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[John63]

Posted this on the thread at page top, but I'll postit again here.

https://elitesportsny.com/2020/03/17/ne ... happening/

Good to know, doe snot change my concerns though.

 

[HawkStrong]

It's like you guys have never experienced the Seahawks in free agency before. Stop crying.

 

[King Dog]

It's like you guys have never experienced the Seahawks in free agency before. Stop crying.

You probably said the same thing last season when we ended up with Ziggy Ansah

 

[Nunya]

Ugh.

There is an entire roster to fill here. There are several positions that need depth, and there's a very large free agent that they'd almost certainly like to retain in Clowney. They've already re-signed Reed and retained a lot of guys from 2019.

Stop mistaking a lack of splashy free agent overpayment for a degradation in quality of the team. That money can be used much more intelligently than by trading away picks for very expensive players just because. ⁸

Now, maybe if they strike out on Clowney, they sign a few dudes. But, again, there is an entire roster to flesh out here.

It's not about splashynits about anything outside of our own which last year was not enough to get us to the SB which is the goal. We got Olson to be one of 5 TEs meanwhile we need d line, o line, cb, safety etc.

Dude, that's total crap. This whole free agent stuff has barely even started, and we have an entire upcoming draft. There are a bunch of spots to fill, and safety isn't even really a need to be honest.

Again, this is barely even the first wave. There will be more signings to fill the roster.

and again barely started or not there are players being signed and traded that could have made us better, and we have done almost nothing but sign our own which again was not good enough to get us to the goal of the SB. And again reminder KC signed the best FA DE and got to the SB.

While Clark was rated high as a 2019 FA, he was not considered "the best". Of the DE's that ended up being signed by other teams, (based on Walterfootball), Tre Flowers was ranked higher at #3, Clark was ranked as #4. Clowney was ranked #1 and Ansah was ranked #6. Both were picked up by Seattle and did not have the impact expected.

https://walterfootball.com/freeagents2019DE.php

Signing splashy FAs is not always the answer and quite often resorts in a team spending large amounts of money, killing their cap space, only to see the expensive FAs under perform or even sit out injured for a significant portion of the season. While the Seahawks did have a significant cap space at the beginning of FA, we also have MANY players on the team that are FA's themselves.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/seahawks-m ... --nfl.html

Many of the players listed were starters last season. If we do not sign them we would need to replace them with a player that needs to be starter ready by the beginning of the season. We certainly do not have the cap space for that. Just one "splashy" FA signing could completely burn up all excess cap space and put us at a disadvantage during signing of our draft picks and/or when considering possible trades.

While it is always nice to dream of a high dollar FA signing and the impact they might have for the team, the big picture needs to be looked at as well. FA envy seldom looks at the big picture.

 

[John63]

It's like you guys have never experienced the Seahawks in free agency before. Stop crying.

or we can contiue to have the covnersatoin which is what a forum is for. Also just becase the Hawks do it, dow nto mean it is the right thing to do. IF it were we woudl not have to go back to 2013 for a decent FA class.

 

[John63]

It's not about splashynits about anything outside of our own which last year was not enough to get us to the SB which is the goal. We got Olson to be one of 5 TEs meanwhile we need d line, o line, cb, safety etc.

Dude, that's total crap. This whole free agent stuff has barely even started, and we have an entire upcoming draft. There are a bunch of spots to fill, and safety isn't even really a need to be honest.

Again, this is barely even the first wave. There will be more signings to fill the roster.

and again barely started or not there are players being signed and traded that could have made us better, and we have done almost nothing but sign our own which again was not good enough to get us to the goal of the SB. And again reminder KC signed the best FA DE and got to the SB.

While Clark was rated high as a 2019 FA, he was not considered "the best". Of the DE's that ended up being signed by other teams, (based on Walterfootball), Tre Flowers was ranked higher at #3, Clark was ranked as #4. Clowney was ranked #1 and Ansah was ranked #6. Both were picked up by Seattle and did not have the impact expected.

https://walterfootball.com/freeagents2019DE.php

Signing splashy FAs is not always the answer and quite often resorts in a team spending large amounts of money, killing their cap space, only to see the expensive FAs under perform or even sit out injured for a significant portion of the season. While the Seahawks did have a significant cap space at the beginning of FA, we also have MANY players on the team that are FA's themselves.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/seahawks-m ... --nfl.html

Many of the players listed were starters last season. If we do not sign them we would need to replace them with a player that needs to be starter ready by the beginning of the season. We certainly do not have the cap space for that. Just one "splashy" FA signing could completely burn up all excess cap space and put us at a disadvantage during signing of our draft picks and/or when considering possible trades.

While it is always nice to dream of a high dollar FA signing and the impact they might have for the team, the big picture needs to be looked at as well. FA envy seldom looks at the big picture.

All good points but does not change the FACT that several of those FAs would have made us better which is the object.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Dude, that's total crap. This whole free agent stuff has barely even started, and we have an entire upcoming draft. There are a bunch of spots to fill, and safety isn't even really a need to be honest.

Again, this is barely even the first wave. There will be more signings to fill the roster.

and again barely started or not there are players being signed and traded that could have made us better, and we have done almost nothing but sign our own which again was not good enough to get us to the goal of the SB. And again reminder KC signed the best FA DE and got to the SB.

While Clark was rated high as a 2019 FA, he was not considered "the best". Of the DE's that ended up being signed by other teams, (based on Walterfootball), Tre Flowers was ranked higher at #3, Clark was ranked as #4. Clowney was ranked #1 and Ansah was ranked #6. Both were picked up by Seattle and did not have the impact expected.

https://walterfootball.com/freeagents2019DE.php

Signing splashy FAs is not always the answer and quite often resorts in a team spending large amounts of money, killing their cap space, only to see the expensive FAs under perform or even sit out injured for a significant portion of the season. While the Seahawks did have a significant cap space at the beginning of FA, we also have MANY players on the team that are FA's themselves.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/seahawks-m ... --nfl.html

Many of the players listed were starters last season. If we do not sign them we would need to replace them with a player that needs to be starter ready by the beginning of the season. We certainly do not have the cap space for that. Just one "splashy" FA signing could completely burn up all excess cap space and put us at a disadvantage during signing of our draft picks and/or when considering possible trades.

While it is always nice to dream of a high dollar FA signing and the impact they might have for the team, the big picture needs to be looked at as well. FA envy seldom looks at the big picture.

All good points but does not change the FACT that several of those FAs would have made us better which is the object.

They only have like 15-16m of real cap space remaining, not including cuts. They don't have unlimited space to add outside free agents while keeping the pieces they have.

Clowney has got to be the priority. After Clowney, there's pretty much room for just depth signings and MAYBE an Ifedi extension if Britt is cut.

Signing outside free agents to appease you opens up other holes elsewhere. This isn't a simple "hurr durr add more players please boss" proposition here.

 

[Chawker]

We've lost Q. Jefferson to Buffalo. I wanted to keephim .... Oh well

 

[Appyhawk]

It's like you guys have never experienced the Seahawks in free agency before. Stop crying.

Ah...at last a voice of experience chimes in! I'm all ears Hawk Strong, to hear what a FA plan that will work looks like when all the big fish in the aquarium are gone.
It's been pretty well established the draft this year is not strong at DE and edge players, What is your plan?

 

[Sandpoint Hawk]

We've lost Q. Jefferson to Buffalo. I wanted to keephim .... Oh well

Damn I was hoping we’d keep him

 

[HawkStrong]

It's like you guys have never experienced the Seahawks in free agency before. Stop crying.

or we can contiue to have the covnersatoin which is what a forum is for. Also just becase the Hawks do it, dow nto mean it is the right thing to do. IF it were we woudl not have to go back to 2013 for a decent FA class.

I am not saying stop having a conversation about it, I am saying stop crying in your beers over it. The off-season has barely started.

The Hawks have done well in free agency over the years. Yes they have some misses, but every team does. What I do know, teams that win free agency usually do jack squat in the regular season.

 

[John63]

and again barely started or not there are players being signed and traded that could have made us better, and we have done almost nothing but sign our own which again was not good enough to get us to the goal of the SB. And again reminder KC signed the best FA DE and got to the SB.

While Clark was rated high as a 2019 FA, he was not considered "the best". Of the DE's that ended up being signed by other teams, (based on Walterfootball), Tre Flowers was ranked higher at #3, Clark was ranked as #4. Clowney was ranked #1 and Ansah was ranked #6. Both were picked up by Seattle and did not have the impact expected.

https://walterfootball.com/freeagents2019DE.php

Signing splashy FAs is not always the answer and quite often resorts in a team spending large amounts of money, killing their cap space, only to see the expensive FAs under perform or even sit out injured for a significant portion of the season. While the Seahawks did have a significant cap space at the beginning of FA, we also have MANY players on the team that are FA's themselves.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/seahawks-m ... --nfl.html

Many of the players listed were starters last season. If we do not sign them we would need to replace them with a player that needs to be starter ready by the beginning of the season. We certainly do not have the cap space for that. Just one "splashy" FA signing could completely burn up all excess cap space and put us at a disadvantage during signing of our draft picks and/or when considering possible trades.

While it is always nice to dream of a high dollar FA signing and the impact they might have for the team, the big picture needs to be looked at as well. FA envy seldom looks at the big picture.

All good points but does not change the FACT that several of those FAs would have made us better which is the object.

They only have like 15-16m of real cap space remaining, not including cuts. They don't have unlimited space to add outside free agents while keeping the pieces they have.

Clowney has got to be the priority. After Clowney, there's pretty much room for just depth signings and MAYBE an Ifedi extension if Britt is cut.

Signing outside free agents to appease you opens up other holes elsewhere. This isn't a simple "hurr durr add more players please boss" proposition here.

Please show link with the cap space remaining every thing See show a lot more. As to thee rest once again a reason why people don't post ridicule. . Could it be that I believe we need to do something big in FA to get to the next level? Nope has to be just to appease me. Could it be one of the Fa that signed I believe could have made the difference, nope cant be because you don't agree has to be just to appease me. It's okay to say in your opinion or something like that but to simply denigrate it because you don't like it is what is wrong with this forum.

 

[John63]

It's like you guys have never experienced the Seahawks in free agency before. Stop crying.

or we can contiue to have the covnersatoin which is what a forum is for. Also just becase the Hawks do it, dow nto mean it is the right thing to do. IF it were we woudl not have to go back to 2013 for a decent FA class.

I am not saying stop having a conversation about it, I am saying stop crying in your beers over it. The off-season has barely started.

The Hawks have done well in free agency over the years. Yes they have some misses, but every team does. What I do know, teams that win free agency usually do jack squat in the regular season.

No one is crying in their beers, we are stating our options and like every year since 2013 as of now we have done little to nothing expect loose players. that is a fact. When players were available that would have made us better. FYI again KC did very well in FA last year and won the SB. Also, FYI please provide a link showing those who do well in Fa do squat that year. I think you will find the good to great teams who do well in FA do great the following season, only those who were bad do squat the next year.. Example KC again, good in 2018, had a very good Fa wins the SB

 

[Maelstrom787]

While Clark was rated high as a 2019 FA, he was not considered "the best". Of the DE's that ended up being signed by other teams, (based on Walterfootball), Tre Flowers was ranked higher at #3, Clark was ranked as #4. Clowney was ranked #1 and Ansah was ranked #6. Both were picked up by Seattle and did not have the impact expected.

https://walterfootball.com/freeagents2019DE.php

Signing splashy FAs is not always the answer and quite often resorts in a team spending large amounts of money, killing their cap space, only to see the expensive FAs under perform or even sit out injured for a significant portion of the season. While the Seahawks did have a significant cap space at the beginning of FA, we also have MANY players on the team that are FA's themselves.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/seahawks-m ... --nfl.html

Many of the players listed were starters last season. If we do not sign them we would need to replace them with a player that needs to be starter ready by the beginning of the season. We certainly do not have the cap space for that. Just one "splashy" FA signing could completely burn up all excess cap space and put us at a disadvantage during signing of our draft picks and/or when considering possible trades.

While it is always nice to dream of a high dollar FA signing and the impact they might have for the team, the big picture needs to be looked at as well. FA envy seldom looks at the big picture.

All good points but does not change the FACT that several of those FAs would have made us better which is the object.

They only have like 15-16m of real cap space remaining, not including cuts. They don't have unlimited space to add outside free agents while keeping the pieces they have.

Clowney has got to be the priority. After Clowney, there's pretty much room for just depth signings and MAYBE an Ifedi extension if Britt is cut.

Signing outside free agents to appease you opens up other holes elsewhere. This isn't a simple "hurr durr add more players please boss" proposition here.

Please show link with the cap space remaining every thing See show a lot more. As to thee rest once again a reason why people don't post ridicule. . Could it be that I believe we need to do something big in FA to get to the next level? Nope has to be just to appease me. Could it be one of the Fa that signed I believe could have made the difference, nope cant be because you don't agree has to be just to appease me. It's okay to say in your opinion or something like that but to simply denigrate it because you don't like it is what is wrong with this forum.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/EvaninSEA/status/1239991331524501505[/tweet]

 

[Maelstrom787]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/gbellseattle/status/1240079629638963203[/tweet]

Finney the new center, cut Britt, use cap savings to sign Clowney?

 

[JayhawkMike]

Another year of FA BS. Let’s wait a few days, lose all our decent FAs and then pick up some washed up trash like Ziggy Ansah. Waiting on Clowney while the other decent DEs sign elsewhere is plain stupid. We lose him too and our pitiful pass rush will be the worst in the league if it isn’t already.

JS and PC never sign quality FAs. They are just smarter than every one else. SMFH and the holes get bigger and bigger.

 

[HawkStrong]

It's like you guys have never experienced the Seahawks in free agency before. Stop crying.

or we can contiue to have the covnersatoin which is what a forum is for. Also just becase the Hawks do it, dow nto mean it is the right thing to do. IF it were we woudl not have to go back to 2013 for a decent FA class.

I am not saying stop having a conversation about it, I am saying stop crying in your beers over it. The off-season has barely started.

The Hawks have done well in free agency over the years. Yes they have some misses, but every team does. What I do know, teams that win free agency usually do jack squat in the regular season.

No one is crying in their beers, we are stating our options and like every year since 2013 as of now we have done little to nothing expect loose players. that is a fact. When players were available that would have made us better. FYI again KC did very well in FA last year and won the SB. Also, FYI please provide a link showing those who do well in Fa do squat that year. I think you will find the good to great teams who do well in FA do great the following season, only those who were bad do squat the next year.. Example KC again, good in 2018, had a very good Fa wins the SB

Hindsight is 20/20, most of big free agents don't pan out. KCC had one big signing in FA last year. If Hawks do nothing from here on out you might have a point.

 

[King Dog]

It's a good thing we're really good in the draft

 

[jmahon316]

At this point with all things considered, if we lose Clowney in FA, this Seahawks FA is a BUST and I'll be forced to say "Boooooo" until the start of the season.

Edit: Sorry, I'm getting extremely upset at how it seems everyone is making splash moves except for the Seahawks, who do just enough to not lose comp picks or under-spend on "need" players. F%CK WHY AM I SO UPSET RIGHT NOW.

 

[Appyhawk]

It's a good thing we're really good in the draft

:lol: :lol: Good one. But c'mon man. We got DK last year. And with all these great FA being signed to fill holes that should mean some of the best players at those positions will be available when we pick, RIGHT? Please tell that's how it works...

Not happy with the ways are playing out so far, but I have to admit I've been wowed by the antics in acquisition by John and Pete a lot of times before. Can't wait to see what magic they've got up their sleeve for this year.