You made a claim, he refuted it with scores that don't look like ugly wins at all. You then claim he cherry picked 12 games out of 40. He came back with data that says the Seahawks won 22 games between 2014 to 2015 (out of 32). Even if you could make the argument that 51% of ugly wins means "usually", that would still be wrong as they seem to have won more than half their games with scores that don't look like they were ugly wins. They look like dominant wins. I don't see how requiring the defense getting a turnover makes it any less dominant. I don't see why great field position makes it any less dominant. In fact, those things are probably, more often than not, what makes a team dominate over another.
It seems to me that your claims (with no stats) have been refuted by a couple of stats. You then demand more stats from him to further back his numbers up. To tell you the truth, I'm more convinced with his argument and am now waiting to see if you can come up with stats from those 12 games that back your theory up and refute his. I'm all for changing my mind, but his numbers have me more convinced at this moment in time.
So you got me curious, and decided to do a little digging on some of the games in 2015 he listed as dominating wins. Here's some info on those games.
First off there was more than 32 games played if you count post season, so not sure 51% is accurate? Anyhoo: let's just start with 2015......
1. Cards - week 17 - 36 to 6 - No doubt, dominating win by the Hawks. We scored 30 in the first half and led Arizona by 24 going into the 3rd quarter. We scored two more field goals in the second half, shut them out in the second half. Great win down there.
2. Browns - Week 15 - 30 to 13 - So off the top of my head and looking at the box scores this looks like a dominating victory by the Hawks, and it was by all accounts. But let's take into account we were playing the Johnny Football led Browns and their vaunting 27th ranked defense. Their leading tackler that day was Tashaun Gipson, ya that's what I said too, Who?
besides having the 27th ranked overall defense they were:
27th points per game - 27.0
30th against the run
22nd against the pass
So yes great win against one of the league's cellar dwellers.
Niners (both games) 20-3 and 29-13 respectfully. Both great wins against a Colin Sackorpick lead offense and a completely gutted 9ers Defense. Let's look a little closer. Despite the loss of how many pro bowl caliber players on D, the 9ers still managed to have the:
29th ranked overall defense
29th against the run
27th against the pass
Yep they pretty much sucked on both sides of the ball. Again one of the leagues worst teams last year.
Da Bears - 26-0 Hawks win. Again good game, we did what we're suppose to do against a craptastick Jimmy Clausen lead bears team with arguably one of the worst O lines in the league. But I'm more interested in the offense, so let's see how they ranked defensively.
14th overall defense ( not bad at all )
22nd against the run
4th against the pass (damn good)
Great win against a decent D, but let's face it their offensive was atrocious and could not stay on the field, and we all know what happens when the D is on the field all game. By the way, we lead 6-0 going into the 3rd quarter which further validates my claim that this offense starts slow, even in a dominating win.
Vikings - 38-7 - great win up there. But let's not pretend that Bridgewater wasn't in a little over his head in his second year. A year in which he threw 292 completions on 447 attempts for a whopping 65.3%. 14 TD's against 9 picks and just over 3,000yrds. The Vikings were as good as they were because of their D. A defense we faced missing Linval Joseph (pro bowler) and on our very first drive lost Anthony Barr and Harrison Smith. Their top 3 defenders ( the equivalent of losing Bennett, Wagner and Kam ). Those 3 then faced us in the playoffs, little bit of a different defense with them in there, yes? But none the less great win.
So in my opinion, we did what we're suppose to do against teams like these (hence my cherry picking comment). How did we fair against teams who actually were pretty good? Shall we delve into that?
P.S. I got my numbers from NFL.com so if they're wrong blame them....
