Russ was off today

[HuskerHawk]

A major factor for quarterback success is what he has around him, especially at the NFL level. Duh no brainer right? Russell Wilson is certainly pressing, but that is directly due to the fact that he has very little talent around him. Bevell doesn't help, but without mincing words the Hawks have a terrible oline and receiving corps (sans Baldwin, but he can't carry the team). Fix these issues, and Wilson will flourish. It's that simple. Tom Brady, the greatest quarterback of this generation, was actually getting criticized last year and the beginning of this year. People were calling him washed up and some even calling for Garoppolo. Funnily enough this coincided with him having the worst offensive weapons of his career (and that's saying something). Now with a healthy Gronk and the addition of slightly above average NFLer Brandon Lafell, he's playing some of the best football of his career. Russell Wilson has it worse, possibly a lot worse, than Brady had it last year. Chew on that.

 

[davidonmi]

It's like he doesn't trust his teammates. He doesn't trust his offensive line to block, often breaking from the pocket at the slightest hint of pressure, even if he doesn't have to. He doesn't trust his receivers to make a tough catch so he doesn't throw into tight coverage unless there is literally no other option.

The coaching staff doesn't want him taking chances, that's probably why you see him playing everything safe. Which makes sense considering how good our defense has been ever since he arrived.
He was off today, no question

 

[Tech Worlds]

His timing was off. he should have thrown a pick six. His quick passing game was inaccurate. He was off throwing deep.

I think he was rushing things, missing the whole left side and a center is no joke.

Worst game he's played in his career. It was even worse than the Cards game last year and that one was terrible. His offseason personal issues seem to affecting his play this year. Doesn't seem like he is focused for whatever reason. He seems like an average QB lately. Without Lynch's running and the defense early on this game would have been a loss.

And you know this how?

 

[kearly]

Wilson is normally a pretty accurate QB under pressure. Today, he was missing a ton of passes when under no pressure.

Not sure if I buy the timing explanation. He threw high and threw low a LOT, his distance accuracy was way out of wack. He even missed badly on some soft tosses.

I think this was just an epically bad game by Wilson. A one percent event. The next time we see Wilson miss this many throws in a game again, he might be 35 years old.

 

[gargantual]

I'd still take his horrible game over most any other QB's same.

 

[Anthony!]

A major factor for quarterback success is what he has around him, especially at the NFL level. Duh no brainer right? Russell Wilson is certainly pressing, but that is directly due to the fact that he has very little talent around him. Bevell doesn't help, but without mincing words the Hawks have a terrible oline and receiving corps (sans Baldwin, but he can't carry the team). Fix these issues, and Wilson will flourish. It's that simple. Tom Brady, the greatest quarterback of this generation, was actually getting criticized last year and the beginning of this year. People were calling him washed up and some even calling for Garoppolo. Funnily enough this coincided with him having the worst offensive weapons of his career (and that's saying something). Now with a healthy Gronk and the addition of slightly above average NFLer Brandon Lafell, he's playing some of the best football of his career. Russell Wilson has it worse, possibly a lot worse, than Brady had it last year. Chew on that.

Great post spot on.

 

[rideaducati]

Russell Wilson with a career high of 9 off target passes today. I think it's less his fault and more on the O-line, but troubling none the less.

 

[gargantual]

I think this was just an epically bad game by Wilson. A one percent event. The next time we see Wilson miss this many throws in a game again, he might be 35 years old.

Really? Wow. You really think it was that bad? I guess him stringing a few struggling games in a row made it seem less bad to me. Like others have said, I wonder if he's playing through injuries like many suspected last year before the playoffs. He's young and resilient enough that it's not obvious like it was with Hass, walking around hobbled most of the time the last few years.

Guy deserves a medal in my eyes. Probably a purple one.

 

[rastahawk]

I am going to give RW a little bit of credit here. Just because of the fill-ins on the o-line and plus it was raining pretty good. These are things that usually mess with QB's.

 

[hawkfan68]

A major factor for quarterback success is what he has around him, especially at the NFL level. Duh no brainer right? Russell Wilson is certainly pressing, but that is directly due to the fact that he has very little talent around him. Bevell doesn't help, but without mincing words the Hawks have a terrible oline and receiving corps (sans Baldwin, but he can't carry the team). Fix these issues, and Wilson will flourish. It's that simple. Tom Brady, the greatest quarterback of this generation, was actually getting criticized last year and the beginning of this year. People were calling him washed up and some even calling for Garoppolo. Funnily enough this coincided with him having the worst offensive weapons of his career (and that's saying something). Now with a healthy Gronk and the addition of slightly above average NFLer Brandon Lafell, he's playing some of the best football of his career. Russell Wilson has it worse, possibly a lot worse, than Brady had it last year. Chew on that.

Yes and no. Some QBs have the ability to make those around them better. Rodgers, Manning, and Brady have done that in the past. Russell was doing that in 2012 and 2013. He hasn't done that this year for some reason.

 

[DavidSeven]

No excuses. Russell Wilson played awful today. No QB has it perfect. Our defense and RBs largely covered up some really bad QB play. He was bailing too quickly, accuracy was off on throws that were there.

As strictly a passer, Russell is having a really rough season and has had a ton of bad plays. He needs to play better, and I've been saying that for a while. Outside of running plays and some late game heroics, we haven't gotten a whole lot out of the QB position.

 

[Blitzer88]

The entire offense was hard to watch today..............Russell really needs to pick things up, he has been really bad the last few games. The offense goes as he goes and we haven't gone anywhere as of late.

 

[nbk35zw]

he looks so... Uninterested.

 

[Anthony!]

Russell Wilson with a career high of 9 off target passes today. I think it's less his fault and more on the O-line, but troubling none the less.

add in 4 drops and most of those off targets were under major pressure

 

[northseahawk]

he looks so... Uninterested.

I agree. It looks like he is just waiting for the last drive to come up heroic. Someone needs to tell him that he needs to be a qb the whole game.

 

[HuskerHawk]

A major factor for quarterback success is what he has around him, especially at the NFL level. Duh no brainer right? Russell Wilson is certainly pressing, but that is directly due to the fact that he has very little talent around him. Bevell doesn't help, but without mincing words the Hawks have a terrible oline and receiving corps (sans Baldwin, but he can't carry the team). Fix these issues, and Wilson will flourish. It's that simple. Tom Brady, the greatest quarterback of this generation, was actually getting criticized last year and the beginning of this year. People were calling him washed up and some even calling for Garoppolo. Funnily enough this coincided with him having the worst offensive weapons of his career (and that's saying something). Now with a healthy Gronk and the addition of slightly above average NFLer Brandon Lafell, he's playing some of the best football of his career. Russell Wilson has it worse, possibly a lot worse, than Brady had it last year. Chew on that.

Yes and no. Some QBs have the ability to make those around them better. Rodgers, Manning, and Brady have done that in the past. Russell was doing that in 2012 and 2013. He hasn't done that this year for some reason.

Agreed, but the talent in 2012 and 2013 was comparable to what those other guys have dealt with, and Russ did elevate everyone's play. Tell me when any of those guys have had it worse, counting both oline and wr's. This years line is as at least as bad as last years in terms of pass pro, and we are sans Rice, Tate, Miller, and McCoy. Brady is the only one who's had a remotely comparable situation, but at least he had a solid o-line and Julian Edelman (who is better than slightly better than Baldwin) to lean on. The fact that he was able to get that group of scrubs to the AFC title last year is a testament to his greatness.

 

[Anthony!]

A major factor for quarterback success is what he has around him, especially at the NFL level. Duh no brainer right? Russell Wilson is certainly pressing, but that is directly due to the fact that he has very little talent around him. Bevell doesn't help, but without mincing words the Hawks have a terrible oline and receiving corps (sans Baldwin, but he can't carry the team). Fix these issues, and Wilson will flourish. It's that simple. Tom Brady, the greatest quarterback of this generation, was actually getting criticized last year and the beginning of this year. People were calling him washed up and some even calling for Garoppolo. Funnily enough this coincided with him having the worst offensive weapons of his career (and that's saying something). Now with a healthy Gronk and the addition of slightly above average NFLer Brandon Lafell, he's playing some of the best football of his career. Russell Wilson has it worse, possibly a lot worse, than Brady had it last year. Chew on that.

Yes and no. Some QBs have the ability to make those around them better. Rodgers, Manning, and Brady have done that in the past. Russell was doing that in 2012 and 2013. He hasn't done that this year for some reason.

Really lets look at that shall we and add a few more QBs in for good measure

Luck - 6th pass blocking o-line and has TY Hilton, Wayne, Nicks to throw to
P Manning- 4th pass blocking o-line and he has Thomas, Welker, Sanders
Brady 19th ranked pass blocking o-line (ours is now ranked 28th) and he has Gronk, Edelman
Rodger o-line ranked 19th in pass blocking and has Nelson, Cobb to throw to
Brees o-line ranked 5th and he has Graham, cooks, Colson,
Ryan 7th pass blocking o-line and he has Hester, Jones, White, Smith
Rivers 9th o-line, and he has gates, Floyd, Royal, Allen

Really let me remind you most of these Wr were good to great before their QBs got them

So sorry the talent around a QB does in fact matter and right now WIlson has it about as bad as anyone.

 

[Anthony!]

No excuses. Russell Wilson played awful today. No QB has it perfect. Our defense and RBs largely covered up some really bad QB play. He was bailing too quickly, accuracy was off on throws that were there.

As strictly a passer, Russell is having a really rough season and has had a ton of bad plays. He needs to play better, and I've been saying that for a while. Outside of running plays and some late game heroics, we haven't gotten a whole lot out of the QB position.

wow okay this is jut plain way off not gotten much out of the QB position

Game 1 191 yards 68% complt 2 tds qb rating 111
game 2 202 yards 68% complt%, 2 tds qb rating 119
game 3 258 yards 71% complt% 2 tds qb rating 100
game 4 201 yards 75% complt% 2 tds qb rating 127
Game 6 313 yards, 64% coimplt%, 2 tds, qb rating 110

Now you want to say he has had 3 bad games I agree and guess what he had more than 3 last year most QBs have a few. But to say we have gotten little out of the QB is just plain wrong.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

His offensive line is backups, his WRs aren't getting open or catching the ball, and his playcaller is inconsistent. It's not just one thing.

Agree with all of this. Pus, at times he is missing open guys when they're there.

 

[Anthony!]

A major factor for quarterback success is what he has around him, especially at the NFL level. Duh no brainer right? Russell Wilson is certainly pressing, but that is directly due to the fact that he has very little talent around him. Bevell doesn't help, but without mincing words the Hawks have a terrible oline and receiving corps (sans Baldwin, but he can't carry the team). Fix these issues, and Wilson will flourish. It's that simple. Tom Brady, the greatest quarterback of this generation, was actually getting criticized last year and the beginning of this year. People were calling him washed up and some even calling for Garoppolo. Funnily enough this coincided with him having the worst offensive weapons of his career (and that's saying something). Now with a healthy Gronk and the addition of slightly above average NFLer Brandon Lafell, he's playing some of the best football of his career. Russell Wilson has it worse, possibly a lot worse, than Brady had it last year. Chew on that.

Yes and no. Some QBs have the ability to make those around them better. Rodgers, Manning, and Brady have done that in the past. Russell was doing that in 2012 and 2013. He hasn't done that this year for some reason.

Agreed, but the talent in 2012 and 2013 was comparable to what those other guys have dealt with, and Russ did elevate everyone's play. Tell me when any of those guys have had it worse, counting both oline and wr's. This years line is as at least as bad as last years in terms of pass pro, and we are sans Rice, Tate, Miller, and McCoy. Brady is the only one who's had a remotely comparable situation, but at least he had a solid o-line and Julian Edelman (who is better than slightly better than Baldwin) to lean on. The fact that he was able to get that group of scrubs to the AFC title last year is a testament to his greatness.

Exactly that is a great point Wilson is having to do more with less than any other top QB in the league and I have already showed you this in a post or 2 above this one. I think he is just tired and needs help but does not get much. Don't you think he would love to be able to just sit in the pocket for 5 second and then throw the ball up to Dez Bryant who will almost always come down with it. He cannot be has way less than 3 seconds and no go to WR that always makes the play, so he as to be really fine with the ball and even then with now 12 drops in 3 games it is not a done deal they will catch it or make a play.