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I say screw him and just make him a WR. Quit trying to put him in a position where he has to block. That guy should be running WR routes every play. Let Willson do the dirty work.
DavidSeven":2uqo1i42 said:Not to stir the pot, but before we start shifting an entire offense toward Graham, I honestly need more evidence that he's more than just a situational player or that he is more useful out wide than shiftier WRs who can work with a scramble-drill QB. I get that he's a beast in the redzone; I've seen it. Does this necessarily mean he should be eating up all the targets?
Here's an underreported stat: before he was traded, New Orleans had Graham's snap count in steady decline and it was around 70% toward the end of last year. A few months later, the Saints cold call John Schneider and ask if he'd like to take Graham off their hands for inexplicable reasons. Even more inexplicable, John shrugs his shoulders and hands over a 1st round pick. I said then that was way too much for a player New Orleans had seemingly quit on. Does a 70% play count sound like an indispensable player who should be the centerpiece of an offense? Gronkowski plays all the snaps -- if he's healthy, he's in the game. Jimmy was playing less than a slot receiver.
Don't get me wrong, use him. And use him at what he's good at. But this expectation that he would be an unstoppable force up and down the field was a bit unrealistic from the beginning IMO.
HomerJHawk":1auamn0b said:I've seen 2-3 throws to him in the last 2 games where he doesn't reach, or jump, or break to the ball. Its as if he expects it to be right on target, and if not, well Jimmy ain't gonna play that. Kinda disheartening to see. I hope its not a trend.
Yeah, he didn't reach for that TD he caught. LOL.Anthony!":3e8n19k1 said:HomerJHawk":3e8n19k1 said:I've seen 2-3 throws to him in the last 2 games where he doesn't reach, or jump, or break to the ball. Its as if he expects it to be right on target, and if not, well Jimmy ain't gonna play that. Kinda disheartening to see. I hope its not a trend.
If true that might be why he is not getting the ball more, no effort. The problem could be he is so use to being the #1 guy , the guy who is first and 2nd option he does not know how to handle being 1 of several guys. I have watched the saints when he was with them the ball was not always on target there either.
Scottemojo":hgmu9vyx said:Yeah, he didn't reach for that TD he caught. LOL.Anthony!":hgmu9vyx said:HomerJHawk":hgmu9vyx said:I've seen 2-3 throws to him in the last 2 games where he doesn't reach, or jump, or break to the ball. Its as if he expects it to be right on target, and if not, well Jimmy ain't gonna play that. Kinda disheartening to see. I hope its not a trend.
If true that might be why he is not getting the ball more, no effort. The problem could be he is so use to being the #1 guy , the guy who is first and 2nd option he does not know how to handle being 1 of several guys. I have watched the saints when he was with them the ball was not always on target there either.
The guy averaged more TDs a year than a single Seahawk has caught in the last 4 years. And you are trying to paint him as the reason he isn't getting targets.
It is either Bevell or Wilson. It isn't Graham.
Lets face facts. Wilson trusts Kearse to make plays, and doesn't yet trust Graham.
yeah, I think this is Wilson's fault. He's supposed to make the plays. But Fire Bevell. This offense needs new leadership.HomerJHawk":3q9k9xrn said:Scottemojo":3q9k9xrn said:Yeah, he didn't reach for that TD he caught. LOL.Anthony!":3q9k9xrn said:HomerJHawk":3q9k9xrn said:I've seen 2-3 throws to him in the last 2 games where he doesn't reach, or jump, or break to the ball. Its as if he expects it to be right on target, and if not, well Jimmy ain't gonna play that. Kinda disheartening to see. I hope its not a trend.
If true that might be why he is not getting the ball more, no effort. The problem could be he is so use to being the #1 guy , the guy who is first and 2nd option he does not know how to handle being 1 of several guys. I have watched the saints when he was with them the ball was not always on target there either.
The guy averaged more TDs a year than a single Seahawk has caught in the last 4 years. And you are trying to paint him as the reason he isn't getting targets.
It is either Bevell or Wilson. It isn't Graham.
Lets face facts. Wilson trusts Kearse to make plays, and doesn't yet trust Graham.
I hear ya. Just an observation. No painting, yet. And maybe I'm off base. More tape will tell.
But you can see Jimmy isn't happy, and he just got here. Many of them aren't. Offense better work this out soon.
Fire Bevell. Seriously.
theincrediblesok":3pjaxh4q said:This offense is built around Lynch, everything they do is built around him and the running game. Even Wilson, Graham, Baldwin, etc are just the supporting cast.
Siouxhawk":3eu0sgsx said:I wouldn't call the strategy that Pete employs on offense conservative. He just wants to come out ahead in the turnover ratio dept. and wants a game called that emphasizes ball security and field position. It's worked great the last 2 years.
When our offensive line comes together and starts hammering out holes for Marshawn, we will be just fine. It's still a very good system.
And it's not true that Russ doesn't take chances. In fact, I thought he was throwing into double coverage way too much. He did have two touchdown passes by the way.