Seanhawk":3ag9vuzb said:pugs1":3ag9vuzb said:Throwdown":3ag9vuzb said:Didn't they trade up for Walter Jones?
Traded Rick Mirer to the Bears for the pick to snag Walter Jones!
Didn't we get 2 first round picks for Mirer?
halps80":3nljiknw said:He might be high on the list if you want to project forward. But lets be honest, he has been here for nearly 3 years and was nothing special for the 1.5 years (outside of the Beastquake).
Really? We traded for him in oct of '10, and he had a bit of a slow start that fall, but dude has been a beast since dec of that year. Numbers aside, He might have had a better '11 than '12, in terms of carrying the team when we really had no other offense to speak of.
Regarding the mirer trade, we got Chicago's number 1, and then we packaged it to trade up to number 6 on draft day for big Walt. Shawn springs was our 'earned' first rounder that year.
kearly":ywqt26sx said:I can't even imagine how it would feel if we cut/traded some guy we thought was a scrub like Kris Durham and he turned into a HoFer for a different team.
I don't remember the details, but wasn't Warren Moon involved in the trade for #80 Largent ? Any way, the key to OP's original question is that the final outcome is yet to be determined.Seafan":2ml5mz1o said:Largent for an 8th round pick was epic, particularly in those days when the Hawk scouting department couldn't find players past the 2nd round. Houston gave the Hawks a future HOF. Joey Galloway and Fredd Young trades netted 2 first rounders for each player.
HoustonHawk82":31r82x0r said:kearly":31r82x0r said:I can't even imagine how it would feel if we cut/traded some guy we thought was a scrub like Kris Durham and he turned into a HoFer for a different team.
You mean like Ahman Green?
Meeker":1w2qr8ta said:He might be high on the list if you want to project forward. But lets be honest, he has been here for nearly 3 years and was nothing special for the 1.5 years (outside of the Beastquake).
Seanhawk":3rbfw76l said:HoustonHawk82":3rbfw76l said:kearly":3rbfw76l said:I can't even imagine how it would feel if we cut/traded some guy we thought was a scrub like Kris Durham and he turned into a HoFer for a different team.
You mean like Ahman Green?
One, Ahman Green is not in the Hall of Fame. Two, his departure is essentially irrelevant because Alexander was equaling, and in most cases exceeding Green's production during the same time.
KitsapGuy":18rw90fy said:Steve Largent. :thirishdrinkers:
:th2thumbs:volsunghawk":3sfwhqde said:Meeker":3sfwhqde said:He might be high on the list if you want to project forward. But lets be honest, he has been here for nearly 3 years and was nothing special for the 1.5 years (outside of the Beastquake).
If you want to be completely honest, go back to when our O-line was still one of the worst in the league and watch how Lynch would turn a 4-yard loss into a 3-yard gain. His effort and his refusal to go down at first contact are what our entire team's identity was based on. He's the primary reason our team is no longer viewed as soft around the league.
Moon was still at the University of Washington (played in the '78 Rose Bowl) and didn't even play at Houston until '84.pmedic920":2nmg9i71 said:I don't remember the details, but wasn't Warren Moon involved in the trade for #80 Largent ? Any way, the key to OP's original question is that the final outcome is yet to be determined.Seafan":2nmg9i71 said:Largent for an 8th round pick was epic, particularly in those days when the Hawk scouting department couldn't find players past the 2nd round. Houston gave the Hawks a future HOF. Joey Galloway and Fredd Young trades netted 2 first rounders for each player.
volsunghawk":1cqi77ly said:Meeker":1cqi77ly said:He might be high on the list if you want to project forward. But lets be honest, he has been here for nearly 3 years and was nothing special for the 1.5 years (outside of the Beastquake).
If you want to be completely honest, go back to when our O-line was still one of the worst in the league and watch how Lynch would turn a 4-yard loss into a 3-yard gain. His effort and his refusal to go down at first contact are what our entire team's identity was based on. He's the primary reason our team is no longer viewed as soft around the league.
HoustonHawk82":32v4d0q8 said:kearly":32v4d0q8 said:I can't even imagine how it would feel if we cut/traded some guy we thought was a scrub like Kris Durham and he turned into a HoFer for a different team.
You mean like Ahman Green?
yes sir you are correct and I'm aware of those details. I just had some crazy memory in the back of my head. I did some research and found nothing like what I was thinking. Who knows where I got the idea. I've had many adult beverages since those days.BlueTalons":1yiiuzr4 said:Moon was still at the University of Washington (played in the '78 Rose Bowl) and didn't even play at Houston until '84.pmedic920":1yiiuzr4 said:I don't remember the details, but wasn't Warren Moon involved in the trade for #80 Largent ? Any way, the key to OP's original question is that the final outcome is yet to be determined.Seafan":1yiiuzr4 said:Largent for an 8th round pick was epic, particularly in those days when the Hawk scouting department couldn't find players past the 2nd round. Houston gave the Hawks a future HOF. Joey Galloway and Fredd Young trades netted 2 first rounders for each player.
HoustonHawk82":378i9z0o said:Seanhawk":378i9z0o said:HoustonHawk82":378i9z0o said:You mean like Ahman Green?
One, Ahman Green is not in the Hall of Fame. Two, his departure is essentially irrelevant because Alexander was equaling, and in most cases exceeding Green's production during the same time.
But, Green went to the Packers and proceeded to win the league rushing title the very next season. He may not have earned himself HOF status, but for the time he played he accomplished some great things.
I was speaking more to a player that left the Seahawks and kicked total heiney for his new team.
SeaTown81":379x3ely said:The Hasselbeck trade is even more impressive when you actually break the specifics of it down.
The Hawks and Packers swapped 1st round picks. Packers getting the 10th overall pick, and the Hawks #17. In addition the Hawks sent GB a 3rd rounder (#72 overall).
Here's how that particular trade worked out:
GB gets:
#10 overall pick: DE Jamal Reynolds
#72 overall pick: LB Torrance Marshall
SEA gets:
QB Matt Hasselbeck
#17 overall pick: OG Steve Hutchinson
We all know how Hass and Hutch worked out for the Hawks. But what about Reynolds and Marshall for the Packers?
Reynolds - 3 seasons. 18 games played. 0 games started. 16 tackles. 3 sacks.
Marshall - 4 seasons. 51 gamse played. 2 games started. 32 tackles. 1 sack.
Neither player went on to play for another team.