Ray Rice allegedly knocks fiancee out after she spits on him

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Chapow":o6tqptkm said:
Pretty sure you're just trolling, but...
I'm not, actually.

Chapow":o6tqptkm said:
So your saying that if someone says something that is really hurtful, that it's OK to spit on them?
No, I'm not saying it's OK. Being completely understandable, if not entirely forgivable depending on the circumstances is certainly a possibility, though. Besides, who the hell hits a significant other for spitting on them? I mean, really. Talk about escalating.
 

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I would like to nominate Chapow as the smartest man in the world. I really hope you beating women for something as simple as spitting on you works out. Really go ahead and try it if it happens too you. go ahead and tell the police hey man she spit on me that's why I cracked her with a right hook and knocked her out.

I don't know how many people here are actually married. If your fiancé spit on on you and abusing her is even close to a option, then you are insane, I could understand if a hooker spit on him then it would be like wtf. This is suppose to be someone he loves and cares about that is a WOMAN.
 

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cockeyhawk":2n7q8lel said:
I would like to nominate Chapow as the smartest man in the world. I really hope you beating women for something as simple as spitting on you works out. Really go ahead and try it if it happens too you. go ahead and tell the police hey man she spit on me that's why I cracked her with a right hook and knocked her out.

I don't know how many people here are actually married. If your fiancé spit on on you and abusing her is even close to a option, then you are insane, I could understand if a hooker spit on him then it would be like wtf. This is suppose to be someone he loves and cares about that is a WOMAN.

Well, unlike you, I've never had a girlfriend or wife spit in my face. I've also never, hit, slapped, shaken, beaten, etc. a woman because 1) I think it's wrong and 2) I love my wife very much and could never do anything to hurt her. You seem to have reading comprehension issues so I'm going to try to help you out here. This is my first post in this thread:

Chapow":2n7q8lel said:
It'd be really, really hard to not punch someone that just spit in your face. I'm not saying it's OK because it's not, but damn, you probably shouldn't be spitting in someones face if you don't want to get knocked out.

Notice the part where I said what he did was not OK.

Look, you wouldn't hit a woman, I wouldn't hit a woman, but the unfortunate reality is that there are men that would hit a woman. Especially if that woman spit in their face. That is why I said that you probably shouldn't spit in someones face if you don't want to get knocked out. Not because it's OK, but because even though it's wrong it very well might happen.

Do you understand now?
 

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RolandDeschain":3sypg0x0 said:
Chapow":3sypg0x0 said:
Pretty sure you're just trolling, but...
I'm not, actually.

Chapow":3sypg0x0 said:
So your saying that if someone says something that is really hurtful, that it's OK to spit on them?
No, I'm not saying it's OK. Being completely understandable, if not entirely forgivable depending on the circumstances is certainly a possibility, though. Besides, who the hell hits a significant other for spitting on them? I mean, really. Talk about escalating.

OK fine, you're right. In your outlandish scenario where she tells him that she's dying of cancer and his reaction is to tell her that he's been banging her sister and is leaving her now, I'm sure many people would find it understandable if she spit in his face.

I can come up with outlandish scenarios too. What if he walked in on her brutally beating the crap out of his mom? I bet many people would find it understandable if his initial reaction was to punch her in the face. I'm sure most people would say that he should have just restrained her, but would probably find punching her understandable given the situation.

Neither of those scenarios have anything to do with this incident though.

I don't know who the hell hits his significant other for spitting on them, probably someone with anger and self control issues.

Look, spitting in your significant others face in the middle of a heated argument is wrong and stupid and escalates the situation.

Punching your significant other in the face for spitting in your face is wrong, stupid, and much worse than the spitting.

They both sound like idiots that need some counseling.
 

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Find myself agreeing with Chapow's take here. Hitting a woman is obviously the most awful act committed in all of this, unforgivable whether you were spat on or not.

That said, it's perfectly fair to also say the chick was an idiot for spitting on him. Not as in "she deserved to get punched" at all. Just as in, why would you do that and escalate a situation like that.
 

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RolandDeschain":r72hcnv4 said:
Supposedly the cops now have casino floor footage of him knocking her out. Lol. He's in big trouble.
Yep, he is screwed. Too bad he doesn't play for SF, where he could get on the Aldon Smith plan, aka the FREE PASS!
 

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The sexism in this thread is sickening. Women can be far more dangerous than any of you seem to be giving them credit. I know plenty of women trained well enough in combat that if you don't hit them while defending yourself within seconds you would be dead. Yes, we as a gender are stronger than they are, but they are not some meek helpless little women like some of you seem to think.

Edited to add, because I know this forum so well: I am not intimating that he was defending himself over being spit upon, but some of you have made blanket statements that are straight from the dark ages.
 

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Chapow":1syym7zg said:
RolandDeschain":1syym7zg said:
Chapow":1syym7zg said:
Pretty sure you're just trolling, but...
I'm not, actually.

Chapow":1syym7zg said:
So your saying that if someone says something that is really hurtful, that it's OK to spit on them?
No, I'm not saying it's OK. Being completely understandable, if not entirely forgivable depending on the circumstances is certainly a possibility, though. Besides, who the hell hits a significant other for spitting on them? I mean, really. Talk about escalating.

OK fine, you're right. In your outlandish scenario where she tells him that she's dying of cancer and his reaction is to tell her that he's been banging her sister and is leaving her now, I'm sure many people would find it understandable if she spit in his face.

I can come up with outlandish scenarios too. What if he walked in on her brutally beating the crap out of his mom? I bet many people would find it understandable if his initial reaction was to punch her in the face. I'm sure most people would say that he should have just restrained her, but would probably find punching her understandable given the situation.

Neither of those scenarios have anything to do with this incident though.

I don't know who the hell hits his significant other for spitting on them, probably someone with anger and self control issues.

Look, spitting in your significant others face in the middle of a heated argument is wrong and stupid and escalates the situation.

Punching your significant other in the face for spitting in your face is wrong, stupid, and much worse than the spitting.

They both sound like idiots that need some counseling.

Sounds like she already got her counseling in the elevator. I get the feeling she won't be spitting in guy's faces any time soon.

Hey what do you tell a woman with two black eye's?


Nothing she hasn't already been told twice before.

:D :D :D
 

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BASF":2c0rjvf8 said:
The sexism in this thread is sickening. Women can be far more dangerous than any of you seem to be giving them credit. I know plenty of women trained well enough in combat that if you don't hit them while defending yourself within seconds you would be dead. Yes, we as a gender are stronger than they are, but they are not some meek helpless little women like some of you seem to think.

Edited to add, because I know this forum so well: I am not intimating that he was defending himself over being spit upon, but some of you have made blanket statements that are straight from the dark ages.

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My wife and I (almost) never argue. We don't even raise our voices to each other. But over the past 8 years, she has broken my left hand twice, my right forearm, my left clavicle and she's broken ribs and fingers as well.

Last year alone she (badly) bruised my ribs, ruptured my eardrum and landed a kick to my neck that resulted in severe, permanent damage that resulted in surgery (fusion). It's still &*&^ed.

I typically walk around bruised, battered and limping. All of our friends, neighbors, clients and even the cops are aware of this (still nobody helps me). But no, she wouldn't dream of spitting on me or anyone else (not named Ray Rice).
 

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She needs to find a new sparing partner, sounds like she's beaten you to a pulp! 8)
 

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Sports Hernia":c6mkzswe said:
She needs to find a new sparing partner, sounds like she's beaten you to a pulp! 8)

It's actually a very real problem. At this very moment, I am on an ice bag (shoulder) and Percocet (neck).
 

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I would find it hard not to punch anyone who spat in my face in all honesty.
 

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HawkWow":391y4lm2 said:
My wife and I (almost) never argue. We don't even raise our voices to each other. But over the past 8 years, she has broken my left hand twice, my right forearm, my left clavicle and she's broken ribs and fingers as well.

Last year alone she (badly) bruised my ribs, ruptured my eardrum and landed a kick to my neck that resulted in severe, permanent damage that resulted in surgery (fusion). It's still &*&^ed.

I typically walk around bruised, battered and limping. All of our friends, neighbors, clients and even the cops are aware of this (still nobody helps me). But no, she wouldn't dream of spitting on me or anyone else (not named Ray Rice).

Do NOT ever spit on that woman. You will resemble a mangled, hang glider victim
 

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I'd consider such a mangling an upgrade, bro. lol. She has a month long gig in Japan starting Monday. I'm sending her alone so I can recover (Seriously).

Very proud of her, actually. She's got more deals in the works than Richard Sherman but stays as grounded as Russell Wilson. Even still, as soon as she hits it big... I'm suing her ass off. ; )
 

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HawkWow":3eoqvxk2 said:
I'd consider such a mangling an upgrade, bro. lol. She has a month long gig in Japan starting Monday. I'm sending her alone so I can recover (Seriously).

Very proud of her, actually. She's got more deals in the works than Richard Sherman but stays as grounded as Russell Wilson. Even still, as soon as she hits it big... I'm suing her ass off. ; )


By chance is that her in in your avatar? .

Oh and did she make you choose that pack? :D
 

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HawkWow":qn2uottg said:
My wife and I (almost) never argue. We don't even raise our voices to each other. But over the past 8 years, she has broken my left hand twice, my right forearm, my left clavicle and she's broken ribs and fingers as well.

Last year alone she (badly) bruised my ribs, ruptured my eardrum and landed a kick to my neck that resulted in severe, permanent damage that resulted in surgery (fusion). It's still &*&^ed.

I typically walk around bruised, battered and limping. All of our friends, neighbors, clients and even the cops are aware of this (still nobody helps me). But no, she wouldn't dream of spitting on me or anyone else (not named Ray Rice).

My wife and I have been together for 31 years and she has mellowed but early on she was extremely aggressive.

We met on a blind date in New York when I was in the navy. She is about 4'11" and 100lbs dripping wet. Oh yeah and a Harlem raised Puerto Rican. Feisty as all get out and based on everything she was taught growing up in Harlem, She figured she should be able to beat this white guys ass when needed and apparently she felt I needed it often. She has attacked me on many occasions even one time while driving down the freeway.

I never hit her or retaliated I would just hold her down and try and show her if I wanted to I could hurt her. It went on for years until we got jumped by two guys in our parking lot and with all the pent up frustration I took advantage of showing her what I was capable of. The two guys left in an ambulance.

Now let me expand because I am not an internet tough guy. It did happen and the result was amazing. My wife never attempted to physically attack me again. However, there was one other side affect. After the altercation I thought I was the baddest mofo on the planet and as luck would have it I found my way into another scrap. This time pretty much provoked by me as I felt invincible. Well guess what, I apparently wasn't because this guy proceeded to woop my ass every way from Sunday.

The silver lining. I came home bloodied and bruised and my wife alarmed asked what happened. I told her I got in a fight to which her eye's bulged and she said How many where there? LOL, I said just one to which she said, How big was he? Again I chuckled and told her about my size.

I still get a chuckle out of the whole thing because of the night and day difference in her opinion of my ability to handle myself.

Sorry for dragging this out. I still get a chuckle out of telling the story.
 

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RichNhansom":2fnoa2x8 said:
HawkWow":2fnoa2x8 said:
My wife and I (almost) never argue. We don't even raise our voices to each other. But over the past 8 years, she has broken my left hand twice, my right forearm, my left clavicle and she's broken ribs and fingers as well.

Last year alone she (badly) bruised my ribs, ruptured my eardrum and landed a kick to my neck that resulted in severe, permanent damage that resulted in surgery (fusion). It's still &*&^ed.

I typically walk around bruised, battered and limping. All of our friends, neighbors, clients and even the cops are aware of this (still nobody helps me). But no, she wouldn't dream of spitting on me or anyone else (not named Ray Rice).

My wife and I have been together for 31 years and she has mellowed but early on she was extremely aggressive.

We met on a blind date in New York when I was in the navy. She is about 4'11" and 100lbs dripping wet. Oh yeah and a Harlem raised Puerto Rican. Feisty as all get out and based on everything she was taught growing up in Harlem, She figured she should be able to beat this white guys ass when needed and apparently she felt I needed it often. She has attacked me on many occasions even one time while driving down the freeway.

I never hit her or retaliated I would just hold her down and try and show her if I wanted to I could hurt her. It went on for years until we got jumped by two guys in our parking lot and with all the pent up frustration I took advantage of showing her what I was capable of. The two guys left in an ambulance.

Now let me expand because I am not an internet tough guy. It did happen and the result was amazing. My wife never attempted to physically attack me again. However, there was one other side affect. After the altercation I thought I was the baddest mofo on the planet and as luck would have it I found my way into another scrap. This time pretty much provoked by me as I felt invincible. Well guess what, I apparently wasn't because this guy proceeded to woop my ass every way from Sunday.

The silver lining. I came home bloodied and bruised and my wife alarmed asked what happened. I told her I got in a fight to which her eye's bulged and she said How many where there? LOL, I said just one to which she said, How big was he? Again I chuckled and told her about my size.

I still get a chuckle out of the whole thing because of the night and day difference in her opinion of my ability to handle myself.

Sorry for dragging this out. I still get a chuckle out of telling the story.

No need to apologize bro.. awesome story. Something very sexy about the NY Boricans (am I saying that right?) and I mean that with total respect to you and your Mrs. I love the accent and the fire. 31 years? You obviously found the best of the best.

My wife is a Honolulu girl (yep, that's her in the avatar). She is actually very passive and I think she is also one of the world's most beautiful women. But get her in the ring and she is menacing. She comes from a family of martial artists and had already been training for like 14 years when we met. I was into a discipline called Lima Lama and she wanted to add some of our stuff to her routine. Fell in love, got married and I've trained her now for 8 years.
 
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