Josea16":2m6cwqx1 said:
5_Golden_Rings":2m6cwqx1 said:
Josea16":2m6cwqx1 said:
5_Golden_Rings":2m6cwqx1 said:
49er fan here (indicates I like the Patriots a lot more than the Seahawks). One question: I've been here since 2010; How long have
you been here?
I ask because there is a SMACK SHACK sub-forum, wherein we talk smack to each other. Doing it outside of there is potential cause for banishment.
http://seahawks.net/viewforum.php?f=23
What has he done that's so bad? He just seems like a regular guy to me. Sure, he's not being an intricate part to a children's charity like the strangely hated Colin Kaepernick (exhibit A: Camp Taylor), but I've never see him doing anything like be accused of beating a woman or some other thing that terrible people do.
He @ucking cheats troll boy. It's documented and Goodell had to suspend his punk ass even though he was trying to find any excuse not to and find any way not to make it 8 games as it should have been from the jump. CTI is horrible, on the level of Alzheimer's horrible but if someone deserves CTI it would be Tommy purely for his stupidity and arrogance. Belicheck deserves Alzheimer's just because he cheats for no reason I can understand. The man is the best NFL head coach in history but he cheats even so.
Do we have to do the basic science lesson again? There's not a shred of evidence that withstands scrutiny that Brady deflated balls to an illegal level or had someone do it for him. Not one. The standard of evidence used in that case is lower than that required for a police officer to pull you over on the side of the road. The only questionable event was him destroying his phone, but that could have been for any number of reasons (maybe he had d!ck picks of other dudes, for example; or another possibility is he wanted the balls deflated to within the legal parameters, which would NOT be cheating per the definition of the rules; or perhaps he has been cheating on his wife with another woman; or maybe he's a paranoid nutcase who does that as a normal action after getting a new phone....
Using banned substances is cheating too, as is defensive holding. Should Sherman get Alzheimer's too, since he routinely violates the rules (HOLDS) when playing?
Come on. The punishment is absurdly disproportionate, especially considering there is no concrete proof that Brady actually cheated... only what amounts to the speculation of bored housewives. FACT: Brady got suspended because of Spygate.
Keep spinning someone might believe you someday.
Here, let me show you.
We need two things to determine if the Wells report is full of crap. (1) An equation relating change in temperature to pressure. (2) Data that can be entered into it. It just so happens that both exist or can be reasonably inferred:
The equation (two of them because there are two instances in time that we want to examine):
P1V = nRT1
P2V = nRT2
What do we have, and what reasonable assumptions can be made?
T1 = the air in the locker room, I think 72 degrees F = 295.372 K
T2 = the air on the field, I believe it was 48 degrees F = 282.039 K
R = 8.3144598 J/(mol*K)
P1 = say, 12.5 psi = 86184.47 N/m^2
P2 = we want to solve for this
V = approximately constant (because the size of the footballs are not going to change much based on the little dip in pressure) = 4237 cm^3 = 0.004237 m^3 (why do people list volumes in centimeters online... /facepalm)
n = number of moles, which remains constant so I'm not even going to put a number for it (a mole is a number giving us information on how many atoms there are. It's like a dozen or a pair; just a word for how many atoms there are. Changes in pressure do not change the number of atoms in this case, because to see if the balls could naturally deflate we have to assume the number of atoms remains constant).
So, since volume is constant, we can combine the two equations:
P1V = nRT1
V = nRT1/P1
AND
P2V = nRT2
V = nRT2/P2
ergo,
nRT2/P2 = nRT1/P1
But of course, n and R cancel, leaving...
T2/P2 = T1/P1 (*side note: those of you familiar with physics or chemistry will recognize this as Gay-Lussac's Law)
We need to solve for P2
P2 = T2(P1/T1)
Now plug in numbers for T2, P1 and T1:
P2 = (282.039 K)*[(89631.8 N/m^2)/(295.372 K )] = 11.9 psi.
So we went from a football at the league minimum and lost more than half a psi just in my stupid little example.
You will note that the Prioleau measurements of the pressure after the balls were rechecked ranged from 10.9 to 12.3 psi, which puts this little physics example of mine smack in the middle of the measurements that got Brady suspended, even though IT WOULD HAVE OCCURRED NATURALLY!
Now, it certainly isn't fair that I can do this on my own because I am much more familiar with physics than most people, but this is the simplest of physics you will see, aside from basic mechanics of objects moving in one dimension. You don't even have to worry about vectors with this. Elementary algebra is the highest level of math required to understand this. If you can't read through this and understand it, then you really don't have any right to speak on the subject. If you can, then you know I just proved with a back of the envelop calculation that it is an ENTIRELY REASONABLE PROPOSITION that the balls deflated due to temperature change. Proven? No. But a reasonable possibility? Definitely.
Clearly a more advanced analysis would be needed if we were really wanting to get to the bottom of it. Fortunately, it has already been done by people in academia, and the overwhelming majority side with me on this issue. It's no wonder, of course, because this is after all the most basic of physics. Even a more in depth and rigorous analysis would just be a more careful and sophisticated version of what you see here.
So yeah, I'll keep spinning while you keep your head safely buried under the sand.