(Rumor) Hawks interested in trading for Sheldon Richardson

[kidhawk]

Also, I believe trades do something weird. I think the signing bonus stays with the team that gave it. They don't go with the player in terms of a cap hit. I'm sure there's somebody here more knowledgeable than me who can talk to that though.

This is true. Monies paid stay with the team who paid those monies, so the team trading a player may have dead cap money from that. It just depends on where they are in terms of their contract and how they structured the bonus. The new team takes the cap hit for the current contract that is left to be paid. of course the new team can work on a new contract with the player and void the old contract which means they could pay that new player the same amount in year 1 but make much of that a signing bonus and spread it out over the length of the new contract, thus giving the player the same amount of money yet lowering his cap hit to the new team.

 

[Seafan]

No draft picks. Trade Kearse, Lane and Lacy. Make it happen.

 

[XxXdragonXxX]

The Jets are tanking for the top QB, they dont want 1 year rental players.

 

[Pandion Haliaetus]

I think it's doable.

2018 3rd Round Pick, 2019 5th round pick for Sheldon Richardson.

Jets get future picks and a salary dump as they rebuild thier team.

Then trade Kearse, Luke Willson, Lane, and Quinton Jefferson (2017 cap savings of about $7.7m ) to TB for 2018 4th Round Pick and 2019 6th round pick.

Seahawks are charged with a bunch of dead cap for 2018 (about $4m ) but not totally cap hindering. Seahawks relieve some of thier logjams at certain spots and allow some intriguing players a more legitimate chance to compete for a roster spot.

Williams, Lawler, Moore, Grayson, and McEvoy at WR for 1 or 2 spots if Baldwin, Lockett, Darboh, and perhaps Richardson are locks.

Swoopes, Lucas, and perhaps McEvoy at TE. Really like Swoopes, the poise he has shown thus far, and he perhaps can serve as the emergency QB. Vannett has the ability to seal an edge. Like him as #2 than Willson even though Luke is a great character.

With Brock on board, I'm less worried about NCB without Lane.

TB could use some depth at WR, TE, especially CB and Jefferson is more a flyer on a young, developmental pass-rush DT (which they also lack) that would solidify their team as a contender and they have the space to take on those contracts only sacrificing a pair of draft picks but gaining loads of Championship experience in the process.

Seahawks add Sheldon Richardson but only lose draft position although Richardson is a guarantee to net back a 3rd Round comp in 2019. So that lost draft position eventually evens out.

D-Line could run with an 8-man team of:

Bennett, Avril, Clark, and Marsh at DE.

Richardson, Rubin, Reed, and Jones at DT.

With the talent to be the best D-Line in the NFL hands down.

 

[Hendo66]

Well hell Pard, lets do this then!

 

[massari]

I think it's doable.

2018 3rd Round Pick, 2019 5th round pick for Sheldon Richardson.

Jets get future picks and a salary dump as they rebuild thier team.

Then trade Kearse, Luke Willson, Lane, and Quinton Jefferson (2017 cap savings of about $7.7m ) to TB for 2018 4th Round Pick and 2019 6th round pick.

Would ratther keep Willson and Jefferson and just trade Lane to free up the $4M since they have Brock now. Not sure if Kearse has any trade value, so just cut him and Wilhoite to open up another $3.2M. Hopefully $7.2M would be enough to fit Richardson.

 

[gowazzu02]

LOL at this thread. Why in the world would the Jets want Kearse, Double L, Jefferson, Kasen Williams etc.

 

[therealjohncarlson]

LOL at this thread. Why in the world would the Jets want Kearse, Double L, Jefferson, Kasen Williams etc.

It's always the same with these kind of trade thread. People think that the other will just magically want the expendable players in our system

 

[gowazzu02]

LOL at this thread. Why in the world would the Jets want Kearse, Double L, Jefferson, Kasen Williams etc.

It's always the same with these kind of trade thread. People think that the other will just magically want the expendable players in our system

Yeah its really runny. Theres like 7 threads about just cutting Kearse but hey lets trade him for a pro bowl DT. I guess the Jets are a pretty poorly run franchise so who knows maybe JS/PC do have the "trade override button" from the video games.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I think it's doable.

2018 3rd Round Pick, 2019 5th round pick for Sheldon Richardson.

Jets get future picks and a salary dump as they rebuild thier team.

Then trade Kearse, Luke Willson, Lane, and Quinton Jefferson (2017 cap savings of about $7.7m ) to TB for 2018 4th Round Pick and 2019 6th round pick.

Seahawks are charged with a bunch of dead cap for 2018 (about $4m ) but not totally cap hindering. Seahawks relieve some of thier logjams at certain spots and allow some intriguing players a more legitimate chance to compete for a roster spot.

Williams, Lawler, Moore, Grayson, and McEvoy at WR for 1 or 2 spots if Baldwin, Lockett, Darboh, and perhaps Richardson are locks.

Swoopes, Lucas, and perhaps McEvoy at TE. Really like Swoopes, the poise he has shown thus far, and he perhaps can serve as the emergency QB. Vannett has the ability to seal an edge. Like him as #2 than Willson even though Luke is a great character.

With Brock on board, I'm less worried about NCB without Lane.

TB could use some depth at WR, TE, especially CB and Jefferson is more a flyer on a young, developmental pass-rush DT (which they also lack) that would solidify their team as a contender and they have the space to take on those contracts only sacrificing a pair of draft picks but gaining loads of Championship experience in the process.

Seahawks add Sheldon Richardson but only lose draft position although Richardson is a guarantee to net back a 3rd Round comp in 2019. So that lost draft position eventually evens out.

D-Line could run with an 8-man team of:

Bennett, Avril, Clark, and Marsh at DE.

Richardson, Rubin, Reed, and Jones at DT.

With the talent to be the best D-Line in the NFL hands down.

I just read that after the Britt signing we have about 4M of cap space.

Richarson's hit this year is 8M, so how's that gonna work?

 

[gowazzu02]

I think it's doable.

2018 3rd Round Pick, 2019 5th round pick for Sheldon Richardson.

Jets get future picks and a salary dump as they rebuild thier team.

Then trade Kearse, Luke Willson, Lane, and Quinton Jefferson (2017 cap savings of about $7.7m ) to TB for 2018 4th Round Pick and 2019 6th round pick.



D-Line could run with an 8-man team of:

Bennett, Avril, Clark, and Marsh at DE.

Richardson, Rubin, Reed, and Jones at DT.

With the talent to be the best D-Line in the NFL hands down.

I just read that after the Britt signing we have about 4M of cap space.

Richarson's hit this year is 8M, so how's that gonna work?

That is the rub... how to make it fit under the cap plus we need a little buffer too.

I think it starts with shipping off Lanes salary whatever that is he was mentioned in the article. Then possibly a high profile cut? Kearse? Not sure how much that would save.

 

[2_0_6]

I think it's doable.

2018 3rd Round Pick, 2019 5th round pick for Sheldon Richardson.

Jets get future picks and a salary dump as they rebuild thier team.

Then trade Kearse, Luke Willson, Lane, and Quinton Jefferson (2017 cap savings of about $7.7m ) to TB for 2018 4th Round Pick and 2019 6th round pick.



D-Line could run with an 8-man team of:

Bennett, Avril, Clark, and Marsh at DE.

Richardson, Rubin, Reed, and Jones at DT.

With the talent to be the best D-Line in the NFL hands down.

I just read that after the Britt signing we have about 4M of cap space.

Richarson's hit this year is 8M, so how's that gonna work?

That is the rub... how to make it fit under the cap plus we need a little buffer too.

I think it starts with shipping off Lanes salary whatever that is he was mentioned in the article. Then possibly a high profile cut? Kearse? Not sure how much that would save.

Cutting Kearse wont free up much.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

That is the rub... how to make it fit under the cap plus we need a little buffer too.

I think it starts with shipping off Lanes salary whatever that is he was mentioned in the article. Then possibly a high profile cut? Kearse? Not sure how much that would save.

Not much, bout 2M.

As I said in another thread, this trade makes no sense for the Jets. They're obviously full on we want the #1 pick in the draft tank mode, so why would they trade an 8M cap hit, and then absorb it right back in 2-3 mediocre players?

If they trade Richardson, it'll be for a young stud that's still cheap, or for picks.

 

[hawkfan68]

Depends on how desperate the Jets are. I could see a WR/DB trade with them. Maybe not Kearse but if Kasen Williams has a big game tonight, he may be in the equation or even Paul Richardson. Also, the Seahawks are stocked deeply at DB. There are guys like Desir, Elliott, McCrary, or Lane who may be trade pieces there. Where there's a will, there's a way.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Depends on how desperate the Jets are. I could see a WR/DB trade with them. Maybe not Kearse but if Kasen Williams has a big game tonight, he may be in the equation or even Paul Richardson. Also, the Seahawks are stocked deeply at DB. There are guys like Desir, Elliott, McCrary, or Lane who may be trade pieces there. Where there's a will, there's a way.

I'd be very nervous about giving up any of our WR and DB depth, not with all the injuries............especially for an 8M player that had a terrible year last year.

 

[hawkfan68]

Depends on how desperate the Jets are. I could see a WR/DB trade with them. Maybe not Kearse but if Kasen Williams has a big game tonight, he may be in the equation or even Paul Richardson. Also, the Seahawks are stocked deeply at DB. There are guys like Desir, Elliott, McCrary, or Lane who may be trade pieces there. Where there's a will, there's a way.

I'd be very nervous about giving up any of our WR and DB depth, not with all the injuries............especially for an 8M player that had a terrible year last year.

I understand where you are coming from but Richardson's terrible last year is still better than Rubin. Rubin is the current starting 3T and he's awful at that role. Richardson would be an upgrade over Rubin.

 

[Jimjones0384]

I think it's doable.

2018 3rd Round Pick, 2019 5th round pick for Sheldon Richardson.

Jets get future picks and a salary dump as they rebuild thier team.

Then trade Kearse, Luke Willson, Lane, and Quinton Jefferson (2017 cap savings of about $7.7m ) to TB for 2018 4th Round Pick and 2019 6th round pick.

Seahawks are charged with a bunch of dead cap for 2018 (about $4m ) but not totally cap hindering. Seahawks relieve some of thier logjams at certain spots and allow some intriguing players a more legitimate chance to compete for a roster spot.

Williams, Lawler, Moore, Grayson, and McEvoy at WR for 1 or 2 spots if Baldwin, Lockett, Darboh, and perhaps Richardson are locks.

Swoopes, Lucas, and perhaps McEvoy at TE. Really like Swoopes, the poise he has shown thus far, and he perhaps can serve as the emergency QB. Vannett has the ability to seal an edge. Like him as #2 than Willson even though Luke is a great character.

With Brock on board, I'm less worried about NCB without Lane.

TB could use some depth at WR, TE, especially CB and Jefferson is more a flyer on a young, developmental pass-rush DT (which they also lack) that would solidify their team as a contender and they have the space to take on those contracts only sacrificing a pair of draft picks but gaining loads of Championship experience in the process.

Seahawks add Sheldon Richardson but only lose draft position although Richardson is a guarantee to net back a 3rd Round comp in 2019. So that lost draft position eventually evens out.

D-Line could run with an 8-man team of:

Bennett, Avril, Clark, and Marsh at DE.

Richardson, Rubin, Reed, and Jones at DT.

With the talent to be the best D-Line in the NFL hands down.

I just read that after the Britt signing we have about 4M of cap space.

Richarson's hit this year is 8M, so how's that gonna work?

You must have missed the whole thread. You know, the one in which everyone is talking about trading or releasing players to create the cap room. Kinda like the one you quoted, for example.

 

[jammerhawk]

Unless Richardson could be kept for a second season w/o breaking the bank I can't see a trade happening as it would be very expensive.

 

[chris98251]

So you want Richardson or Albert, both are going to cost about the same.

 

[Josea16]

So you want Richardson or Albert, both are going to cost about the same.

Given that choice I'd go with Albert.