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vin.couve12":3w2516hv said:
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McKissic only got on the field last year because of the situation at RB. Carson was on IR, Prosise was on IR, and Davis was injured seemingly every other game....and the other guys just flat out sucked.

McKissic basically has no use to us as a RB now. He's terrible as an inside runner and is only useful as an outside runner if he gets a clean lane. He's a very, very bad pass blocker and being the WR convert that he is, his best and really only asset to us at RB is as a pass catcher.

Honestly, are you going to take Carson, Davis, or Penny off the field for a WR convert that is only good at catching the ball? He has no use case anymore except as a KR and MAYBE a gunner...unless he comes back as yet another small WR.

Even if you're talking Prosise, HE'S actually the healthy one now and we're talking about a "runner" in McKissic who's recovering from a broken bone in a running ass foot and was never good as an actual RB in the first place. McKissic played because of just how bad the situation was last year.

The situation's changed entirely.

Prosise has not seen the field really, McKissic also is a return guy, I know you hate getting interrupted while your in the middle of pissing on everything. Penny being a RB can return kicks, but McKissic can excel at that and keep Penny fresh as well as serve as a different look completely as a quick twitch guy. Prosise I don't think plays special teams either or has not been able to. You have Lockett as a punt return guy already, McKissic as a Kick off guy would limit Lockett's exposer to more hits, he has become much more valuable as a WR now.
I'm not pissing on everything. I'm pissing on McKissic's ability as a pure RB. Guys were on IR and McKissic was pretty much the smartest kid in summer school when Davis wasn't available.

Prosise was never a pure RB, he was a conversion project as well from a WR, in fact I would go as far to say Penny is what they wanted Prosise to become when they drafted him.
 

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chris98251":3htuweom said:
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McKissic only got on the field last year because of the situation at RB. Carson was on IR, Prosise was on IR, and Davis was injured seemingly every other game....and the other guys just flat out sucked.

McKissic basically has no use to us as a RB now. He's terrible as an inside runner and is only useful as an outside runner if he gets a clean lane. He's a very, very bad pass blocker and being the WR convert that he is, his best and really only asset to us at RB is as a pass catcher.

Honestly, are you going to take Carson, Davis, or Penny off the field for a WR convert that is only good at catching the ball? He has no use case anymore except as a KR and MAYBE a gunner...unless he comes back as yet another small WR.

Even if you're talking Prosise, HE'S actually the healthy one now and we're talking about a "runner" in McKissic who's recovering from a broken bone in a running ass foot and was never good as an actual RB in the first place. McKissic played because of just how bad the situation was last year.

The situation's changed entirely.

Prosise has not seen the field really, McKissic also is a return guy, I know you hate getting interrupted while your in the middle of pissing on everything. Penny being a RB can return kicks, but McKissic can excel at that and keep Penny fresh as well as serve as a different look completely as a quick twitch guy. Prosise I don't think plays special teams either or has not been able to. You have Lockett as a punt return guy already, McKissic as a Kick off guy would limit Lockett's exposer to more hits, he has become much more valuable as a WR now.
I'm not pissing on everything. I'm pissing on McKissic's ability as a pure RB. Guys were on IR and McKissic was pretty much the smartest kid in summer school when Davis wasn't available.

Prosise was never a pure RB, he was a conversion project as well from a WR, in fact I would go as far to say Penny is what they wanted Prosise to become when they drafted him.
But he's got more ability as a pure RB. That's neither here nor there though. You're talking 4th string. Cut Prosise and get McKissic back...what happens? McKissic is inactive for every game that doesn't have an injured back and still doesn't see the field even if he is active due to injury.

Makes no difference if you have Prosise or McKissic. Just another inactive on the 53.
 

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vin.couve12":3pazwo8p said:
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Prosise has not seen the field really, McKissic also is a return guy, I know you hate getting interrupted while your in the middle of pissing on everything. Penny being a RB can return kicks, but McKissic can excel at that and keep Penny fresh as well as serve as a different look completely as a quick twitch guy. Prosise I don't think plays special teams either or has not been able to. You have Lockett as a punt return guy already, McKissic as a Kick off guy would limit Lockett's exposer to more hits, he has become much more valuable as a WR now.
I'm not pissing on everything. I'm pissing on McKissic's ability as a pure RB. Guys were on IR and McKissic was pretty much the smartest kid in summer school when Davis wasn't available.

Prosise was never a pure RB, he was a conversion project as well from a WR, in fact I would go as far to say Penny is what they wanted Prosise to become when they drafted him.
But he's got more ability as a pure RB. That's neither here nor there though. You're talking 4th string. Cut Prosise and get McKissic back...what happens? McKissic is inactive for every game that doesn't have an injured back and still doesn't see the field even if he is active due to injury.

Makes no difference if you have Prosise or McKissic. Just another inactive on the 53.

It does make a difference, you have a different look, you can give Lockett less reps at a return guy and he is more available on offense, you can sit Brown on inactive and McKissic can fill that roll and as a Kick Return and a 3rd down guy or situational RB with a different look. You also are more likely to get something in return for Prosise if you try and trade him.
 

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vin.couve12":2dg2w6zv said:
chris98251":2dg2w6zv said:
vin.couve12":2dg2w6zv said:
McKissic only got on the field last year because of the situation at RB. Carson was on IR, Prosise was on IR, and Davis was injured seemingly every other game....and the other guys just flat out sucked.

McKissic basically has no use to us as a RB now. He's terrible as an inside runner and is only useful as an outside runner if he gets a clean lane. He's a very, very bad pass blocker and being the WR convert that he is, his best and really only asset to us at RB is as a pass catcher.

Honestly, are you going to take Carson, Davis, or Penny off the field for a WR convert that is only good at catching the ball? He has no use case anymore except as a KR and MAYBE a gunner...unless he comes back as yet another small WR.

Even if you're talking Prosise, HE'S actually the healthy one now and we're talking about a "runner" in McKissic who's recovering from a broken bone in a running ass foot and was never good as an actual RB in the first place. McKissic played because of just how bad the situation was last year.

The situation's changed entirely.

Prosise has not seen the field really, McKissic also is a return guy, I know you hate getting interrupted while your in the middle of pissing on everything. Penny being a RB can return kicks, but McKissic can excel at that and keep Penny fresh as well as serve as a different look completely as a quick twitch guy. Prosise I don't think plays special teams either or has not been able to. You have Lockett as a punt return guy already, McKissic as a Kick off guy would limit Lockett's exposer to more hits, he has become much more valuable as a WR now.
I'm not pissing on everything. I'm pissing on McKissic's ability as a pure RB. Guys were on IR and McKissic was pretty much the smartest kid in summer school when Davis wasn't available.

You have your facts wrong. Davis was on the practice squad last year from Sept until he was activated for the Nov 20 game. He missed only 1 of the 7 games he was on the active roster. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... viMi01.htm McKissic, meanwhile, played every game from week 4 to the end (453 total yards, 3 TD). https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... elog/2017/ McKissic was a very effective 3rd down back. And Prosise played games 1-3, 6 & 9 so McKissic also played with Prosise active twice—and McKissic was just better. So your premise that the only reason McKissic saw the field was because of Davis and Prosise injured is factually incorrect. He saw the field because he contributed when given the chance.

And as Chris suggested, McKissic can return punts and kicks to relieve Lockett’s burden so I welcome him back on the roster when ready. Unlike 2016 1 game wonder Prosise who hasn’t done crap ever since and doesn’t contribute to special teams either.
 

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McKissic, at the very best, might be more effective than Prosise, but it's still irrelevant. He'll still be inactive.

All this ridiculous nonsense about a player who won't play.

"It will make ____ difference if McKissic plays."

"We would be better than 5-5 if only we had McKissic."

"They think we have a RB crew now, well just wait until they see our secret weapon, McKissic"

See how stupid that sounds?

You want to make a roster move for literally no purpose. For a player who won't play.
 

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West TX Hawk":3hk39fmo said:
vin.couve12":3hk39fmo said:
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McKissic only got on the field last year because of the situation at RB. Carson was on IR, Prosise was on IR, and Davis was injured seemingly every other game....and the other guys just flat out sucked.

McKissic basically has no use to us as a RB now. He's terrible as an inside runner and is only useful as an outside runner if he gets a clean lane. He's a very, very bad pass blocker and being the WR convert that he is, his best and really only asset to us at RB is as a pass catcher.

Honestly, are you going to take Carson, Davis, or Penny off the field for a WR convert that is only good at catching the ball? He has no use case anymore except as a KR and MAYBE a gunner...unless he comes back as yet another small WR.

Even if you're talking Prosise, HE'S actually the healthy one now and we're talking about a "runner" in McKissic who's recovering from a broken bone in a running ass foot and was never good as an actual RB in the first place. McKissic played because of just how bad the situation was last year.

The situation's changed entirely.

Prosise has not seen the field really, McKissic also is a return guy, I know you hate getting interrupted while your in the middle of pissing on everything. Penny being a RB can return kicks, but McKissic can excel at that and keep Penny fresh as well as serve as a different look completely as a quick twitch guy. Prosise I don't think plays special teams either or has not been able to. You have Lockett as a punt return guy already, McKissic as a Kick off guy would limit Lockett's exposer to more hits, he has become much more valuable as a WR now.
I'm not pissing on everything. I'm pissing on McKissic's ability as a pure RB. Guys were on IR and McKissic was pretty much the smartest kid in summer school when Davis wasn't available.

You have your facts wrong. Davis was on the practice squad last year from Sept until he was activated for the Nov 20 game. He missed only 1 of the 7 games he was on the active roster. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... viMi01.htm McKissic, meanwhile, played every game from week 4 to the end (453 total yards, 3 TD). https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... elog/2017/ McKissic was a very effective 3rd down back. And Prosise played games 1-3, 6 & 9 so McKissic also played with Prosise active twice—and McKissic was just better. So your premise that the only reason McKissic saw the field was because of Davis and Prosise injured is factually incorrect. He saw the field because he contributed when given the chance.

And as Chris suggested, McKissic can return punts and kicks to relieve Lockett’s burden so I welcome him back on the roster when ready. Unlike 2016 1 game wonder Prosise who hasn’t done crap ever since and doesn’t contribute to special teams either.
Lmao with that total yards. You're trying to make it look better than it is. He's a sorry RB and your adding his return yards into it. On top of that, a blitzer alwayd crushes him and gets to Wilson.
 

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vin.couve12":1n85uo5k said:
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Prosise has not seen the field really, McKissic also is a return guy, I know you hate getting interrupted while your in the middle of pissing on everything. Penny being a RB can return kicks, but McKissic can excel at that and keep Penny fresh as well as serve as a different look completely as a quick twitch guy. Prosise I don't think plays special teams either or has not been able to. You have Lockett as a punt return guy already, McKissic as a Kick off guy would limit Lockett's exposer to more hits, he has become much more valuable as a WR now.
I'm not pissing on everything. I'm pissing on McKissic's ability as a pure RB. Guys were on IR and McKissic was pretty much the smartest kid in summer school when Davis wasn't available.

You have your facts wrong. Davis was on the practice squad last year from Sept until he was activated for the Nov 20 game. He missed only 1 of the 7 games he was on the active roster. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... viMi01.htm McKissic, meanwhile, played every game from week 4 to the end (453 total yards, 3 TD). https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... elog/2017/ McKissic was a very effective 3rd down back. And Prosise played games 1-3, 6 & 9 so McKissic also played with Prosise active twice—and McKissic was just better. So your premise that the only reason McKissic saw the field was because of Davis and Prosise injured is factually incorrect. He saw the field because he contributed when given the chance.

And as Chris suggested, McKissic can return punts and kicks to relieve Lockett’s burden so I welcome him back on the roster when ready. Unlike 2016 1 game wonder Prosise who hasn’t done crap ever since and doesn’t contribute to special teams either.
Lmao with that total yards. You're trying to make it look better than it is. He's a sorry RB and your adding his return yards into it. On top of that, a blitzer alwayd crushes him and gets to Wilson.

You really have no clue as to what you assert as a fact do you? Those were just McKissic's rushing and receiving yards-not return yards. Regardless, you spouted off random fiction about Davis being injured every other game when you had no clue what you were talking about. My main point is McKissic is a helluva lot better option as a 4th back/wr/returner than having Prosise on the roster. Prosise is garbage, just like your resuscitation of "facts."
 

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West TX Hawk":3kgmi1t2 said:
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I'm not pissing on everything. I'm pissing on McKissic's ability as a pure RB. Guys were on IR and McKissic was pretty much the smartest kid in summer school when Davis wasn't available.

You have your facts wrong. Davis was on the practice squad last year from Sept until he was activated for the Nov 20 game. He missed only 1 of the 7 games he was on the active roster. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... viMi01.htm McKissic, meanwhile, played every game from week 4 to the end (453 total yards, 3 TD). https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... elog/2017/ McKissic was a very effective 3rd down back. And Prosise played games 1-3, 6 & 9 so McKissic also played with Prosise active twice—and McKissic was just better. So your premise that the only reason McKissic saw the field was because of Davis and Prosise injured is factually incorrect. He saw the field because he contributed when given the chance.

And as Chris suggested, McKissic can return punts and kicks to relieve Lockett’s burden so I welcome him back on the roster when ready. Unlike 2016 1 game wonder Prosise who hasn’t done crap ever since and doesn’t contribute to special teams either.
Lmao with that total yards. You're trying to make it look better than it is. He's a sorry RB and your adding his return yards into it. On top of that, a blitzer alwayd crushes him and gets to Wilson.

You really have no clue as to what you assert as a fact do you? Those were just McKissic's rushing and receiving yards-not return yards. Regardless, you spouted off random fiction about Davis being injured every other game when you had no clue what you were talking about. My main point is McKissic is a helluva lot better option as a 4th back/wr/returner than having Prosise on the roster. Prosise is garbage, just like your resuscitation of "facts."
I never said they were facts. I was recollecting how a small WR was playing RB for us waaaaaay too much. He'll never see the field regardless of Prosise, which is an odd argument to get hung up on given that it's an irrelevant roster move.

EDIT: He had 187 yards rushing and 1 TD. There...ya happy? We're gonna win so many more games as soon as he comes back. I totally agree now. Yep. Suuuure gonna....get those extra dubs.
 

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I'm glad someone else chimed in outside of Chris, who this was never directed at. Even reporters ask about JD friggin McKissic. It's the dumbest damn thing.

"Hey, we want to ask a really important question about a 4th or 5th string running back."

Again, see how $@#%$ stupid that sounds?
 

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McKissic is a specialist. He is a WR listed as a RB. They do this to get him matched up with Linebackers instead of Corners in the passing game on 3rd down.

He is also a special teams contributor, and plays with great energy.

I like him. He is a secret weapon that no one will see coming.

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I think Mycal Kendricks is a pretty good Linebacker. Not on this play in the link. McKissic burns him for the easy TD.
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I really liked what I saw from Mckissic during the regular season last year . I was one of the many who were surprised he made the team but after you saw the ball in his hands the dude is electric . Once he’s healthy he’ll be on our active roster . Go Hawks !

Promise on the other hand . Great talent , just get take a hit .
 

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McKissic is a nice route runner and returner option, but he was never going to make a dent as a RB.
 

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MontanaHawk05":qfykj7lr said:
McKissic is a nice route runner and returner option, but he was never going to make a dent as a RB.
I think he could be a dynamic 3rd down back, which means he's a hybrid WR/H-back. ;)
 

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The McKissic/Davis/Prosise third down back debate seems a little silly for the same reasons as the Carson/Penny debates in previous weeks. Injuries can happen in the NFL to anybody but our third down backs have all missed significant time very recently.

Having a healthy Prosise inactive isn't good for his career individually but it's been great for the Seahawks. Depth is such a key factor in the NFL. I'd love to read complaints next off-season about how terrible it was that we had too many healthy RBs this year.
 

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Davis will likely get a raise and play elsewhere next year where he's got a shot at not sharing so many reps with two other RBs. This year is good for his resume.
 

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Really, is that what players think? Trade a chance to be a big contributor on a potential championship team in the very near future for a gamble at being a solo running star for some 6-10 perenial rebuilders?
 

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Really, is that what players think? Trade a chance to be a big contributor on a potential championship team in the very near future for a gamble at being a solo running star for some 6-10 perenial rebuilders?

Sure...it usually means more money.
 

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Really, is that what players think? Trade a chance to be a big contributor on a potential championship team in the very near future for a gamble at being a solo running star for some 6-10 perenial rebuilders?

All about that money boss. Unless they're a vet with only a year left, players will go where they can start and cash in.
 

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Really, is that what players think? Trade a chance to be a big contributor on a potential championship team in the very near future for a gamble at being a solo running star for some 6-10 perenial rebuilders?

All about that money boss. Unless they're a vet with only a year left, players will go where they can start and cash in.

Sam Bradford endorses this post.
 

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I guess we'll see how this plays out re: the character of Mike Davis. My feeling is that most of the players with that "character trait" were flushed during the off-season.
 

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