Think the LOB is gone?

[chris98251]

Sherman was quick to adopt the LOB moniker, the name was the brainchild of one of the.net crew, to advance his franchise as one of the best CBs in the league. The boom came from the physical thumping of Chancellor and Browner but was swiped by Sherm to advance his franchise. Others tried to enter the group but Sherman was quick to restrict it to the original four of Chancellor, Browner, Thomas, and Sherman, but the 12s included the whole D into the LOB.

The name is the property of the 12th man and not that of Sherman, Thomas, Chancellor, or Browner, but clearly those four were special and deserve to be remembered as the founders of the LOB but so are Bennett, Avril, Mebane, Red Bryant, Chris Clemons, and especially Wagner, KJ Wright, Irvin, and every one of the RCBs that played after Browner was suspended for whichever substance was the latest. Of course some will argue the LOB is gone but of course it isn’t, a new group will be created to play tough D and the LO B will be renewed.

Perhaps some may think this post is not fair to Sherman, but the LOB is our name for our team’s D when it plays to it’s #1 standard. I think we will be happy to use the name again the LOB is far from gone.

Maybe so, but even with the Rams D line during the Fisher era nobody called them the Fearsom Foursome, or the current Vikings the Purple People Eaters.

Those are all names from the 70s, before most of us were born, and before any players were born. Why would anyone use them?

Because something that seems lost on the last couple of generations is History, where the game came from. The reason those names have not been resurrected is because either the unit wasn't as good or had no personality to represent it.

Mean Joe Green, Jack Lambert, Deacon Jones, Alan Page, Carl Eller, Richard Sherman, the Smurfs and later to include the TE's called the Fun Bunch, they were the reason this was instituted. There was a personality to these groups. Many fans would like to reclaim that period and the greatness that it stood represented for their teams.

Known for their choreographed group celebrations in the end zone (usually a group high-five) following a touchdown, the Fun Bunch's actions eventually resulted in a league-wide ban of "excessive celebration" in 1984.

But I guess going forward they will name groups the Ipods or Androids maybe even the Frappachinos, after all anyone not 35 and younger doesn't matter anyway according I guess to some people. Seems like the Baby Boomers are still the largest population generation, we all have not died yet and expect you all to keep paying for our Social security while we spend your inheritence selfishly.

 

[ivotuk]

The Legion of Boom will always be here as long as Kam Chancellor is around. He started the name while on Bob, Groz and Tom when he said "I have to bring the BOOM." which was a phrase he liked to use when he would lay folks out.

From there, BG&T I believe, developed it in to the Legion of Boom with input from fans.

And the LOB was brought together by Pete Carroll's and John Schneider's shrewd drafting, plucking elite players out of late rounds.

So actually, as long as Pete Carroll puts this type of Defensive Backfield on the playing field, we can keep calling them L.O.B.

And if you look, we still have Byron Maxwell, Earl Thomas, and Kam Chancellor.

 

[SeaWolv]

There is much potential to be sure. He takes chances and lets some guys get behind him but makes big plays too.

He looked like he was getting beat on several snaps. He's not all that fast. He's got a decent 4:45 - 40 time but that isn't in the top echelon for DB's in the 2018 NFL Combine, several had sub 4:4 times and several WR's had sub 4:30 times.

 

[Sox-n-Hawks]

There is much potential to be sure. He takes chances and lets some guys get behind him but makes big plays too.

He looked like he was getting beat on several snaps. He's not all that fast. He's got a decent 4:45 - 40 time but that isn't in the top echelon for DB's in the 2018 NFL Combine, several had sub 4:4 times and several WR's had sub 4:30 times.

You realize

Sherman's 40 time was 4.56
Chris Harris: 4.48
Brandon Boykin. 4.44


40 time isn't the best indicator of performance, it's just one piece to the puzzle. He's 6'3" and 202lbs. PC takes big, fast corners and teaches them to "Hawk Tackle" then lets the beast feed. If anyone thinks Tre Flowers isn't an up and coming CB, they didn't watch his games very closely. Hell, Sherman was a pedestrian receiver turned CB who was too big to play at the NFL level.....

 

[original poster]

There is much potential to be sure. He takes chances and lets some guys get behind him but makes big plays too.

He looked like he was getting beat on several snaps. He's not all that fast. He's got a decent 4:45 - 40 time but that isn't in the top echelon for DB's in the 2018 NFL Combine, several had sub 4:4 times and several WR's had sub 4:30 times.

Not even 1 ran a sub 4.3 40 time.

 

[Sox-n-Hawks]

There is much potential to be sure. He takes chances and lets some guys get behind him but makes big plays too.

He looked like he was getting beat on several snaps. He's not all that fast. He's got a decent 4:45 - 40 time but that isn't in the top echelon for DB's in the 2018 NFL Combine, several had sub 4:4 times and several WR's had sub 4:30 times.

Not even 1 ran a sub 4.3 40 time.

Facts never work around here Poster. Hhaha

 

[original poster]

There is much potential to be sure. He takes chances and lets some guys get behind him but makes big plays too.

He looked like he was getting beat on several snaps. He's not all that fast. He's got a decent 4:45 - 40 time but that isn't in the top echelon for DB's in the 2018 NFL Combine, several had sub 4:4 times and several WR's had sub 4:30 times.

Not even 1 ran a sub 4.3 40 time.

Facts never work around here Poster. Hhaha

Haha! :roll: :2thumbs:

 

[SeaWolv]

There is much potential to be sure. He takes chances and lets some guys get behind him but makes big plays too.

He looked like he was getting beat on several snaps. He's not all that fast. He's got a decent 4:45 - 40 time but that isn't in the top echelon for DB's in the 2018 NFL Combine, several had sub 4:4 times and several WR's had sub 4:30 times.

You realize

Sherman's 40 time was 4.56
Chris Harris: 4.48
Brandon Boykin. 4.44


40 time isn't the best indicator of performance, it's just one piece to the puzzle. He's 6'3" and 202lbs. PC takes big, fast corners and teaches them to "Hawk Tackle" then lets the beast feed. If anyone thinks Tre Flowers isn't an up and coming CB, they didn't watch his games very closely. Hell, Sherman was a pedestrian receiver turned CB who was too big to play at the NFL level.....

Sherman is intuitive because he's so smart, he could anticipate where the play was going. However, if he misjudged the play he didn't have the speed to compensate. Didn't happen often but once in a while it did. Is Flowers intuitive like Sherman or ET? Hopefully he is, he has decent speed but he's not the fastest. The Top DB's at the combine were in the 4:32 range.

 

[SeaWolv]

There is much potential to be sure. He takes chances and lets some guys get behind him but makes big plays too.

He looked like he was getting beat on several snaps. He's not all that fast. He's got a decent 4:45 - 40 time but that isn't in the top echelon for DB's in the 2018 NFL Combine, several had sub 4:4 times and several WR's had sub 4:30 times.

Not even 1 ran a sub 4.3 40 time.

Yes you're correct, I should not have used the word sub there. I should have said they had 4:3 times or sub 4:4 times.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

And if you look, we still have Byron Maxwell, Earl Thomas, and Kam Chancellor.

Kam will probably never play football again, Maxwell's a band aid until we can draft or develop another young stud CB, and Earl's on his way to leaving/being traded or consecutive years of being franchised and mired in a contract holdout.

It's over. To continue to call our defensive backfield the LOB is insulting and diminishing what Sherman, Kam and Earl accomplished at the height of their careers.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

They don't need a name, just be a damn good D.

 

[edogg23]

Honestly, with the NFL's safety emphasis, the LOB is pretty much dead no matter what players are on your team if delivering the boom gets you a penalty, fine, and a possible suspension. It was the LOB because we had the most physical safety in the league with Kam and and the most physical corner in the league with Brandon Browner. When you faced the Seahawks as a wide receiver you knew you were literally going to get beat up out there. That style of play isn't even allowed anymore.

 

[kf3339]

Time will tell. He could be Shead or Simon which is much more likely than being Sherman.

True, but then again no one thought what "Sherman.... a shut down corner" would become when he was drafted or his first season. But he had the traits and was willing to learn. I think Flowers has as much chance to go that route if he follows a similar work ethic and learning curve.

At least be a strong #2 to Griffin's #1 corner. That would be great as well!

 

[original poster]

Honestly, with the NFL's safety emphasis, the LOB is pretty much dead no matter what players are on your team if delivering the boom gets you a penalty, fine, and a possible suspension. It was the LOB because we had the most physical safety in the league with Kam and and the most physical corner in the league with Brandon Browner. When you faced the Seahawks as a wide receiver you knew you were literally going to get beat up out there. That style of play isn't even allowed anymore.

Simply not true.

 

[chris98251]

Honestly, with the NFL's safety emphasis, the LOB is pretty much dead no matter what players are on your team if delivering the boom gets you a penalty, fine, and a possible suspension. It was the LOB because we had the most physical safety in the league with Kam and and the most physical corner in the league with Brandon Browner. When you faced the Seahawks as a wide receiver you knew you were literally going to get beat up out there. That style of play isn't even allowed anymore.

Simply not true.

Agreed, you can still play how they played, we were just really good at it and managed to mask/hide/ things that other CB's and Safety's didn't do as well. You need a special person to be able to pick a receiver up and body slam him in the 5 yard zone also. Browner could do that and when the receiver or ball carrier was with the ball and those receivers now become eligible blockers they had to be aware of him and Kam, Sherman and Earl because they would unload on them. ALL WITHIN THE RULES, just very few made the effort to follow thru with it. By the end of the game those guys felt they were in a MMA fight.

 

[SeaWolv]

And if you look, we still have Byron Maxwell, Earl Thomas, and Kam Chancellor.

Kam will probably never play football again, Maxwell's a band aid until we can draft or develop another young stud CB, and Earl's on his way to leaving/being traded or consecutive years of being franchised and mired in a contract holdout.

It's over. To continue to call our defensive backfield the LOB is insulting and diminishing what Sherman, Kam and Earl accomplished at the height of their careers.

As much as I hate to say it, I have to agree with you. We're not going to just plug Flowers in there and get the LOB back. Flowers may be a really good DB and with some more draft additions we might get something like the LOB 2.0. I would hope, in the interest of honoring the memory of what Kam, Browner, ET and Sherman did in Seattle, we name it something else.