Pick #69, Tyler Lockett, WR/KR/Gunner, KSU

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Hawknballs":3a3vdxpk said:
Yxes1122":3a3vdxpk said:
Richardson is not elusive and I think this pick shows we are giving up on him as a deep threat.

uh you think pete and john drafted a guy and are giving up on him already after he was limited reps in camp thanks to harvin being there, showed some potential when he did play, and then got hurt? I doubt it.

More like we had a chance to get the best return man in the nation who can also play receiver as a solid 3 or 4. In the third round, for giving away a few late picks.

For once the analysts are actually praising the seahawks for making a pick.

Not giving up on Richardson, giving up on him as a deep threat. Not once did Richardson flash deep ball potential this season. I think he is a very good short area receiver, but I do not see him as a deep threat. How many times did they send Richardson deep and how many times did he win?

In 2013, we lived on the deep ball, in 2014, we struggled. I think Lockett can take over that role. Spending 3 picks to draft a return man would be pretty ridiculous IMO.
 

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Has already said the word compete 6 times in the three minutes he's been on the phone. I approve.
 

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Mike 4G":1b5y4q17 said:
I would love to have seen at least one OL pick at this point.

At this point, had we not moved up and snagged Lockett, we'd have only taken one player, and one that filled a definite need. DE and WR were definite needs, and good OL guys can be found much deeper in the draft, an area where we have a bunch more picks. This was a good pick here for us.
 

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Seahawk Sailor":3tr9e8bk said:
For all those saying he's Tate 2.0, here's something Tate didn't do for us:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JacsonBevens/status/594320984787652608[/tweet]

Only problem is that he'll be wasted in Bevell's system, with its hyper-simplistic route trees.
 

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I would have rather had the #95+#112 over #69/Lockett, but who am I. Then I find out there's also a #167#181. :?
 

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Now that Tyler is here, Ricardo's days are numbered. Tyler does everything Ricardo provides (WR, Gunner) and more (returns). Lockett is the upgrade for Lockette.
 

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I don't see this guy beating anyone with speed in college so I think his speed is overrated and won't translate well to the NFL level, all up to him to get stronger and faster if he wants to make it, I believe in PC to be able to coach it.
 

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WR-Tyler Lockett, Kansas St. 5-10/182, Many people are perhaps in the dark about Lockett’s abilities as both a WR and a kick return specialist. Many say, he’s way too small, might not get off press coverage, a slot WR only and most completely ignore what he has done in his career at Kansas State as a WR. He really is one of the very top few in several National WR stats. He’s not just one of the best returners in this draft, he has shown a lot of game breaking plays as a WR as well. He may be smaller in stature than many want, but he is young, still growing and has a burning desire to be great, excellent work habits, outstanding character and he’s a team leader, sound familiar? A good conditioning program with weight training, a pro diet and practice against the LOB should buff him up some.

Some analysts have said that Lockett plays both inside and out and can actually run himself open with his agility and quick cut, start/stop abilities out of his breaks so he creates his own separation. Some people without justification have labeled him as a slot only guy just based on his size, but I think that is not the case because If Golden Tate and/or Harvin (and historically numerous other “smaller guys") could play outside, Lockett can too. IMO-Lockett is a real playmaker at BOTH returner and at WR. He might get knocked on his can occasionally, but his potential WR/KR contributions will far outweigh that concern, (he’s almost a Harvin 2.0, with brains, just need to keep him healthy.)

2014 - RECEIVING:
---106 receptions for 1515 yds, 14.29/avg, 11-TD's, 8.2/avg receptions per game,
116.5/avg receiving yards per game. (#4 in FBS with 106 receptions, #3 in FBS with 1515 yds.)

---#2 in FBS in long pass receptions! 65@10+yds, 21@20+yds, 9@30+yds, 4@40+yds, 3@50+yds, 1@60+ yds & 1@70+yds. (obviously he’s not just a deep threat, but makes catches all over the field)
Career #'s receiving: 249 receptions - 3710-yds. (14.9-yds avg.), 29-TD’s. 14 games @ 100+ yds.
& 3 games @ 200+ yds.

2014 - ALL PURPOSE YARDS..
---#3 in FBS in all purpose yds. (#1 as a WR, behind only RB's Gordon & Coleman - with huge RB #’s.)
17-yds rushing, 1515-yds receiving, 402-yds punt returns, 362-yds KO returns,
148-total plays for 2296-yds, 15.5-yds per play avg & 176.6 all purpose yds per game avg.
---NOTE: 15.5/yds PER PLAY avg, (that’s every time he touches the ball), 177-yds/ per game avg.
http://www.cfbstats.com/2014/player/327 ... index.html
http://www.cfbstats.com/2014/leader/nat ... ort01.html

2014 - KICKOFF RETURNS:
18 KO returns for 362 yds, 20.11/avg., 0-TD's, --- 1.4 returns/27.8 yds avg. per game.
(NOTE: Lockett shared some of his kickoff return duties with a DB in 2014.)

ALL PURPOSE CAREER #'s: ( includes a total of 6,586 career yards & 35 career TD’s.)

RECEIVING: 249/3710/29-TD’s - 14.9-yds per catch avg.
---2011-2014: (106/1515/11-TD's, 81/1262/11-TD's, 44/692/4-TD's, 18/246/3-TD's)
RUSHING: 22/192/0-TD’s - 8.72-yd per rush avg.
---2011-2014: (3/17/0-TD's, 2/10/0-TD;s, 7/55/0-TD's, 10/110/0-TD's)
PUNT RETURNS: 32/488/2-TD’s - 15.25-yds per punt return avg.
---2011-2014: (21/402/2-TD's, 2/4/0-TD's, 3/44/0-TD's, 6/38/0-TD's)
KO RETURNS: 77/2196/4-TD’s - 28.52-yds per KO return avg.
---2011-2014: (18/362/0-TD's, 22/583/0-TD's, 21/688/2-TD's, 16/563/2-TD's)

2015 COMBINE:
4.40/40, 1.56/10-yd split, 35.5"/vertical, 121"/broad jump, 6.89/3-cone, 4.07/20-yd
shuttle, 11.14/60-yd shuttle. All this = very agile, explosive & very quick, even if undersized.
 

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TDOTSEAHAWK":1lfgkza0 said:
I don't understand all the hate for short WRs - short WRs basically destroyed our CBs in the Super Bowl. They were complimented by a game changing TE, which we have now, and an veteran WR with a little bit of size - which we have.

Point being, now that we have Graham, the need for another lumbering big bodied WR is much less - especially considering big WRs don't return balls or really play special teams at all so they'd be in no man's land on our team.
You are totally right that we got sliced and diced by short receivers, and you are right that the addition of Graham lessens the "need" for a big wr BUT being able to send a tall receiver on both sides would be an awesome advantage for us to have.

Nothing wrong with people still wanting a tall WR but I think Pete and John have made it clear by now that being tall is absolutely not a requirement.
 

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hawkfan68":24b3prch said:
Now that Tyler is here, Ricardo's days are numbered. Tyler does everything Ricardo provides (WR, Gunner) and more (returns). Lockett is the upgrade for Lockette.


Not yet isn't lane the other gunner, with the namsty break?
 
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Forwarding a memo to Darrell Bevell:
I repeat...do not pass a slant to this guy on 4th and 1.
 

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jake206":lqsnz8ux said:
Forwarding a memo to Darrell Bevell:
I repeat...do not pass a slant to this guy on 4th and 1.

Pass it to Jimmy instead? :sarcasm_on: :sarcasm_on: :sarcasm_on:

and ONE MORE FOR GOOD MEASSURE

:sarcasm_on:
 

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Exittium":1446f8ec said:
hawkfan68":1446f8ec said:
Now that Tyler is here, Ricardo's days are numbered. Tyler does everything Ricardo provides (WR, Gunner) and more (returns). Lockett is the upgrade for Lockette.


Not yet isn't lane the other gunner, with the namsty break?

Ya...Lane was the other gunner. Lockette became the gunner when Lane got hurt. Doesn't sound like Lane will be ready before the season starts though.
 

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hawkfan68":1f4rzzz0 said:
Exittium":1f4rzzz0 said:
hawkfan68":1f4rzzz0 said:
Now that Tyler is here, Ricardo's days are numbered. Tyler does everything Ricardo provides (WR, Gunner) and more (returns). Lockett is the upgrade for Lockette.


Not yet isn't lane the other gunner, with the namsty break?

Ya...Lane was the other gunner. Lockette became the gunner when Lane got hurt. Doesn't sound like Lane will be ready before the season starts though.


I think this kid will shine, and he's helping the team with Lane's absence as a gunner, as well WR with Richardson getting a new knee AND pr/kr thats a lot on his plate but, we shall see! Season needs to start as of after the sb ..
 

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bjornanderson21":3sgra1jq said:
TDOTSEAHAWK":3sgra1jq said:
I don't understand all the hate for short WRs - short WRs basically destroyed our CBs in the Super Bowl. They were complimented by a game changing TE, which we have now, and an veteran WR with a little bit of size - which we have.

Point being, now that we have Graham, the need for another lumbering big bodied WR is much less - especially considering big WRs don't return balls or really play special teams at all so they'd be in no man's land on our team.
You are totally right that we got sliced and diced by short receivers, and you are right that the addition of Graham lessens the "need" for a big wr BUT being able to send a tall receiver on both sides would be an awesome advantage for us to have.

Nothing wrong with people still wanting a tall WR but I think Pete and John have made it clear by now that being tall is absolutely not a requirement.

Chris Matthews and Douglas McNeil who are tall for WR, Kevin Norwood on the 6-2 size, I say we have a decent amount of tall guys, plus Graham will be a WR/TE combo for us. We needed a guy that could get separation and Tyler looks like that dude, look at his crazy jukes, someone's mashing juke buttons.
 

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crosfam":1oei9nhm said:
traded picks, because no way 11-12 new guys make this team. But do we need a first class PR/KR and gunner? Yes we do. Is Richardson out at least six games next year - I think yes.

I was going to say the same thing. 11 players are not going to make this team.
If there is a player you want, put a package together and get him.

6 picks left, will probably address Db and o line next.
It wouldn't surprise me if we trade up again.

With all that said, every year it seems, they do give up quite a bit to get who they want.
I guess they want to make sure they get their man.
 

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I don't get why people are comparing him to Tate. The only thing they have in common is that they were both around the same size, and both were good return men.

Lockett is way more polished as a route runner than Golden Tate coming out of college. Tate was a very sloppy route runner in comparison to Lockett. Tate also was much better at hi pointing the ball than Lockett. Tate was a guy who played like he was a bigger receiver, I don't see Lockett making those tough jump ball catches in the NFL like Tate did. Tate also was much better after the catch in college, and in the NFL.

Simply put, Tate was much more physical than Lockett ever was or will be. He was better at going up for jump balls, and he was also more aggressive when it came to getting YAC. Lockett relies on textbook route running, and very quick transitions to get the ball.

I like Lockett as a slot receiver, and return man -- but I just don't think he is what the Seahawks need at wide receiver right now. We need more red-zone threats, and bigger wideouts that can help Wilson out when he gets into trouble. I just don't see Lockett as being that guy.
 

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