Seahawks sign Dion Jordan

[Seymour]

Probably not the best place for him. A repeat drug violator (suspended all of 2015) going to a state he can get weed legally will push his temptations to it's limits.

Irrelevant, weed is easily obtainable by anyone that wants it in every state and it's still on the banned list in the NFL. Regardless of it being legal at the state level in Washington.

Not irrelevant for that reason.
It is more out in the open and accepted here than many parts of the country. So he will be more exposed to it if he is attempting to clean it up.

Possibly irrelevant for the reason it may have been PED related, but that seems unclear at this point since it was a diluted sample he was suspended this last time for.

The NFL has two separate policies for PED and weed. So if it says Jordan was busted twice for PED's, that's not weed, that's stuff like steroids, HGH, stimulants, etc.

I'm not worried about Jordan doing weed...........if he doesn't come here with his hair on fire knowing this is probably his final chance to prove himself, then living back in the NW with the temptation of weed is #27 on my list of things to worry about with him.

He was suspended for PED once, and drug violation / diluted sample the 2nd time. So we do not know what the 2nd charge is for.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Shoot, why not. All these one year prove it deals are great for the team imo. Prove it or get sent packing.
Look at how it worked out for Avril and Bennett.

To be fair, those were established players with more than three career sacks.

Eh. At least it didn't cost much.

 

[DJrmb]

I like bringing Jordan in to see if he can be fixed. I agree with others who said Miami messed him up trying to bulk him up and play him wrong. Like Frank Clark, I think the plan for Jordan will be to drop his weight and play off his speed and explosion (if he still has any left).

 

[JSeahawks]

I'm not worried about Jordan doing weed...........if he doesn't come here with his hair on fire knowing this is probably his final chance to prove himself, then living back in the NW with the temptation of weed is #27 on my list of things to worry about with him.

I don't think he's going to want to play with his hair on fire. Been there done that.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/04/first-r ... igh-school

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I'm not worried about Jordan doing weed...........if he doesn't come here with his hair on fire knowing this is probably his final chance to prove himself, then living back in the NW with the temptation of weed is #27 on my list of things to worry about with him.

I don't think he's going to want to play with his hair on fire. Been there done that.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/04/first-r ... igh-school

LOL!

Jordan doesn't seem like the brightest bulb in the box...........but then again he did go to Oregon.

 

[bandiger]

Irvin redux. Face it he didn't really fit with the Philbin Dolphins and never played much under Gase. Underrated signing imho.

 

[bighawk]

This will end up being a great signing because like someone said earlier in Miami he bulked up to 275lbs and they tried to make him a base end. His explosiveness and burst is what caused him to be drafted that high. Knowing Pete he wants him at around 240 to 250 to play Sam. This is where Clint Hurtt comes in the new DL coach and pass rush specialist to get the best out of him and the rest of our guys. If his knee is sound just dropping that weight will do wonders. I am pulling for you go hawks!

 

[Ozzy]

I love it. Almost zero risk and high reward as others have stated. A colossal bust but extremely talented so why not. If he doesn't make the team then nothing lost. Pete probably knows him well so if he was motivated to bring him in he must see something he can work with. I love it.

 

[coorslighthawk]

Zero risk on a one year deal. Dude is obviously talented. Hopefully Pete and crew can fit him into this system.

 

[WindCityHawk]

Love it.

 

[vin.couve12]

YES! His natural position was always SLB for the Hawks.

Assuming he minds his Ps and Qs, that position is now shored up. If he can develope his pass rushing skills and help there, then all the better.

 

[Popeyejones]

Basically the same story as the Joekel signing.

The Hawks have unexpected cap room so they're spending it on one year prove it moonshots on major NFL-level busts that won't have any long-term ramifications for cap strategy.

Even if both Jordan and Joekel are as awful as they've been up to this point I still really like the strategy.

The only consequence could be if they get PT they don't deserve, but on one year deals there's a pretty small risk of even that happening, and it's not like the Hawks seem to have good young depth at either position who could be getting experience.

Even if it doesn't work really nothing not to like about it, IMO.

 

[King Dog]

Some have questioned whether he will still have his athleticism. I've only read he's had shoulder problems, so I'm not sure how that would rob him of his athletic ability.

He ran a 4.53 at the combine, and had a 1.57 10 yard split. Crazy for a guy 6'6." Hope the FO can make something out of him.

 

[semiahmoo]

I'm not worried about Jordan doing weed...........if he doesn't come here with his hair on fire knowing this is probably his final chance to prove himself, then living back in the NW with the temptation of weed is #27 on my list of things to worry about with him.

I don't think he's going to want to play with his hair on fire. Been there done that.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/04/first-r ... igh-school

Well, youth is a recipe for stupidity. The best hope is to get out of it alive.
He's done that.
Good luck to him.

 

[CamanoIslandJQ]

Dion Jordan at combine.
Measurable Measurement %tile
Height 6' 6¼" 96%
Weight 248 lbs 59%
Arm Length 33⅞" 83%
Hand Size 10" 73%
10 Yard Split 1.57s 74%
40 Yard Dash 4.6s 64%
Vertical Jump 32½" 44%
Broad Jump 122" 81%
3-Cone Drill 7.02s 62%
20 Yard Shuttle 4.35s 48%

 

[Pandion Haliaetus]

Cant coach that size... 6-6, 275.

I think the change of scenery will be positive for Jordan, or in his case a return to scenery. Those PNW Vibes. I'm sure going from Eugene, with its highly pampered Athletics department especially its football program to Miami and being handed millions wasn't the greatest recipe for Jordan to mature, on or off the field.

I think Carroll is the perfect coach for Jordan to bring out some of that potential with the help of a stacked D-Line coaching staff of Travis Johnson, Dwayne Board, and Clint Hurtt.

Not to mention the leadership Bennett and Avril bring, and a good example in Frank Clark, a young player who has seen rock bottom in a different way, but a player who has shown great maturity in his first two seasons as well as some leadership and is the cusp of stardom.

Plus, the defensive players in whole, hold themselves highly accountable and always strive for great expectations. Jordan is going to have to put in the blood, sweat, and tears to earn the respect and the playing time. So, if DJ is serious about salvaging his career, he's going to have to probably push himself harder than he's ever have. And we'll see.

As for fit within this team, I say Jordan will play more of a Bennett type role, than being pegged in the Bruce Irvin role. Jordan is listed at 6-6, 275... looks to have the size, length, and quickness to be developed into a pass-rush DL.

I still feel Clark is going to be the one developed into the Bruce Irvin role, he continues to look slimmer, a good 15-20 pounds lighter from his collegiate weight. Clark imo measures just as athletic as Irvin if you equate weight difference, and looks to be stronger at the point, stronger in run fits, and better instincts all around albeit probably a step down from Irvin in coverage.

Clark has proved to be a difference maker, he's an elite player in the making, and looks to be a future leader, and one of the most important core players still on a rookie contract. You want Clark to be on the field for 3 downs, that doesn't happen on this team unless you demote either Bennett or Avril, who are two of the best 4-3 DEs in this league.

Keep in mind Clark is 1-2 years younger now than when Irvin made is rookie debut. And if you just compare their first two seasons, I'd say Clark is farther along in total development in terms of pass-rush repitiore, run defense, mental aptitude, and even maturity. And, again, Clark is still a year or two younger than Irvin was when he came in.

Irvin made a successful transition part of which behind the coaching of Quinn and Norton, but remember Irvin shared time with Malcolm Smith in 2013, I would go as far to say they went to Smith more in high leverage situations. It was Smith that started down the stretch and in the post-season. I will say while I was one of Irvins biggest supporters, he didnt completely own the LEO LBer role until maybe 6 games or so in his third season.

I think Clark could own the Irvin role in everything but down field coverage which he' would have to develop. But without a Quinn or Norton, Seahawks did sign the previously mentioned Clint Hurt as a defensive line assistant, a coach for the past two seasons coached OLBs for the Bears. A coach who seemingly as the know-it-all to revive the developmental aspects of the LEO LBer role that Quinn started in 2013. A coach that can help Frank Clark be a 3 down player without taking Bennett/Avril off the field.

Seahawks likely have several DE prospects they like in the draft that will compete but, I see Jordan as a unique talent with a rare combo of size, length, and athleticism with enough culture (leadership, program) and coaching could be developed into a NFL ready serviceable backup.

And I'm rooting for Jordan, if it eventually means Clark will get more field time.

 

[Hawks46]

Saw this one coming as soon as he got cut.

Pete loves his athletes, and he's very good at player development. I'm not holding my breath, but it wouldn't surprise me if he turned things around up here.

I'd like to see it. Not just because the Hawks would get a good player, but because Pete's rep took a bit of a hit with Sherman's antics last year. People are starting to question Pete's player friendly philosophy exactly because Sherman didn't like to control himself in the media last year.

 

[NoCal HawkFan]

Not holding out any hope of him making the team. Provided there were no guarantee's in the contract... why not I suppose but he has ZERO pass rush skills/moves. He is simply a great athlete. NFL tackles murder you if you have nothing to bring other than athleticism (unless your name is Bradley Sowell)

 

[mikeak]

So from a draft we had zero first round picks (P. Harvin) we now have #2 Luke Joeckel #3 Dion Jordan #56 Arthur Brown #61 Eddie Lacy signed this one offseason..........

 

[nash72]

Yeah, with enough of these 'low risk, high reward' types, surely we will hit on one of them right? Right?