Weather forecast Sunday in Philadelphia

[Scorpion05]

In this case it's not irrational criticism, his performace does drop significantly in the rain.

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It becomes irrational criticism when the implication is that Wilson, to quote, is "not an all weather QB." If Wilson's play was "poor" in the rain, then fine. But it isn't, it drops off like virtually every QB. If anyone has any facts to dispute this lack of drop-off with other QBs, then by all means.

Jimmy G played in two rainy games this year, and basically scored 1 TD in one, and 0 TD and 1 INT in the other. Every now and then a QB has an amazing game in poor weather, but it's not overly common.

A critique becomes unfair when it's disproportionate to your peers. If every student in the class fails, or very few pass, it would be a stretch to single out one student as an idiot. Clearly context matters. Since Russell has been drafted, there have been a few people, including in this thread, who make a concerted...and disturbing effort to ignore context for the sake of creating a negative narrative towards Wilson.

Before it was he can't win without a great defense, the next was that he can't win if the opponent scores more than 24 points. Both of those criticisms weren't remotely fair because those stats apply to most QBs, but being fair was never the intention of some. Just a focus on bashing the easiest guy to root for in the NFL. Now this rain narrative remains, until he eventually has an all-world game in the rain or snow. A standard very few other QBs will ever be held to.

One of the rain games Jimmy G played in was a monsoon. Neither team could run or pass.

Now we’re providing context. Hilarious. I sincerely hope then this same attitude will be applied to Wilson when it rains heavily, like it did in the Saints game. You’re proving my point. You’re applying a level headed opinion to Jimmy’s performance that never exists for many people with Wilson.

In the Vikings wildcard game years back, in historically frigid temperatures, I remember people legitimately questioning whether Wilson can play well in cold weather. As if any QB would have performed well with those kinds of temperatures.

 

[Scorpion05]

Why does it matter how other qbs do in the rain. The notion here is that Wilson struggles in the rain, and the improvement in weather is a good thing because of that.

Extrapolating that out as unfair criticism is missing the point of the thread and doesnt need applying to every other criticism.

Except he doesn’t “struggle in the rain.” His performance drops off, like with every other QB. That’s the point, and that’s why it matters. Why should I not bring up other QBs? Bringing up that Wilson isn’t an all-weather QB, or struggles in the rain explicitly implies that Wilson struggles compared to others.

There’s a reason why they say in the playoffs you need a defense and a running game. Because as it gets colder, windier, and rainier the passing game takes a step back. QBs miss throws they don’t normally miss. Except amongst Seahawks fans who insist on applying this unfair standard to Wilson.

If someone has proof or research showing me the disparity in QBs who light it up in the rain, great. I’m open to it.

 

[Uncle Si]

His performance dropping off is struggling. It's not rocket science. It's a comparison between him in the rain and him not in the rain. That data was provided.

We aren't talking about other Qbs, because they aren't leading the Seahawks on Sunday.

No ones using it as a stick to beat him with, just relieved the rain is holding off because hes a better QB in fair weather. No need to look for something more.

 

[balakoth]

At least not snowing or raining as Wilson as we know is not an all weather qb. Perhaps better weather than what was predicted this weekend in Seattle.

Lol of course you make it a dig on Wilson. Let me help you with reality all QBs palt worse in rain and snow. Nutblets not let thevTRUTH geT in th way of your hate.

If I could've gotten even money on knowing you'd not only respond to the post you quoted but being able to quote it nearly verbatim, it would've been the easiest money I ever made.

About the same odds knowning another Xk poster would come to the defense of another Xk poster

Ironic after lurking this boards for so long :irishdrinkers:

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

In this case it's not irrational criticism, his performace does drop significantly in the rain.

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It becomes irrational criticism when the implication is that Wilson, to quote, is "not an all weather QB." If Wilson's play was "poor" in the rain, then fine. But it isn't, it drops off like virtually every QB. If anyone has any facts to dispute this lack of drop-off with other QBs, then by all means.

Jimmy G played in two rainy games this year, and basically scored 1 TD in one, and 0 TD and 1 INT in the other. Every now and then a QB has an amazing game in poor weather, but it's not overly common.

A critique becomes unfair when it's disproportionate to your peers. If every student in the class fails, or very few pass, it would be a stretch to single out one student as an idiot. Clearly context matters. Since Russell has been drafted, there have been a few people, including in this thread, who make a concerted...and disturbing effort to ignore context for the sake of creating a negative narrative towards Wilson.

Before it was he can't win without a great defense, the next was that he can't win if the opponent scores more than 24 points. Both of those criticisms weren't remotely fair because those stats apply to most QBs, but being fair was never the intention of some. Just a focus on bashing the easiest guy to root for in the NFL. Now this rain narrative remains, until he eventually has an all-world game in the rain or snow. A standard very few other QBs will ever be held to.

One of the rain games Jimmy G played in was a monsoon. Neither team could run or pass.

Now we’re providing context. Hilarious. I sincerely hope then this same attitude will be applied to Wilson when it rains heavily, like it did in the Saints game. You’re proving my point. You’re applying a level headed opinion to Jimmy’s performance that never exists for many people with Wilson.

In the Vikings wildcard game years back, in historically frigid temperatures, I remember people legitimately questioning whether Wilson can play well in cold weather. As if any QB would have performed well with those kinds of temperatures.

You're right about anyone performing under those cold weather conditions.
If you're comparing the rain in our game vs. New Orleans to the rain in the Frisco v. Skins game, you didn't see a single minute of the latter. If you think it was equivalent, then "hilarious". It was nearly at the level of the Hawks game in KC a number of years back when the aisles were waterfalls.

 

[Chawker]

***ALERT: From the National Weather Service.

Tomorrow revised weather Update from the centers chief meteorologist has issued the fallowing statement about the NFL game in Philadelphia.

For the afternoon hours, moving in from the west, large multi layered clouds, with a 100% chance of skittles at some point this afternoon. This will be accompanied with powerful high winds and the possibility of a seismic event known only, but not limited to the Pacific North West.

Seattle Seahawks fans should dress accordingly with pockets full of Skittles. :229031_thewave:

 

[John63]

Wilson's issues in the rain are pretty apparent.

Not sure why anyone would take that as an affront to him, or take it personal themselves.

We are not taking exceptions to Wilson not doing as well in the rain, we are taking exception to the fact that ALL QBs are not as good in the rain, yet some act like it is only him, because it fits their narrative.

 

[John63]

In this case it's not irrational criticism, his performace does drop significantly in the rain.

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In a vacuum great but the question is what is the drop off of the QBs? What if their drop off is even greater?

 

[John63]

His performance dropping off is struggling. It's not rocket science. It's a comparison between him in the rain and him not in the rain. That data was provided.

We aren't talking about other Qbs, because they aren't leading the Seahawks on Sunday.

No ones using it as a stick to beat him with, just relieved the rain is holding off because hes a better QB in fair weather. No need to look for something more.

But that is where you are wrong some do use it to beat him with and have for years.

 

[JGreen79]

In this case it's not irrational criticism, his performace does drop significantly in the rain.

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In a vacuum great but the question is what is the drop off of the QBs? What if their drop off is even greater?

The point wasn’t about how much his drop of is compared to other QBs. The poInt was about if the criticism was valid or not, and clearly it is.

 

[Mad Dog]

To be fair, Russ isn't as much bad in the rain but bad in the wind. Most of the notably bad performances in the rain have occurred on simultaneously windy days.

And given Russ' tendency to throw deeper passes and use more touch, it makes sense that wind is his nemesis. If a QB is a dink and dunker with only one speed, he won't be as affected by wind.

There's a reason that so many of the most proliferative QB's in the modern era have played in domes. And why Chicago "The Windy City" has never had a decent QB in the modern era.

 

[John63]

In this case it's not irrational criticism, his performace does drop significantly in the rain.

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In a vacuum great but the question is what is the drop off of the QBs? What if their drop off is even greater?

The point wasn’t about how much his drop of is compared to other QBs. The poInt was about if the criticism was valid or not, and clearly it is.

Ahh so we are holding him to a higher standard then all QBs, since only the fact his numbers dip matters. Even if he played the best of all QB in the rain it does not matter. LOL pathetic.

 

[JGreen79]

The point wasn’t about how much his drop of is compared to other QBs. The poInt was about if the criticism was valid or not, and clearly it is.

Ahh so we are holding him to a higher standard then all QBs, since only the fact his numbers dip matters. Even if he played the best of all QB in the rain it does not matter. LOL pathetic.

How do you come to that conclusion? Not once did I state that he was held to a higher standard. The fact that his numbers drop in the rain, show that's it's an area he could improve on. My belief that it's valid to criticise him for it doesn't mean that I do.

You seem to be looking for reasons everyone else brings him down, when most of us are glad that the weather is favorable.