Surprise cuts?

[Bigpumpkin]

Good topic for the "slow time" in the football year. Here we are just past mid-May and the final cuts aren't until the end of August... three months away. I'd like to watch Training Camp and see who really "shines"......then I'd feel much better in my predictions. The original poster's contention that we could lose five top names has merit.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

For those of you saying Coyle, who's the backup MLB if that happens?

I see Britt and Hill being very distinct possibilities in the OP's list.

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Very instintive linebacker who plays with aggression that borders on reckless. Plays with a lot of passion and is a good tackler. He does play out of control sometimes, leading him to overrun plays.

IMO he plays like Earl, if Earl was a linebacker.

Thanks for the heads up McGruff.

 

[Basis4day]

Jordan Hill maybe. He only has one year left on his contract and had a down year. They traded up to draft someone who plays the same position in Jefferson.

Britt could happen. Depends on how they feel at the d

They really like Marsh on special teams.

Paul Richardson? Since when does tearing your ACL late in your rookie season make you injury prone?
He never really got right from it and ended up with a bad hamstring injury. He isn't suffering a multiple sprained ankles and missing a game here or a game there.Golden Tate didn't emerge till year three.

Your idea of injury-prone is incorrect.

Injury-prone DOES NOT mean you get the same injury over and over, it just means you keep getting injured.

If someone misses time with a leg inury, and then misses more time the next season with another leg injury, then it appears that player is prone to leg injuries.

He missed 4 games as a Freshman, then tore his ACL and missed the next season. Then he had his injuries in the NFL.

3 out of his last 4 seasons have ended with leg injuries.

Does he need to have 4 out of 5 ended early? 5 out of 6? 6 out of 7?

Paul Richardson is VERY injury-prone.

I'd say that my idea of injury prone is different than yours.

You know who is really injury prone? Football players. Making a full 16 game season is extremely difficult to do. Every player gets hurt eventually.

Richardson played a full season his senior year at Colorado. His rookie year he tore his ACL in a playoff game. Had we not made the playoffs he would have played a full season. So i think you counting that as a shortened season is misleading because our season was longer than most NFL teams. I don't think he was fully recovered, because you know, ACL injuries take a while to recover from for most players not named Adrian Peterson. When he had hamstring issues, they shut him down.

Injury prone, to me, is a player like Russell Okung. He had multiple and various ankle, pec, and toe injuries that cost him numerous stretches of inactivity throughout his 5 seasons in Seattle.

If i thought of injury prone as you do, i'd have to call Ricardo Lockette injury prone due to a single injury ending his career.

 

[Largent80]

Sorry for my attempt at humor. Britt should be gone since he can't even block a sled. Simon is what on his 4 th year and hasn't played more than 14 quarters?

These two are cuts.

 

[Hawks46]

KPL
Brock Coyle
Marsh
Simon
Christine michael
Terrell (safety)

all of them are on the bubble.

Good list as well. As for the OP's list, most of those wouldn't be a surprise. Hill and Simon in particular have shown they can't stay on the field. If you can't be relied on to stay healthy, you're not going to keep a roster spot on this team.

Richardson would surprise me a bit, but only because they like him and he showed a lot of potential, combined with on field production. He's also one of the fastest guys on the team. Lack of ST value could hurt him here.

Britt would be a surprise in that he hasn't produced at a high level, but he's been durable and the coaching staff has already said that there is a transition period to the NFL. He never really got the benefit of that, only getting on year at Tackle, getting moved to Guard (which didn't have a lot of experience at), and now on to Center. The moving around doesn't look good for him, as he really doesn't have a position, but they love his athleticism and he now has 2 years experience in the system.

I wouldn't mind seeing any of these guys lose a spot, simply because it means someone else out played them.

 

[seabowl]

Maybe Helfet?

 

[Basis4day]

Maybe Helfet?

I don't think that would be a surprise though.

 

[seabowl]

Maybe Helfet?

I don't think that would be a surprise though.

And neither would any listed on this thread already

 

[rideaducati]

My wife just got home with a surprise cut...she now has very short hair. Not Sinead short, but that 60's short in the back with long bangs in the front. SHE LOOKS GOOD.

 

[Basis4day]

Maybe Helfet?

I don't think that would be a surprise though.

And neither would any listed on this thread already

Richardson, Marsh, and Britt would definitely surprise me because i think they will make the team.

A lot of other players id agree. Nothing would surprise me about Browner or Clemmons.

 

[UGotHawked]

Jordan Hill maybe. He only has one year left on his contract and had a down year. They traded up to draft someone who plays the same position in Jefferson.

Britt could happen. Depends on how they feel at the d

They really like Marsh on special teams.

Paul Richardson? Since when does tearing your ACL late in your rookie season make you injury prone?
He never really got right from it and ended up with a bad hamstring injury. He isn't suffering a multiple sprained ankles and missing a game here or a game there.Golden Tate didn't emerge till year three.

Your idea of injury-prone is incorrect.

Injury-prone DOES NOT mean you get the same injury over and over, it just means you keep getting injured.

If someone misses time with a leg inury, and then misses more time the next season with another leg injury, then it appears that player is prone to leg injuries.

He missed 4 games as a Freshman, then tore his ACL and missed the next season. Then he had his injuries in the NFL.

3 out of his last 4 seasons have ended with leg injuries.

Does he need to have 4 out of 5 ended early? 5 out of 6? 6 out of 7?

Paul Richardson is VERY injury-prone.

I'd say that my idea of injury prone is different than yours.

You know who is really injury prone? Football players. Making a full 16 game season is extremely difficult to do. Every player gets hurt eventually.

Richardson played a full season his senior year at Colorado. His rookie year he tore his ACL in a playoff game. Had we not made the playoffs he would have played a full season. So i think you counting that as a shortened season is misleading because our season was longer than most NFL teams. I don't think he was fully recovered, because you know, ACL injuries take a while to recover from for most players not named Adrian Peterson. When he had hamstring issues, they shut him down.

Injury prone, to me, is a player like Russell Okung. He had multiple and various ankle, pec, and toe injuries that cost him numerous stretches of inactivity throughout his 5 seasons in Seattle.

If i thought of injury prone as you do, i'd have to call Ricardo Lockette injury prone due to a single injury ending his career.

Doesn't matter how you try and spin it. A dude misses significant time/games in 4 out of his last 5 years of football (including two torn knees) IS injury prone. Just the facts.

I don't see Marsh getting cut. While he may never be anything more that a rotational body on the DL, he showed signs of really making impact plays on STs. Hopefully a fire is sparked in him to really make STs his play thing - similar to Ricardo Lockette's path.

Hill is so frustrating. I hoped he would really step forward last year, but he failed to do so. If he doesn't show himself to be highly motivated, he could play his way out off this team. He will have plenty of incentive.

 

[massari]

There is literally no purpose to cut Richardson that I can see, other than to hurt the team should he live up to his potential somewhere else. They won't save any money and if he gets injured they can just sign whoever didn't make the roster (Williams,Smith,ect).

Cutting a young/cheap guy with huge potential is mind boggling.

 

[peppersjap]

I would be shocked if Coyle makes the team, I also agree with the drafted RB's Michael is probably done. There is no doubt Helfet is done. I see Browner making the team as a specialist but think Clemmons has an uphill road. I agree that Jordan Hill will really have to fight for his spot and is on the block, I think he makes it but only if he flourishes.

 

[Overseasfan]

Maybe Surprise cuts wasn't the best title. I meant it more along the lines of which guys who have a good shot at making the roster do you think actually won't? I do appreciate the banter though.

 

[QuahHawk]

Alex Collins: As a 5th Rd pick most expect him to push C-Mike off the roster. I think his lack of explosion and fumble issues could lead to Zack Brooks getting the roster spot if C-Mike surprises. So the surprise of Michael stepping up leads to the surprise cut off Collins.

Kristian Sokoli: The center battle is deep. Despite hanging on the roster all year solely based on potential, the trend to go with a little more polished this year and a surprise success of Britt at center leads Sokoli a Cable favorite getting the axe.

Marcus Burley: He has shown to be adequate, never spectacular but not a liability. The CB battle is deep. He is probably penciled in as our 4th CB behind 1. Sherman 2. Lane. 3. Shead.
Browner, Smith, Simon are batteling it out as well. I could see a surprise like Ty Smith making leaps this season and unseating the need for the smaller Burley.

Mike Morgan: He will be given first shot at SLB, if he can't perform at a high enough level do they pass on his ST value and just run with two younger LB'S with more potential.



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[Tical21]

Jordan Hill would shock me just because we have room for him in the DT rotation and he has shown pass rush smills in the league.

I don't seen Marsh as a NFL player.

Simon might have the most important camp of all the players. Shows up and plays, he could play rcb in nickel situations. Don't play well or tweak anything, probably gone.

If you want to talk surprise cuts, aren't the elephants in the room Chancellor and Graham?

 

[Pandion Haliaetus]

I think Marsh is going to surprise doubters this season.

Last year was really his rookie season so realistically he was learning and getting experience.

The Seahawks didnt really do him any favors trying to beef him up 270 his rookie training camp. And he then dropped down to 255-260.

Now, hes admittedly down to 245 but from what ive seen keeping tabs on his instagram, hes in the best shape ive seen him, looks stronger, athleticism also

 

[Hasselbeck]

Russell Wilson. Earl Thomas.

I mean it won't happen, but it'd be a pretty big surprise if it did

In all seriousness.. from the OP .. only guy on that list I think is in real danger of being cut is Britt. The other 4 would have to have really miserable preseasons to lose a spot. I feel like Simon will be an opening day starter, Hill will be an opening day starter, Marsh and Richardson will be role players that see the field quite a bit. Britt though.. if he fails at center too, he's done. I don't care how "versatile" he might be.

 

[Hasselbeck]

If you want to talk surprise cuts, aren't the elephants in the room Chancellor and Graham?

Absolutely not.

Graham likely won't even be ready for the preseason, meaning he can't be cut anyway. And given the offseason moves.. Kam is staying here.

 

[chris98251]

Cuts and or Trades, you won't see some of the name players cut, traded a remote possibility if a rookie or UDFA explodes on to the scene. You don't cut a Kam or a Sherman. Also you make a story leak and have teams come to you, going to them drops you down at least a couple levels of value in a trade.