Antonio Brown to TB + TB (Tom Brady & Tampa Bay)

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Fade":3e51m0py said:
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Keyshawn breaks it down very well.



Searching around the internet for hot takes it seems like most of the former players are for it. And most of the mediots who never played are against it. I wonder who I should trust? :shock:




The moment AB went cRaZy: For those interested -->
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At the 4:00 mark of that first video, Keyshawn strongly hints that AB would be content being a decoy for DK and Tyler. If he really believes that, I want some of what that dude is smoking. There is no way in hell AB would be satisfied in a decoy role with the occasional target. He'll want to prove he's still one of the best in the game so he can get paid next year.

Here's another video, (yes I know it’s Bayless, but still) and at the 5:20 mark, they talked about Bruce Arians and whether he would be interested in bringing AB to Tampa. (Arians coached him early in his career while he was with the Steelers). Bruce apparently responded that he was not interested in AB because he would not be a good fit in their locker room. Now keep in mind, he's basing this primarily on what he witnessed early in AB's career in Pittsburgh before all the meltdowns and erratic behaviors. That seems pretty convincing to me that AB is a cancer just looking for an unsuspecting target.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEJj4TlybXU

Regardless of my opinion, it sure sounds like it's going to happen. Based on the reports I’m seeing, apparently it’s between the Hawks, Ravens and GB with Seattle being the odds-on favorite. Will be interesting for sure. I just think it's a big mistake, but I would love to be wrong about that and I don't mind eating my crow.
 

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If AB clearly had a Cluster B personality disorder, e.g., Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), the answer would be "Sign him! Cheap with tons of behavior clauses!" The reason being that an NPD in his situation would go out of his way to be on his best behavior, trying to show it was "everybody else" who was the problem.

That was the Richard Sherman approach; he went to SF, and Niners have gotten Sherman's best behavior, strong play, leadership, and relative lack of drama, because Sherman had a point to prove, on a quest to show it wasn't him who was the problem in Seattle.

So, if AB was NPD, it would be simple. However, as the rumors and behavior suggest, AB's problem may be CTE. Maybe CTE that triggers him to behave as an NPD? Except many NPD's usually spend more time being smart and calculating than they spend being impulsive and stupid. AB has simply been an out of control nutcase.

The good news that Pete and John understand Cluster B personality disorders, after the Percy Harvin fiasco, and possibly Cluster B issues played a role in Malik McDowell draft mess as well. If anyone can make sense of the AB situation, and make a good call (even if it's kicking the tires on AB) it's Pete and John.

I hate the AB of the last few years, but still respect his game.
 

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AB seemed to be doing pretty well in New England, yeah he had that group tweet that got him fired but he wasnt acting out with the team. He even had a respectful tweet thanking the Pats after he got fired. Give him a shot, and have a short leash on him. If we don't then the Pack or the Ravens will.
 

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I'd be concerned he would rub off on D.K.

D.K. by all accounts is a model citizen, works his butt off, and is everything you want in a young burgeoning superstar. AB could be that moldy piece of fruit that ruins the whole batch.
 

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Russ is all in on AB. And if Russ likes it, then I like it!!!
 

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gowazzu02":1mwy9bx4 said:
I'd be concerned he would rub off on D.K.

D.K. by all accounts is a model citizen, works his butt off, and is everything you want in a young burgeoning superstar. AB could be that moldy piece of fruit that ruins the whole batch.


Yeah, I would be very worried having AB mentor DK and if I was the Hawks FO, that would be a good enough reason to just say no. Teams have done it with other players.. Baltimore and Texas.. said NO to Et and ET isn't half the idiot AB is.
 

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gowazzu02":74lekie7 said:
I'd be concerned he would rub off on D.K.

D.K. by all accounts is a model citizen, works his butt off, and is everything you want in a young burgeoning superstar. AB could be that moldy piece of fruit that ruins the whole batch.

Agreed, my main concern is that we have a repeat of the JuJu-AB fiasco in Pittsburgh, and it erodes the trust our WR's have in the organization and in each other, creating problems that extend beyond AB's inevitable release
 

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gowazzu02":1vv60qsi said:
I'd be concerned he would rub off on D.K.

D.K. by all accounts is a model citizen, works his butt off, and is everything you want in a young burgeoning superstar. AB could be that moldy piece of fruit that ruins the whole batch.


It seems some on this board are completely dismissing Lockett as the veteran leader in our WR room. If anything, DK is getting excellent mentorship from him and RW since the start of his rookie year. Does those posters think that all of a sudden AB can wreck all of that work in just half a season of football? Really?

I think there are those that are giving DK far too little credit for what he has already accomplished and ability to take only positive mentorship. I have no concerns at all with DK to follow the right path. NONE.
 

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Tusc2000":2uz0xw3a said:
Russ is all in on AB. And if Russ likes it, then I like it!!!
Why not, I mean Russ was right about Percy Harvin wasn’t he?

Wait...
 

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bigskydoc":2x40j3cn said:
Can he play defensive end?

The Seahawks rank 11th in pressure rate. And through week 5 were 5th in total pressures.

Pressure does not matter when your coverage principles and scheme are messed up on the back end. A defensive end would do very little for this team with what they have/willing to trade.

AB can fix Seattle's 3rd down offense, and make them impossible to stop in the process. Costing 0 draft picks, 0/low guarantees, and can be cut at anytime if need be.
 

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hawk45":1hqksc84 said:
Tusc2000":1hqksc84 said:
Russ is all in on AB. And if Russ likes it, then I like it!!!
Why not, I mean Russ was right about Percy Harvin wasn’t he?

Wait...

Fiction can be fun. Wilson didn't go to the Seahawks asking them to trade for Harvin.

But he has campaigned for AB, and trained with him. Totally different scenarios. Aside from just Harvin being a mega-investment, and AB being signed for pennies on the dollar, and can be cut at anytime.
 

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Fade":ykh7se2w said:
The Seahawks rank 11th in pressure rate. And through week 5 were 5th in total pressures.

Pressure does not matter when your coverage principles and scheme are messed up on the back end. A defensive end would do very little for this team with what they have/willing to trade.
Aren't they #1 in blitzing?
 
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Fade":1gshwd6m said:
bigskydoc":1gshwd6m said:
Can he play defensive end?

The Seahawks rank 11th in pressure rate. And through week 5 were 5th in total pressures.

Pressure does not matter when your coverage principles and scheme are messed up on the back end. A defensive end would do very little for this team with what they have/willing to trade.

AB can fix Seattle's 3rd down offense, and make them impossible to stop in the process. Costing 0 draft picks, 0/low guarantees, and can be cut at anytime if need be.

We have needed that sure catching 3rd down possession receiver ever since ADB left I think it's worth a shot, especially since RW wants it.
 

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massari":3tznttot said:
Fade":3tznttot said:
The Seahawks rank 11th in pressure rate. And through week 5 were 5th in total pressures.

Pressure does not matter when your coverage principles and scheme are messed up on the back end. A defensive end would do very little for this team with what they have/willing to trade.
Aren't they #1 in blitzing?

Not even close. Pittsburgh is #1 by a country mile, and the #2 is 10 percentage points back. The Seahawks are 10th.


Meanhwhile, the Seahawks offense is 31st on 3rd down. AB could really help.
 

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See the problem I have is that for AB to fit in this locker room means that he has to be unselfish, and be accountable...These are HUGE factors in the locker room, HUGE... I just don't see him being either... Is he a changed man? I guess we dont really know... but what's at stake here? IMO the reason the Hawks are 5-0 is because of how close these guys are, how motivated these guys are they have a unwavering sense of belief in there goal... Its because there are no distractions...everybody is on the same page...

If the Hawks sign this guy it will probably be for the league minimum or close to it... he is not going to stick around he is just looking for an way back into the NFL...he is looking for the big paycheck down the road I highly doubt the Hawks will have the money to keep him around.. maybe they will but is the chance of a distraction worth what he brings as a football player? yeah they can just cut him... ok... I just dont see the pay off worth it with the talent this team currently has...

The Hawks have plenty of weapons to get third downs in the passing game as in Disley , Olsen, Carson, Dorsett, the biggest problem I see id Wilson wants the big play and sometimes looks past the check down...ok.. that's Wilson...nobody is perfect...Im ok with that..

I just dont see it as being a good thing

LTH
 

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DomeHawk":3svwb3h5 said:
Fade":3svwb3h5 said:
bigskydoc":3svwb3h5 said:
Can he play defensive end?

The Seahawks rank 11th in pressure rate. And through week 5 were 5th in total pressures.

Pressure does not matter when your coverage principles and scheme are messed up on the back end. A defensive end would do very little for this team with what they have/willing to trade.

AB can fix Seattle's 3rd down offense, and make them impossible to stop in the process. Costing 0 draft picks, 0/low guarantees, and can be cut at anytime if need be.

We have needed that sure catching 3rd down possession receiver ever since ADB left I think it's worth a shot, especially since RW wants it.

This is the compelling football reason to get him. That seems to be the only weakness on the offence and would solve it. I don't see Dorsett doing well in that role when he's back. I think Gordon could, like he caught a few key third down play in San Fran last year, but who knows if Rog is going to let him come back.
 

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Visiting Tampa if he signs there Superbowl is instantly Tom's no one has a D as good as they do atm and no one can cover those three WR's game set and match we have to have him.
 
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