West TX Hawk":2zovwvet said:
Thepeelsessions":2zovwvet said:
The Penny hate here has gotten real. For everyone saying "I don't hate Penny, I hate the pick", don't kid yourselves. The majority of you have been singing that song since the middle of TC. You're Penny haters. You all know who you are. Just admit it.
Here's my take. Carson is good. There's no denying that. But he's definitely not elite. He's a tough, between the tackles grinder. He doesn't have the speed to turn on the jets and outrun quicker defenders. His biggest strength is his strength. But it's probably his biggest weakness. Both times he's carried the ball 23+ times, he's gotten hurt which has caused him to miss time. I'm not sold on Carson as being a workhorse over the long haul.
I remember after Davis had his career game in Arizona, a few on here were actually saying he should start over Carson. I'm sorry, but absolutely not. There should be no reason why Mike Davis and his 3.5 career YPC should even be playing in front of Penny. He doesn't have a future here. Davis has been in the league long enough. We all know what he is.
It's been mentioned a few times over the last couple days, but again, Melvin Gordon was DISGUSTING his rookie year. 3.5 average on 184 carries. No touchdowns (rushing or receiving). He couldn't break tackles. He showed no vision or patience behind the LOS. That was the guy who was a top 12 (?) pick who SD fans had written off.
Penny will be just fine. It's a shame so many on this board are writing him off this early.
So you can definitively claim Carson is “definitely not elite” and not a “workhorse” just 11 games into his career, who just turned 24 but yet it’s way too early to judge Penny after 8 games?
And Penny and his 3.5 career avg should start over Davis and his 4.3 this year? But yet you criticized Davis for his 3.5 career? Davis is just 25 but he doesn’t have any potential and is incapable of improvement but the world is Penny’s to be had??
A month ago Peel you said Penny “definitely has a much higher ceiling than Carson.” Do you still objectively believe that based on their play? Or are those combine #s of Penny just too attractive?
Look at Carson's injury history! It goes back to high school! When has he ever been able to hold up under high volume? Please tell me. I get it. Carson is the first RB with success this team has had since Marshawn (Rawls doesn't count, he had his success when Marshawn was still here), but this is also the best this offensive line has been in forever. How can you count on a guy to be this workhorse if he's not available?
Before the Arizona game, Davis had 3 carries for 3 yards. When he finally got a shot to carry the load, he put up big numbers against literally the weakest run defense in the league. Arizona couldn't and still can't stop the run. Penny looked good against Arizona with his limited touches. The point is Mike Davis had a career day against THE WORST run defense in the league. Since then, he's looked pretty mediocre in spot duty.
And yes, I still believe Penny has a higher ceiling. On the field, Carson hasn't shown anything outside of being an early down grinder. Yeah, it was cool seeing him hurdle the defender, showing off his agility, but do you honestly see him running away from the defense, getting to the second level and taking a long run to the house?
Again, WHEN HEALTHY, I view Carson as a good early down back. I think Penny has the ability to be much more than a good early down back.