Zebulon Dak
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loafoftatupu":2a9qbbpd said:Cooper might be a stupid drunk, but he isn't a flipping racist. I bet every locker room in the NFL has players saying that word x300 daily.
ANY asswipe who uses that word should be fined if Cooper is getting fined. The guy came out and gave a genuine apology, feels genuine remorse and more than likely has established strong friendships with black people that aren't going to end because he made a mistake.
Unfortunately the media will seal his fate and there are groups who will feed off this, amplifying it into something totally false.
The guy was a drunk idiot, not a bigot. His punishment will be undeserving and catastrophic.
drdiags":22b775qo said:Looking at this follow-up by deadspin
Riley was going xxxxxx nuts because he wasn't allowed backstage. He didn't have passes like some of the other players and was SO pissed that the stadium people wouldn't let him back just because he was Riley Cooper.
He had had been drinking since 11 AM (Kenny didn't go on until 8.
Maybe the N-word was just anybody preventing him from hanging with his boy Chesney?
http://deadspin.com/riley-cooper-was-pissed-he-couldnt-go-backstage-at-ken-981432082
The great divide.
Zebulon Dak":1ytgqtrn said:loafoftatupu":1ytgqtrn said:Cooper might be a stupid drunk, but he isn't a flipping racist. I bet every locker room in the NFL has players saying that word x300 daily.
ANY asswipe who uses that word should be fined if Cooper is getting fined. The guy came out and gave a genuine apology, feels genuine remorse and more than likely has established strong friendships with black people that aren't going to end because he made a mistake.
Unfortunately the media will seal his fate and there are groups who will feed off this, amplifying it into something totally false.
The guy was a drunk idiot, not a bigot. His punishment will be undeserving and catastrophic.
I'm really trying to agree with you. I want this to be the case. But there's a part of me that thinks that when you have a conflict with somebody and things get emotional and you use a racial slur, then there's a part of you that thinks of that person as that racial slur. You're minimizing that person to your perceived stereotypes of his ethnic background. And that makes you racist. I can't really see it any other way and I'm honestly trying (despite what Roland posts in response to this).
Hey the B-word never really pis.sed me off...Now, the c-word on the other hand.......Osprey":2v944mvy said:Zebulon Dak":2v944mvy said:loafoftatupu":2v944mvy said:Cooper might be a stupid drunk, but he isn't a flipping racist. I bet every locker room in the NFL has players saying that word x300 daily.
ANY asswipe who uses that word should be fined if Cooper is getting fined. The guy came out and gave a genuine apology, feels genuine remorse and more than likely has established strong friendships with black people that aren't going to end because he made a mistake.
Unfortunately the media will seal his fate and there are groups who will feed off this, amplifying it into something totally false.
The guy was a drunk idiot, not a bigot. His punishment will be undeserving and catastrophic.
I'm really trying to agree with you. I want this to be the case. But there's a part of me that thinks that when you have a conflict with somebody and things get emotional and you use a racial slur, then there's a part of you that thinks of that person as that racial slur. You're minimizing that person to your perceived stereotypes of his ethnic background. And that makes you racist. I can't really see it any other way and I'm honestly trying (despite what Roland posts in response to this).
So if you've ever called a woman a bitch, etc you are by definition a sexist bigot?
Osprey":2tmxksa3 said:Zebulon Dak":2tmxksa3 said:loafoftatupu":2tmxksa3 said:Cooper might be a stupid drunk, but he isn't a flipping racist. I bet every locker room in the NFL has players saying that word x300 daily.
ANY asswipe who uses that word should be fined if Cooper is getting fined. The guy came out and gave a genuine apology, feels genuine remorse and more than likely has established strong friendships with black people that aren't going to end because he made a mistake.
Unfortunately the media will seal his fate and there are groups who will feed off this, amplifying it into something totally false.
The guy was a drunk idiot, not a bigot. His punishment will be undeserving and catastrophic.
I'm really trying to agree with you. I want this to be the case. But there's a part of me that thinks that when you have a conflict with somebody and things get emotional and you use a racial slur, then there's a part of you that thinks of that person as that racial slur. You're minimizing that person to your perceived stereotypes of his ethnic background. And that makes you racist. I can't really see it any other way and I'm honestly trying (despite what Roland posts in response to this).
So if you've ever called a woman a bitch, etc you are by definition a sexist bigot?
I think it's more ignorant than racist. Repeated actions and use of such words towards a specific group would make you racist, imho.Zebulon Dak":2h1ohrpk said:Osprey":2h1ohrpk said:Zebulon Dak":2h1ohrpk said:loafoftatupu said:Cooper might be a stupid drunk, but he isn't a flipping racist. I bet every locker room in the NFL has players saying that word x300 daily.
ANY asswipe who uses that word should be fined if Cooper is getting fined. The guy came out and gave a genuine apology, feels genuine remorse and more than likely has established strong friendships with black people that aren't going to end because he made a mistake.
Unfortunately the media will seal his fate and there are groups who will feed off this, amplifying it into something totally false.
The guy was a drunk idiot, not a bigot. His punishment will be undeserving and catastrophic.
I'm really trying to agree with you. I want this to be the case. But there's a part of me that thinks that when you have a conflict with somebody and things get emotional and you use a racial slur, then there's a part of you that thinks of that person as that racial slur. You're minimizing that person to your perceived stereotypes of his ethnic background. And that makes you racist. I can't really see it any other way and I'm honestly trying (despite what Roland posts in response to this).
So if you've ever called a woman a bitch, etc you are by definition a sexist bigot?
We've been thoroughly desensitized to that one so it's way less of a big deal to most people, but yeah... it's sexist.
Look, I'm not saying using a racial slur in the manner that Cooper did makes you a KKK member or anything, he doesn't deserve to be hanged or lynched over it, but it's racist.