Malik McDowell

[Seahawkville]

We need PLAYERS not cap casualties.

 

[chris98251]

Sure glad nobody that is saying how terrible this guy is as a person and player made any mistakes or did anything dumb when they were 20 years old. You guys could almost walk on water.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

The age thing is an excuse, these are adults who should know better.

 

[chris98251]

The age thing is an excuse, these are adults who should know better.

So your the one that parts the Red Sea, I take it and was a perfect example of perfection in decision making when given Millions of Dollars at the age of 20 years old with no education in how to handle the popularity and that kind of money.

Age is an excuse, he was a smart ass kid.

He took a stupid risk and hurt himself.


We should probably lock him up and give him a lethal injection also since he is such a failure to humanity.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

The age thing is an excuse, these are adults who should know better.

Doesn't matter. Malik, like many young people was stupid and reckless...............now we need to figure out what to do with him.

I don't get fans making moral judgments about players. It's over, it is what it is, now we have to move forward, and it makes ZERO sense to cut him. In fact we actually lose cap space by cutting him.

So no matter what people think if Malik personally, he's here til 2020.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I don't want him cut. I want him to learn from it, grow up, and get on the field and dominate. I just fricken said PEOPLE CAN CHANGE. Then I get accused of thinking I can part the Red Sea. Typical, putting thoughts and words in someone's mouth, par for the course. Nobody is perfect, hopefully he steps it up and has a hell of a career. I'm excited to what he can do on the field.


and it's you're

 

[ApnaHawk]

He's a kid... jeez man. These guys are humans dude. Everyone makes mistakes. I hope it works out, he seems like an animal, but if not I hope the best for him and his health.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Yep, he's a kid, but he's also an adult. I suspect he's gonna' learn from it and tear it up in 2018. My god people take opinions way too serious. Hell yes he can learn from it. It's a message board, people have opinions. People have been on this guy's case all year, but I guess that's ok for some people :lol:

But you're right, I'm obviously being too hard on the guy. I get it.

 

[Seahawkville]

I think the worst part about it is as a fan, we waited through day one of the draft with nothing but a trade to show for it, then more trades the second day only to make this guy the first pick of our draft overall, and that accident happened, then his arrest.

It's a hard pill to swallow but think about the F.O. guys that made those decicions, they feel worse than we do.

Another thing that bugs the shit out of me is all the hush, hush secrecy. Just give a synopsis so we can either forget about it or talk about the possibilities.

 

[TwistedHusky]

Seahawkville nailed it.

We didn't have much to look forward to that draft. We squandered it on a DL that had a reputation for not always playing hard and for being a path of least resistance player. Shockingly, we are surprised when football does not appear to be a priority for him at all.

I am going a have a hard time giving the guy a chance. I admit it.

In one of the best drafts in YEARS for RB, we pick a freaking DL and not even a pass rushing specialist. Sure we got Carson, who might end up being good or at least serviceable. But roll back to the guys on the board when our first draft slot came up, and see if you would have picked Carson.

In one of the better drafts for secondary for DB, there were a number of safeties on the board that we could have picked - if the FO was worried about Thomas which according to his recent injuries at the time, they should have. They needed a rangy, fast, hard hitting FS and Budda Baker was just sitting there waiting to be a depth/injury replacement for Thomas and potentially helping us avoid issues if we lost ET for too long. Would have made the 'Is ET going or staying?' option a lot easier to deal with. But....we chose to avoid that and instead picked a DL that was again known for being a guy that took plays off.

I pointed this out when we got him.

And how did it shake out?

We had one of the worst run games I have ever seen as a Seahawk fan (going back to mid 80s) and we have this nightmare issue with ET popping up and no reasonable replacement.

Oh but we have this rookie DL that hasn't done crap, and might not even care that much about football. Again, we are stuck with him but it is going to be hard for me to give him much of a chance. My best case with this guy is he turns into a crappier Reed, but our obsession with DL that stop the run but cannot provide a pass rush needs to end.

 

[mikeak]

I think the worst part about it is as a fan, we waited through day one of the draft with nothing but a trade to show for it, then more trades the second day only to make this guy the first pick of our draft overall, and that accident happened, then his arrest.

It's a hard pill to swallow but think about the F.O. guys that made those decicions, they feel worse than we do.

Another thing that bugs the shit out of me is all the hush, hush secrecy. Just give a synopsis so we can either forget about it or talk about the possibilities.

The FO should feel worse. They drafted a guy that had questionable motivation for the game

 

[Trrrroy]

It was a bummer accident that may have ruined a young guy's career before it ever started. Why does anybody need to be blamed? Football fans, man...

 

[SoulfishHawk]

But apparently, if you criticize a guy, that means you think you're perfect :roll:

 

[Seymour]

It was a bummer accident that may have ruined a young guy's career before it ever started. Why does anybody need to be blamed? Football fans, man...

Assigning fault / error / blame is how your learn from yours or others mistakes and avoid them in the future. Blowing it off as "just bad luck"...."youth", ect. is a great formula for those destined to repeat the problems and learn nothing.

We don't even know if he was in an ATV accident. A local reporter looked up all local hospital emergencies at the reported time of accident at his location, and there was not even a record of him being admitted to a hospital, no record of any accident, and no record of an ambulance called. All we have is his word, and no confirmation as to what even happened. Who know's what to believe. Beyond that, the guy has shown us 1 recent video of his arrest where all he wanted to do is call the cops names, mouth off, and show his lack of respect for authority.

How can anyone not see bust written all over his face at this point is beyond me, that is all I've seen from him....and seeing is believing.

 

[Seymour]

But apparently, if you criticize a guy, that means you think you're perfect :roll:

Ya, just ignore that BS. Using that standard, I suppose that if you ever had a car accident, you cannot teach your own kids how to drive defensively and avoid issues since you are no better. You can never try to help someone or identify a problem even though you have the answer because you have failed at some point yourself. That is about the most ridiculous scarecrow argument I've heard here in a long time. Most people would call that a huge rationalization.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Yeah, we all look at it differently. Just my own opinion, which means nothing, but the "he's just a kid" excuse gets used way too much. Fingers crossed he shocks everyone and is on the field contributing big time in 2018. That stuff he said to those officers was pretty weak to say the least. Calling them P**** a** Crackers? Really?

 

[TwistedHusky]

We don't even know that a healthy version of him would have made much difference.

Certainly not as much difference as Sheldon Richardson made, though we lost draft picks for that one, but impact on the field would have likely been less not more.

Not sure what we are lamenting in not getting anything from him, because without him being lost I don't think we would have gotten Richardson.

When McDowell comes back, if he comes back, I will be shocked if he makes much impact. Rookies generally don't and guys that are a year away from any football generally take time to come back to speed/power anyway. That is a double whammy that pretty much translates into 'Don't expect much even if you get him back' - at least for the first year.

 

[Trrrroy]

It was a bummer accident that may have ruined a young guy's career before it ever started. Why does anybody need to be blamed? Football fans, man...

Assigning fault / error / blame is how your learn from yours or others mistakes and avoid them in the future. Blowing it off as "just bad luck"...."youth", ect. is a great formula for those destined to repeat the problems and learn nothing.

Are you arguing that we need to blame him for him to learn? That is silly. None of us know this kid or where his heart is, or even yhe details about what happened. We're all just a bunch of football fans that are upset he may not play a down in the NFL. Berating him online for that is ridiculous. Now if his injury was a drunk driving accident and he was remorseless that's one thing. But all the information we have says it was a severe ATV accident, which can happen to any young kid that likes to have fun. You point out that there isn't much evidence to support that, but there is even less evidence to support that it was anything else.

Besides, where would a reporter get information on who was admitted to a hospital, or what people were getting brought in with? That is a massive HIPPA violation.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Well, he called a couple cops p***** a** Crackers. Weak sauce, and yes it was recorded and played on the radio many times.

 

[jammerhawk]

There are an awful lot of quick judgments about the kid's character etc., etc., etc.. He's a bust???

OK, whatever, feel free to pass judgment when we havene't seen the kid play a single down of pro ball.

For sure he's been a disappointment but only b/c he doubled down on the ATV accident (which was disapponting) with a stupid night of drunken foolishness.

I want to see if he actually can play before I judge whether he's a bust. So far all I see is he isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.