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  • Just waiting for someone to make the thread saying get it done
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  • Nope. Green Bay isn’t on Russ’ “list” and Seattle isn’t on Erin’s.


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  • How the hell can you expect anyone to take you serious after this? :roll:
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  • purely hypothetical, but yes, you make that trade.
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  • Smellyman wrote:purely hypothetical, but yes, you make that trade.



    would be a stupid trade 1. he is 5+ years older. @ he has caused more problems than almost any Qb around except Watson right now. 3. his cap hit next year is 44mil. 4 he has missed more games due injury and 5. their stats are really close to the same

    Rodgers career year avg, current age 37 and has missed 9 games I removed his first 3 years as he really did not play

    64.1 complt
    3918 yp year
    31 tds per year
    6.2 td %
    103.5 Qb rating
    251 Rushing yard per year avg
    2 rushing tds on avg per year

    total Tds oer year 33
    Total yards per year 4169 yards

    Wilson career year avg current age 32 and has missed 0 games
    65.1 complt %
    3771 yards per year
    30 tds per year
    6.2 td%
    101.7 qb rating
    500 rushig yards on avg per year
    2 rushing tds per year

    total yards 4271
    total tds 32

    so NO
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  • scutterhawk wrote:How the hell can you expect anyone to take you serious after this? :roll:

    I'm not for the trade. It's just with all the insane stuff I've seen on here, I'm not going to be surprised when this comes up
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  • John63 wrote:
    Smellyman wrote:purely hypothetical, but yes, you make that trade.



    would be a stupid trade 1. he is 5+ years older. @ he has caused more problems than almost any Qb around except Watson right now. 3. his cap hit next year is 44mil. 4 he has missed more games due injury and 5. their stats are really close to the same

    Rodgers career year avg, current age 37 and has missed 9 games I removed his first 3 years as he really did not play

    64.1 complt
    3918 yp year
    31 tds per year
    6.2 td %
    103.5 Qb rating
    251 Rushing yard per year avg
    2 rushing tds on avg per year

    total Tds oer year 33
    Total yards per year 4169 yards

    Wilson career year avg current age 32 and has missed 0 games
    65.1 complt %
    3771 yards per year
    30 tds per year
    6.2 td%
    101.7 qb rating
    500 rushig yards on avg per year
    2 rushing tds per year

    total yards 4271
    total tds 32

    so NO


    Maybe Erin can teach Russ the art of the QB sneak and getting the D to jump offsides.
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  • Easy yes but we could probably get a pick due to the age difference.

    Dude is just a straight up better, more natural talent who can do everything on the field in a way Russ can't.
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  • Not to mention Russ is gone next year anyway..so might as well do the deal.
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  • pinksheets wrote:Easy yes but we could probably get a pick due to the age difference.

    Dude is just a straight up better, more natural talent who can do everything on the field in a way Russ can't.


    :lol:
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  • pinksheets wrote:Easy yes but we could probably get a pick due to the age difference.

    Dude is just a straight up better, more natural talent who can do everything on the field in a way Russ can't.


    One looks like he is 37 going on 30 and the other looks 32 going on 43
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  • John63 wrote:
    pinksheets wrote:Easy yes but we could probably get a pick due to the age difference.

    Dude is just a straight up better, more natural talent who can do everything on the field in a way Russ can't.


    :lol:

    I'm right. It's not an insult to Russ to say he's not as good as Aaron Rodgers.
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  • I don’t think there is any debate that Rodgers is better than Wilson. Rodgers has carried some average teams to the NFC championship game several times. Russ has yet to prove he can do that without help.
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  • Blow harts really think this trade would be bad. Surprise surprise.

    Rodgers is a few yrs older then Wilson. Big deal.

    Wilson plays another season here and if Hawks have off year then the drama hasn't gone away and become a distraction. Wasted season for nothing. Wilson gone next season and then what do the Hawks have for QB?

    Some of you act like Rodgers isn't upgrade over Wilson. Not to mention Rodgers doesn't have a drama side show circus going on as Wilson does.
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  • Let me guess. If Pats had offered Tom Brady (HOF multiiple time SB winner) when he wanted out of New England for Wilson then you would also be saying the same thing how it's a stupid trade and still butt hurt over losing to SB vs Pats when that loss was all on Pete Carroll.
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  • Smellyman wrote:
    pinksheets wrote:Easy yes but we could probably get a pick due to the age difference.

    Dude is just a straight up better, more natural talent who can do everything on the field in a way Russ can't.


    One looks like he is 37 going on 30 and the other looks 32 going on 43



    1 has missed double digit games in his last 9 the other has missed none
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  • knownone wrote:I don’t think there is any debate that Rodgers is better than Wilson. Rodgers has carried some average teams to the NFC championship game several times. Russ has yet to prove he can do that without help.



    Hmm and whe did Rodgers do that. He has been to nfc champion ship game 6 times. Every time.he had either a top 10 defense and or top 10 run game. Not so avg huh. And in half he had both. Interesting thing the only time.he won an SB he has top 5 defense and run game.

    Hmm all we need to make your statement id.for Rodgers to do it with an avg team has not happened yet.
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  • What is interesting here is Rodgers has had huge family issues, got coaches fired and is now trying to force his way out and some yoy are good with it anyway. But when the media made a much bigger deal what Wilson said u wanted to castrate him.
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  • John63 wrote:
    knownone wrote:I don’t think there is any debate that Rodgers is better than Wilson. Rodgers has carried some average teams to the NFC championship game several times. Russ has yet to prove he can do that without help.



    Hmm and whe did Rodgers do that. He has been to nfc champion ship game 6 times. Every time.he had either a top 10 defense and or top 10 run game. Not so avg huh. And in half he had both. Interesting thing the only time.he won an SB he has top 5 defense and run game.

    Hmm all we need to make your statement id.for Rodgers to do it with an avg team has not happened yet.

    What metrics are you looking at?

    2019: 18th defense : 15th rushing
    2016: 22nd defense : 20th rushing
    2014: 15th defense : 11th rushing

    In the past 10 years, Rodgers had one top 10 defense and two top 10 rushing attacks, according to PFR. During that same stretch, Wilson has had 5 top 5 defenses and 7 top 10 rushing attacks. If you look at their stats from 2016-present: Rodgers is averaging 35td-5int-4200yds/season to Wilson's 32td-9int-4000yds/season. On top of that, last season was the best season of Wilson's career, and Rodgers still threw for more yards, on fewer attempts, while throwing 8 more tds and 8 fewer interceptions.

    Wilson is definitely in the same league as Rodgers, but you're drinking a little too much Kool-Aid if you think they are equals at this point in their careers.
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  • John63 wrote:
    knownone wrote:I don’t think there is any debate that Rodgers is better than Wilson. Rodgers has carried some average teams to the NFC championship game several times. Russ has yet to prove he can do that without help.



    Hmm and whe did Rodgers do that. He has been to nfc champion ship game 6 times. Every time.he had either a top 10 defense and or top 10 run game. Not so avg huh. And in half he had both. Interesting thing the only time.he won an SB he has top 5 defense and run game.

    Hmm all we need to make your statement id.for Rodgers to do it with an avg team has not happened yet.


    When is the last time Wilson made the NFC Championship game? Hawks haven't gotten past the Divisional round since the SB Int embarrassment which this team hasn't recovered from. How many consecutive divisional playoff losses in a row coupled with missing the playoffs and going out in the wild card this past season.
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  • John63 wrote:What is interesting here is Rodgers has had huge family issues, got coaches fired and is now trying to force his way out and some yoy are good with it anyway. But when the media made a much bigger deal what Wilson said u wanted to castrate him.


    Unlike Wilson who should be have gotten Pete fired for all his short comings and failures. If you gonna say Rodgers is a drama queen don't sit there and tell me Wilson isn't one himself with the current Hawks drama along with the attention Wilson & Ciara are constantly seeking.
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  • For Russel Wilson? Absolutely.
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  • So you have two stars who are both unhappy with their team's management -- and you're going to trade them for each other?????
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  • Welshers wrote:
    scutterhawk wrote:How the hell can you expect anyone to take you serious after this? :roll:

    I'm not for the trade. It's just with all the insane stuff I've seen on here, I'm not going to be surprised when this comes up


    Well congrats, it came up and you started it.
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  • Yeah that's an easy yes, even as a fan of Wilson. Even at his age Rodgers could still get you a SB or two with this roster.
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  • lol in what world doesn't Rodgers come with a circus of his own? Sure there are reasons where that trade can be made but to say Rodgers doesn't come with drama is ridiculous
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  • I would honestly say no. Rodgers is going to be 38 this year and he's always played with dominant offensive lines. There is no guarantee he would be as good with our offensive line. He's not nearly as nimble as he was 10 years ago.
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  • Double check...nope. Keep Russ.
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  • hawksfansince90 wrote:
    John63 wrote:What is interesting here is Rodgers has had huge family issues, got coaches fired and is now trying to force his way out and some yoy are good with it anyway. But when the media made a much bigger deal what Wilson said u wanted to castrate him.


    Unlike Wilson who should be have gotten Pete fired for all his short comings and failures. If you gonna say Rodgers is a drama queen don't sit there and tell me Wilson isn't one himself with the current Hawks drama along with the attention Wilson & Ciara are constantly seeking.


    The only difference is McCarthy didn't have as much power as Pete does to stop his QB from leveraging him out. That's the only reason Russell hasn't been able to dictate and control more of what he sees wrong with the Hawk's staff and organization.

    You guys are kidding yourselves if you don't think Russell wants the kind of control over his coaches and career that Rodgers and Brady now has.

    This is the new dawn of entitled sports stars. Lebron, Rodgers, Brady, Harden, Davis......now Russell.

    So strap yourselves in, we're in for a bumpy ride the next 2-3 years with Russell.
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  • hawksfansince90 wrote:
    John63 wrote:
    knownone wrote:I don’t think there is any debate that Rodgers is better than Wilson. Rodgers has carried some average teams to the NFC championship game several times. Russ has yet to prove he can do that without help.



    Hmm and whe did Rodgers do that. He has been to nfc champion ship game 6 times. Every time.he had either a top 10 defense and or top 10 run game. Not so avg huh. And in half he had both. Interesting thing the only time.he won an SB he has top 5 defense and run game.

    Hmm all we need to make your statement id.for Rodgers to do it with an avg team has not happened yet.


    When is the last time Wilson made the NFC Championship game? Hawks haven't gotten past the Divisional round since the SB Int embarrassment which this team hasn't recovered from. How many consecutive divisional playoff losses in a row coupled with missing the playoffs and going out in the wild card this past season.



    Not the point but I understand the need to change the subject the statement was Rodgers got to NFC Champ with mediocre teams, that is false.
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  • hawksfansince90 wrote:
    John63 wrote:What is interesting here is Rodgers has had huge family issues, got coaches fired and is now trying to force his way out and some yoy are good with it anyway. But when the media made a much bigger deal what Wilson said u wanted to castrate him.


    Unlike Wilson who should be have gotten Pete fired for all his short comings and failures. If you gonna say Rodgers is a drama queen don't sit there and tell me Wilson isn't one himself with the current Hawks drama along with the attention Wilson & Ciara are constantly seeking.



    again the point was said that Rodgers does not have the baggage that some think Wilson does., This again is false.

    But again I understand your need to deflect.
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  • ducks41468 wrote:Yeah that's an easy yes, even as a fan of Wilson. Even at his age Rodgers could still get you a SB or two with this roster.



    really he has had several rosters as good or better and still no SB plus he would be in PCs system
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  • A_Biased_Fan wrote:I would honestly say no. Rodgers is going to be 38 this year and he's always played with dominant offensive lines. There is no guarantee he would be as good with our offensive line. He's not nearly as nimble as he was 10 years ago.



    exactly but keep in mind there is some here who would take the #3 Qb form a high school team over Wilson, This has little to do with football and more to do with dislike
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  • Pete Carroll and Aaron Rodgers? Oh boy! Good luck to the OC stuck between those two.
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  • Oi Vey!!!

    Such a thread, such complete rubbish. It’d be a trade which would financially screw the cap for both teams.

    The league collectively would be rolling on the floor laughing their asses off at the collective stupidity of both teams.

    My answer is absolutely not.
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  • Pete Carroll might just be the perfect coach for Rodgers right now, if Pete could put together a functional running in Carson , penny plus a Robinson like full back, running could take a lot of pressure off an aging Rodgers. And Pete seems to get along with head cases.

    But Russ is younger so no to straight swap. It would have to be with picks.

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  • Rodgers about to retire and go play Jeopardy so this dont really matter ;)
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  • I wouldn't do it. Russ is tbe slightly better QB.
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  • Thjis thread just shows the hypocrisy and hat eont thisboard for Wilson

    argument 1 Rodgers wen tot NFC Champ with avg teams. Guess what False
    Argument 2 Rodgers has less baggage again FALSE
    Argument 3 Ciara and Wilson got to much going on. yeah getting people to get the vaccine, giving money for kids for food, to keep schools open etc its called giving back to the community. Guess what there is nothing showing Rodgers doing any of that. Add in Rodgers does more commercials than Wilson oh and he is now with Shaleen whatever do you think she wants to live in GB? NOT
    Argument for against Wilson cap hit. Guess what kids Wilson cap hit is 5 mill less than Rodgers in 2021

    Lost of out-and-out false statements and hypocritical statements
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  • John63 wrote:Thjis thread just shows the hypocrisy and hat eont thisboard for Wilson

    argument 1 Rodgers wen tot NFC Champ with avg teams. Guess what False
    Argument 2 Rodgers has less baggage again FALSE
    Argument 3 Ciara and Wilson got to much going on. yeah getting people to get the vaccine, giving money for kids for food, to keep schools open etc its called giving back to the community. Guess what there is nothing showing Rodgers doing any of that. Add in Rodgers does more commercials than Wilson oh and he is now with Shaleen whatever do you think she wants to live in GB? NOT
    Argument for against Wilson cap hit. Guess what kids Wilson cap hit is 5 mill less than Rodgers in 2021

    Lost of out-and-out false statements and hypocritical statements


    I don't believe any of this, I just think Rodgers is a more complete QB than Russell.

    So all things being equal if they were the same age and contracts were the same? I'd take Rodgers over Russell. But they're not, so I wouldn't make this trade.

    4-5 years is WAY too much age to give up on that many years more with an elite QB.
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  • Smellyman wrote:
    pinksheets wrote:Easy yes but we could probably get a pick due to the age difference.

    Dude is just a straight up better, more natural talent who can do everything on the field in a way Russ can't.


    One looks like he is 37 going on 30 and the other looks 32 going on 43

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :2thumbs:
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  • The lolz....continue
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  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    John63 wrote:Thjis thread just shows the hypocrisy and hat eont thisboard for Wilson

    argument 1 Rodgers wen tot NFC Champ with avg teams. Guess what False
    Argument 2 Rodgers has less baggage again FALSE
    Argument 3 Ciara and Wilson got to much going on. yeah getting people to get the vaccine, giving money for kids for food, to keep schools open etc its called giving back to the community. Guess what there is nothing showing Rodgers doing any of that. Add in Rodgers does more commercials than Wilson oh and he is now with Shaleen whatever do you think she wants to live in GB? NOT
    Argument for against Wilson cap hit. Guess what kids Wilson cap hit is 5 mill less than Rodgers in 2021

    Lost of out-and-out false statements and hypocritical statements


    I don't believe any of this, I just think Rodgers is a more complete QB than Russell.

    So all things being equal if they were the same age and contracts were the same? I'd take Rodgers over Russell. But they're not, so I wouldn't make this trade.

    4-5 years is WAY too much age to give up on that many years more with an elite QB.

    Depends how much more is RW going to age in 2-3 years?Slow Russ =?
    We know Erin has slowed but he has as you say more of a complete skill set
    that I think will get him past 40 like Brady.There is a injury history but I think
    he knows better to get rid of the ball instead of running away like he used to.
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  • This entire fan base are flicked blow harts. You think Pete Carroll is the greatest thing ever was. Enjoy another season of mediocrity and continued success with that endeavor. This fan base and Seattle media little b!@ch like Aaron Levine you all deserve what you get.

    Things are working out so well with name choice for Seattle NHL team. Crackheads has a nice ring to it. LMFAO
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  • No thanks, he'd be extremely inefficient behind our O line..
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  • hawker84 wrote:No thanks, he'd be extremely injured behind our O line..

    Fixed it for you.
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  • pinksheets wrote:
    John63 wrote:
    pinksheets wrote:Easy yes but we could probably get a pick due to the age difference.

    Dude is just a straight up better, more natural talent who can do everything on the field in a way Russ can't.


    :lol:

    I'm right. It's not an insult to Russ to say he's not as good as Aaron Rodgers.


    Aaron Rodgers is more talented than Wilson. He is not a better QB. I’m happy to have this debate
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  • hawksfansince90 wrote:
    John63 wrote:
    knownone wrote:I don’t think there is any debate that Rodgers is better than Wilson. Rodgers has carried some average teams to the NFC championship game several times. Russ has yet to prove he can do that without help.



    Hmm and whe did Rodgers do that. He has been to nfc champion ship game 6 times. Every time.he had either a top 10 defense and or top 10 run game. Not so avg huh. And in half he had both. Interesting thing the only time.he won an SB he has top 5 defense and run game.

    Hmm all we need to make your statement id.for Rodgers to do it with an avg team has not happened yet.


    When is the last time Wilson made the NFC Championship game? Hawks haven't gotten past the Divisional round since the SB Int embarrassment which this team hasn't recovered from. How many consecutive divisional playoff losses in a row coupled with missing the playoffs and going out in the wild card this past season.



    LOL

    Rodgers has not made the super bowl since 2010. He finished the season with a losing record 2 years ago.

    He got his coach fired, has a top 5 O-line, very good defense, a running game, a top 3 WR, an elite scheme, and STILL can’t get it done.

    The Packers have given Rodgers way more...arguably than the Seahawks ever have. Yet here you are, saying nasty things about Wilson yet equating their behavior (Rodgers has behaved far worse). Please check your bias because at this point you’re intentionally choosing to be unfair to our QB
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  • Scorpion05 wrote:
    hawksfansince90 wrote:
    John63 wrote:
    knownone wrote:I don’t think there is any debate that Rodgers is better than Wilson. Rodgers has carried some average teams to the NFC championship game several times. Russ has yet to prove he can do that without help.



    Hmm and whe did Rodgers do that. He has been to nfc champion ship game 6 times. Every time.he had either a top 10 defense and or top 10 run game. Not so avg huh. And in half he had both. Interesting thing the only time.he won an SB he has top 5 defense and run game.

    Hmm all we need to make your statement id.for Rodgers to do it with an avg team has not happened yet.


    When is the last time Wilson made the NFC Championship game? Hawks haven't gotten past the Divisional round since the SB Int embarrassment which this team hasn't recovered from. How many consecutive divisional playoff losses in a row coupled with missing the playoffs and going out in the wild card this past season.



    LOL

    Rodgers has not made the super bowl since 2010. He finished the season with a losing record 2 years ago.

    He got his coach fired, has a top 5 O-line, very good defense, a running game, a top 3 WR, an elite scheme, and STILL can’t get it done.

    The Packers have given Rodgers way more...arguably than the Seahawks ever have. Yet here you are, saying nasty things about Wilson yet equating their behavior (Rodgers has behaved far worse). Please check your bias because at this point you’re intentionally choosing to be unfair to our QB


    It's unbelievable the rose colored glasses people are having with Rodgers. Since 2015 I'm confident in saying Russell has outperformed Rodgers 4 seasons (2015, 2017, 2018, 2019) and Rodgers has had outperformed Russell in 2 seasons (2016 and 2020). People should not be acting like Rodgers is out and out better. I think it's debatable who is a going to be a more effective QB in the next few years. Rodgers still has a great arm. But he's lost a lot in his legs and generally requires elite OL play to keep him upright. Russell can't make all the throws Rodgers can, but his escapability is better and he can make things out of nothing like no one.

    Oh, and their guy just allegedly threatened retirement. So a team player he isn't.
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  • Scorpion05 wrote:
    pinksheets wrote:
    John63 wrote:
    pinksheets wrote:Easy yes but we could probably get a pick due to the age difference.

    Dude is just a straight up better, more natural talent who can do everything on the field in a way Russ can't.


    :lol:

    I'm right. It's not an insult to Russ to say he's not as good as Aaron Rodgers.


    Aaron Rodgers is more talented than Wilson. He is not a better QB. I’m happy to have this debate


    Aaron Rodgers has 3 MVP's how many does Wilson have? For that matter how many MVP votes does Wilson have?
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