand on that thought?

They have a young QB with potential off the charts that expectedly has been up and down in preseason. They have a vet QB who QBed the team to a SB appearance ahead of him so the rookie doesn't need to be forced onto the field.

So...what exactly is "playing out" that could hurt the franchise?

Just hilarious how badly peeps here WANT Lance to be a bust that they ignore all info otherwise. I mean I get it...its a Seahawks fan site and Lance booming would be bad...but the reach is really funny to me.

Can't wait to hear this...

If you give up that much to get your guy, he darn well better work out is all I'm saying; and often they don't. Meanwhile still paying JG more than many think he's worth. Hey, it may all work out great, but let's not pretend it couldn't go south.

It very well could go south but we wont know until the season actully starts.

I do find it interesting that Hawk fans seem to be more concerned about the 9ers QB situation than 9er fans.
What's interesting about that? In this case, I think Hawk's fans have a more realistic concern than Niner's fans. 1) You gave up a lot of draft picks for a promising yet raw player. 2) Your fans overvalue your current roster and Jimmy G. 3) We don't view you as true rivals, so we can look at the situation objectively. 4) We'd like you to be relevant as much as your fans do.
 

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knownone":30ub0fd7 said:
Washington49er":30ub0fd7 said:
Grahamhawker":30ub0fd7 said:
Marvin49":30ub0fd7 said:
Like...um...what?

Please expand on that thought?

They have a young QB with potential off the charts that expectedly has been up and down in preseason. They have a vet QB who QBed the team to a SB appearance ahead of him so the rookie doesn't need to be forced onto the field.

So...what exactly is "playing out" that could hurt the franchise?

Just hilarious how badly peeps here WANT Lance to be a bust that they ignore all info otherwise. I mean I get it...its a Seahawks fan site and Lance booming would be bad...but the reach is really funny to me.

Can't wait to hear this...

If you give up that much to get your guy, he darn well better work out is all I'm saying; and often they don't. Meanwhile still paying JG more than many think he's worth. Hey, it may all work out great, but let's not pretend it couldn't go south.

It very well could go south but we wont know until the season actully starts.

I do find it interesting that Hawk fans seem to be more concerned about the 9ers QB situation than 9er fans.
What's interesting about that? In this case, I think Hawk's fans have a more realistic concern than Niner's fans. 1) You gave up a lot of draft picks for a promising yet raw player. 2) Your fans overvalue your current roster and Jimmy G. 3) We don't view you as true rivals, so we can look at the situation objectively. 4) We'd like you to be relevant as much as your fans do.

Your opinion is noted.
 

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9ers/raiders started. They're playing mostly offensive starters.

JimmyG just got the touchdown.
 

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What's Jimmy G's trade value? Dude is a superbowl QB with quick release ..... questionable durability ...... perfect as backup?
 

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Washington49er":2hwtaf17 said:
knownone":2hwtaf17 said:
Washington49er":2hwtaf17 said:
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If you give up that much to get your guy, he darn well better work out is all I'm saying; and often they don't. Meanwhile still paying JG more than many think he's worth. Hey, it may all work out great, but let's not pretend it couldn't go south.

It very well could go south but we wont know until the season actully starts.

I do find it interesting that Hawk fans seem to be more concerned about the 9ers QB situation than 9er fans.
What's interesting about that? In this case, I think Hawk's fans have a more realistic concern than Niner's fans. 1) You gave up a lot of draft picks for a promising yet raw player. 2) Your fans overvalue your current roster and Jimmy G. 3) We don't view you as true rivals, so we can look at the situation objectively. 4) We'd like you to be relevant as much as your fans do.

Your opinion is noted.
Let's be real here. You're 13-25 against us since we joined the NFC West. We're not rivals. And if you need to make note of the fact that I think your fans overrate your talent, that speaks to your lack of knowledge of the fan base, some of whom insist they are a legit SB contender with Jimmy G.
 

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knownone":31si6r0s said:
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It very well could go south but we wont know until the season actully starts.

I do find it interesting that Hawk fans seem to be more concerned about the 9ers QB situation than 9er fans.
What's interesting about that? In this case, I think Hawk's fans have a more realistic concern than Niner's fans. 1) You gave up a lot of draft picks for a promising yet raw player. 2) Your fans overvalue your current roster and Jimmy G. 3) We don't view you as true rivals, so we can look at the situation objectively. 4) We'd like you to be relevant as much as your fans do.

Your opinion is noted.
Let's be real here. You're 13-25 against us since we joined the NFC West. We're not rivals. And if you need to make note of the fact that I think your fans overrate your talent, that speaks to your lack of knowledge of the fan base, some of whom insist they are a legit SB contender with Jimmy G.

9ers have been to the SB with Jimmy, why would I think they can't again.

Sorry if I'm not going along with your 9ers are doomed theories.

Never considered Hawks true rivals, its always been 9ers and Rams rivalry.
 

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Washington49er":29o7pji0 said:
knownone":29o7pji0 said:
Washington49er":29o7pji0 said:
knownone":29o7pji0 said:
What's interesting about that? In this case, I think Hawk's fans have a more realistic concern than Niner's fans. 1) You gave up a lot of draft picks for a promising yet raw player. 2) Your fans overvalue your current roster and Jimmy G. 3) We don't view you as true rivals, so we can look at the situation objectively. 4) We'd like you to be relevant as much as your fans do.

Your opinion is noted.
Let's be real here. You're 13-25 against us since we joined the NFC West. We're not rivals. And if you need to make note of the fact that I think your fans overrate your talent, that speaks to your lack of knowledge of the fan base, some of whom insist they are a legit SB contender with Jimmy G.

9ers have been to the SB with Jimmy, why would I think they can't again.

Sorry if I'm not going along with your 9ers are doomed theories.

Never considered Hawks true rivals, its always been 9ers and Rams rivalry.

Spoken like a true denier, we don't want you to count because we have not been able to own you. Pity we are not the Falcons, Panthers, Saints that you were so used to beating up on for those Championship runs much like the Patriots did in their division. The reshuffle with us and the Cards to the NFC West really changed the field of play for you.
 

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chris98251":38v95bf3 said:
Washington49er":38v95bf3 said:
knownone":38v95bf3 said:
Washington49er":38v95bf3 said:
Your opinion is noted.
Let's be real here. You're 13-25 against us since we joined the NFC West. We're not rivals. And if you need to make note of the fact that I think your fans overrate your talent, that speaks to your lack of knowledge of the fan base, some of whom insist they are a legit SB contender with Jimmy G.

9ers have been to the SB with Jimmy, why would I think they can't again.

Sorry if I'm not going along with your 9ers are doomed theories.

Never considered Hawks true rivals, its always been 9ers and Rams rivalry.

Spoken like a true denier, we don't want you to count because we have not been able to own you. Pity we are not the Falcons, Panthers, Saints that you were so used to beating up on for those Championship runs much like the Patriots did in their division. The reshuffle with us and the Cards to the NFC West really changed the field of play for you.

Whatever gets you through the day Mr 1-2
 

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I think if you can look at the nfc west and realistically any of the teams has a chance of winning it this year. And yes that includes the 49ers for the simple fact that Boss AND Dee Ford are back. Everyone thought Dee Ford was done with his back injury last year. Our defence is going to keep us in games even if our offence is middle of the road.

Interesting watching this last preseason game. Lance and Garoppolo were almost alternating plays for the first quarter and a half. Not sure if Shanahan is actually going to do that or if he is just messing with Detroit ? We saw Tayson hill come in for a few plays in NO, but I don’t remember seeing alternation liike that. Not sure if I like it, but it will be interesting to watch if they do it.

Did you like the alternation Marvin?
 

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Just humiliated Raider 34-10! Tell you what, Trey Lance is ready to start, Jimmy G on trading block, winning with Lance so much more satisfying for the GM and HC. Is Jimmy G better than Geno Smith? Should we consider him as backup to Wilson?
 

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Washington49er":24wv84cx said:
chris98251":24wv84cx said:
Washington49er":24wv84cx said:
knownone":24wv84cx said:
Let's be real here. You're 13-25 against us since we joined the NFC West. We're not rivals. And if you need to make note of the fact that I think your fans overrate your talent, that speaks to your lack of knowledge of the fan base, some of whom insist they are a legit SB contender with Jimmy G.

9ers have been to the SB with Jimmy, why would I think they can't again.

Sorry if I'm not going along with your 9ers are doomed theories.

Never considered Hawks true rivals, its always been 9ers and Rams rivalry.

Spoken like a true denier, we don't want you to count because we have not been able to own you. Pity we are not the Falcons, Panthers, Saints that you were so used to beating up on for those Championship runs much like the Patriots did in their division. The reshuffle with us and the Cards to the NFC West really changed the field of play for you.

Whatever gets you through the day Mr 1-2

Yeah, how was the playoffs last year, or umm year before, or..............
 

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chris98251":azaukpsn said:
Washington49er":azaukpsn said:
chris98251":azaukpsn said:
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9ers have been to the SB with Jimmy, why would I think they can't again.

Sorry if I'm not going along with your 9ers are doomed theories.

Never considered Hawks true rivals, its always been 9ers and Rams rivalry.

Spoken like a true denier, we don't want you to count because we have not been able to own you. Pity we are not the Falcons, Panthers, Saints that you were so used to beating up on for those Championship runs much like the Patriots did in their division. The reshuffle with us and the Cards to the NFC West really changed the field of play for you.

Whatever gets you through the day Mr 1-2

Yeah, how was the playoffs last year, or umm year before, or..............

You all say our SB trophys are old history but none of them were before the Hawks came to the NFL.

If the Hawks are so dominant then why only one SB in that same time period? You had the chance in the AFC and NFC.
 

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Washington49er":1ig7osco said:
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Washington49er":1ig7osco said:
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What's interesting about that? In this case, I think Hawk's fans have a more realistic concern than Niner's fans. 1) You gave up a lot of draft picks for a promising yet raw player. 2) Your fans overvalue your current roster and Jimmy G. 3) We don't view you as true rivals, so we can look at the situation objectively. 4) We'd like you to be relevant as much as your fans do.

Your opinion is noted.
Let's be real here. You're 13-25 against us since we joined the NFC West. We're not rivals. And if you need to make note of the fact that I think your fans overrate your talent, that speaks to your lack of knowledge of the fan base, some of whom insist they are a legit SB contender with Jimmy G.

9ers have been to the SB with Jimmy, why would I think they can't again.

Sorry if I'm not going along with your 9ers are doomed theories.

Never considered Hawks true rivals, its always been 9ers and Rams rivalry.
I don't know. Nick Foles won a Super Bowl in his prime. And considering you've had 6 losing seasons in 7 years, maybe you'd have realistic expectations for a team with a middling QB? That's just me.

Where did I express any theories of doom? Or is that what we're calling facts in San Fran... Santa Clara these days?

Of course, you don't consider us a rival. You've lost damn near 70% of the games.
 

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Washington49er":30vfodui said:
chris98251":30vfodui said:
Washington49er":30vfodui said:
chris98251":30vfodui said:
Spoken like a true denier, we don't want you to count because we have not been able to own you. Pity we are not the Falcons, Panthers, Saints that you were so used to beating up on for those Championship runs much like the Patriots did in their division. The reshuffle with us and the Cards to the NFC West really changed the field of play for you.

Whatever gets you through the day Mr 1-2

Yeah, how was the playoffs last year, or umm year before, or..............

You all say our SB trophys are old history but none of them were before the Hawks came to the NFL.

If the Hawks are so dominant then why only one SB in that same time period? You had the chance in the AFC and NFC.
How many have you won in the salary cap era?
 

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knownone":3qqajden said:
Washington49er":3qqajden said:
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Washington49er":3qqajden said:
Your opinion is noted.
Let's be real here. You're 13-25 against us since we joined the NFC West. We're not rivals. And if you need to make note of the fact that I think your fans overrate your talent, that speaks to your lack of knowledge of the fan base, some of whom insist they are a legit SB contender with Jimmy G.

9ers have been to the SB with Jimmy, why would I think they can't again.

Sorry if I'm not going along with your 9ers are doomed theories.

Never considered Hawks true rivals, its always been 9ers and Rams rivalry.
I don't know. Nick Foles won a Super Bowl in his prime. And considering you've had 6 losing seasons in 7 years, maybe you'd have realistic expectations for a team with a middling QB? That's just me.

Where did I express any theories of doom? Or is that what we're calling facts in San Fran... Santa Clara these days?

Of course, you don't consider us a rival. You've lost damn near 70% of the games.

No I don't consider the Hawks a rival simply because you're not.

You seem to think you know more than the 9ers GM and Head coach. Sorry if I value their opinions over that of yours.

Everyone is a winner and everyone is a loser til the season starts.

Since we're on the subject of speculation, how do you feel about the Hawks chances this year?
 

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Washington49er":274htxxz said:
chris98251":274htxxz said:
Washington49er":274htxxz said:
knownone":274htxxz said:
Let's be real here. You're 13-25 against us since we joined the NFC West. We're not rivals. And if you need to make note of the fact that I think your fans overrate your talent, that speaks to your lack of knowledge of the fan base, some of whom insist they are a legit SB contender with Jimmy G.

9ers have been to the SB with Jimmy, why would I think they can't again.

Sorry if I'm not going along with your 9ers are doomed theories.

Never considered Hawks true rivals, its always been 9ers and Rams rivalry.

Spoken like a true denier, we don't want you to count because we have not been able to own you. Pity we are not the Falcons, Panthers, Saints that you were so used to beating up on for those Championship runs much like the Patriots did in their division. The reshuffle with us and the Cards to the NFC West really changed the field of play for you.

Whatever gets you through the day Mr 1-2
Ok Mr 0-2’er.
 

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Washington49er":sv1qb5r6 said:
knownone":sv1qb5r6 said:
Washington49er":sv1qb5r6 said:
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Let's be real here. You're 13-25 against us since we joined the NFC West. We're not rivals. And if you need to make note of the fact that I think your fans overrate your talent, that speaks to your lack of knowledge of the fan base, some of whom insist they are a legit SB contender with Jimmy G.

9ers have been to the SB with Jimmy, why would I think they can't again.

Sorry if I'm not going along with your 9ers are doomed theories.

Never considered Hawks true rivals, its always been 9ers and Rams rivalry.
I don't know. Nick Foles won a Super Bowl in his prime. And considering you've had 6 losing seasons in 7 years, maybe you'd have realistic expectations for a team with a middling QB? That's just me.

Where did I express any theories of doom? Or is that what we're calling facts in San Fran... Santa Clara these days?

Of course, you don't consider us a rival. You've lost damn near 70% of the games.

No I don't consider the Hawks a rival simply because you're not.

You seem to think you know more than the 9ers GM and Head coach. Sorry if I value their opinions over that of yours.

Everyone is a winner and everyone is a loser til the season starts.

Since we're on the subject of speculation, how do you feel about the Hawks chances this year?
1) I understand. We're more like your dad than your rival.

2) Your illustrious GM and coach have 1 winning season in 4 years. I value reality over their opinion of it.

3) That's why I'm looking at previous seasons when setting expectations. In which case, your team has predominantly been a loser. Will it change? Maybe. But that doesn't change what has already happened.

4) My realistic prediction for the Hawks is that of a division title contender. If things go their way injury-wise, they can be a legitimate SB contender, but that feels like wishful thinking, given the relative strength of the division. Luckily, we have two games against the Niners to pad our stats in the division. We'll need all the help we can get, and your team is typically happy to oblige.
 
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