Cam Newton vs Geno Smith, who would you pick for a backup QB

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Bigpumpkin":1ffmyhw9 said:
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Cam Newton is unvaccinated. The prospect of him infecting the quarterback room was probably a factor in BB's mind.

Can we get serious here?

I'm serious. He lost time already over covid, both last year and this year.

Every QB room interaction has to be conducted via different protocols. People like BB don't like being "flexible" in that way by nature.

Cam probably made it clear he wouldn't be a No. 2--or a cooperative one--and on top of this, wouldn't do the one thing that would make him look like a team player.
 

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ivotuk":37cj28n0 said:
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I truly get the dislike for Newton . With this said you are all saying Geno now but with Covid positives on the rise, if forbid Russ goes into quarantine then I'd rather have the MUCH better qb in Cam then Geno. Sorry but Cam being better than Geno is fact.

Delusional post. :snack:

Physically, his shoulders are shot. Too many big hits, and surgeries.

He’s been a starter everywhere he’s been. Geno only started at the way beginning of his career and was relegated to backup because he is not good enough to start.

Now who’s delusional?????
 

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No, he has a slow release, he has issues learning an offense, he is borderline at best narcissistic and that would have an effect on the team.
 

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seabowl":2n4dwawn said:
ivotuk":2n4dwawn said:
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I truly get the dislike for Newton . With this said you are all saying Geno now but with Covid positives on the rise, if forbid Russ goes into quarantine then I'd rather have the MUCH better qb in Cam then Geno. Sorry but Cam being better than Geno is fact.

Delusional post. :snack:

Physically, his shoulders are shot. Too many big hits, and surgeries.

He’s been a starter everywhere he’s been. Geno only started at the way beginning of his career and was relegated to backup because he is not good enough to start.

Now who’s delusional?????

- his skills are deteriorating rapidly
- he's a distraction
- he refuses to get vaccinated
- he'd cost more

Smith is one of the better backups in the league, he's been in the system for a year now, he's a great teammate and he's cheap. Everything you want in your backup.
 

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Sgt. Largent":2nyxltak said:
seabowl":2nyxltak said:
ivotuk":2nyxltak said:
seabowl":2nyxltak said:
I truly get the dislike for Newton . With this said you are all saying Geno now but with Covid positives on the rise, if forbid Russ goes into quarantine then I'd rather have the MUCH better qb in Cam then Geno. Sorry but Cam being better than Geno is fact.

Delusional post. :snack:

Physically, his shoulders are shot. Too many big hits, and surgeries.

He’s been a starter everywhere he’s been. Geno only started at the way beginning of his career and was relegated to backup because he is not good enough to start.

Now who’s delusional?????

- his skills are deteriorating rapidly
- he's a distraction
- he refuses to get vaccinated
- he'd cost more

Smith is one of the better backups in the league, he's been in the system for a year now, he's a great teammate and he's cheap. Everything you want in your backup.

Smith's been here 2 years. I remember him competing with Paxton Lynch for the backup job in the 2019 preseason.
 

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Cam.

He can be a specialist in short yardage situations, by falling forward for the 1st down or the TD.
 

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Fade":2cztx2vo said:
Cam.

He can be a specialist in short yardage situations, by falling forward for the 1st down or the TD.

Or a Towel Rack..............
 

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seabowl":8nrpcxxv said:
I truly get the dislike for Newton . With this said you are all saying Geno now but with Covid positives on the rise, if forbid Russ goes into quarantine then I'd rather have the MUCH better qb in Cam then Geno. Sorry but Cam being better than Geno is fact.


you mean the same Cam who would not jump on a loose ball in the playoffs to help his team?

Yeah I am good, Geno knows the system, the team he is well-liked, Can is a Diva, not well-liked by anyone, and I pretty much shot.
 

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seabowl":1syc95nh said:
ivotuk":1syc95nh said:
seabowl":1syc95nh said:
I truly get the dislike for Newton . With this said you are all saying Geno now but with Covid positives on the rise, if forbid Russ goes into quarantine then I'd rather have the MUCH better qb in Cam then Geno. Sorry but Cam being better than Geno is fact.

Delusional post. :snack:

Physically, his shoulders are shot. Too many big hits, and surgeries.

He’s been a starter everywhere he’s been. Geno only started at the way beginning of his career and was relegated to backup because he is not good enough to start.

Now who’s delusional?????


So he has been a starter everywhere he has been, What makes you think he will want to come here and be a backup? What makes you think if he did he would not cause trouble. He has also only played 65% of the games the last 3 years having missed 17 in the last 3 years.
 

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SantaClaraHawk":ynw36241 said:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SFY/status/1432791994426814465[/tweet]

He's right.

It's the same scenario when players like Ocho Cinco, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss and Antonio Brown's talent no longer is worth the nonsense that comes along with their distracting antics or decisions.

Cam's tone deaf if he didn't think a hard ass like Belichick wouldn't cut his ass for not doing what he was suppose to to be a good teammate and not jeopardize even one snap of their season.
 

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John63":3nex3zpp said:
seabowl":3nex3zpp said:
ivotuk":3nex3zpp said:
seabowl":3nex3zpp said:
I truly get the dislike for Newton . With this said you are all saying Geno now but with Covid positives on the rise, if forbid Russ goes into quarantine then I'd rather have the MUCH better qb in Cam then Geno. Sorry but Cam being better than Geno is fact.

Delusional post. :snack:

Physically, his shoulders are shot. Too many big hits, and surgeries.

He’s been a starter everywhere he’s been. Geno only started at the way beginning of his career and was relegated to backup because he is not good enough to start.

Now who’s delusional?????


So he has been a starter everywhere he has been, What makes you think he will want to come here and be a backup? What makes you think if he did he would not cause trouble. He has also only played 65% of the games the last 3 years having missed 17 in the last 3 years.

What makes them think he'll take as little as the $1.2m we're paying Geno to ride the pine?
 

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Cam Newton is unvaccinated. The prospect of him infecting the quarterback room was probably a factor in BB's mind.

Can we get serious here?

Cam Newton missed a week of practice because he's unvaccinated. You want to deal with that every couple of weeks?

https://fansided.com/2021/08/31/cam-newton-released-patriots-vaccination-status/

Really? Because all I've heard about the vaccines is they only prevent serious illness and death. What about the thousands of positive tests for vaccinated people?

I think you need to get your facts straight and use your brain. People who are not vaccinated are being demonized even if they pose no risk and have antibodies, yet people like you feel compelled to fear monger and spread disinformation so you can feel like a covid hero. Sick of it
 

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Sgt. Largent":34kc5h7y said:
SantaClaraHawk":34kc5h7y said:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SFY/status/1432791994426814465[/tweet]

He's right.

It's the same scenario when players like Ocho Cinco, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss and Antonio Brown's talent no longer is worth the nonsense that comes along with their distracting antics or decisions.

Cam's tone deaf if he didn't think a hard ass like Belichick wouldn't cut his ass for not doing what he was suppose to to be a good teammate and not jeopardize even one snap of their season.


This is also why Kaepernick never got another gig. Can't be mediocre and a major distraction. Plus he still wanted to be paid like he was elite.
 

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cymatica":2sz4en25 said:
Maulbert":2sz4en25 said:
Bigpumpkin":2sz4en25 said:
SantaClaraHawk":2sz4en25 said:
Cam Newton is unvaccinated. The prospect of him infecting the quarterback room was probably a factor in BB's mind.

Can we get serious here?

Cam Newton missed a week of practice because he's unvaccinated. You want to deal with that every couple of weeks?

https://fansided.com/2021/08/31/cam-newton-released-patriots-vaccination-status/

Really? Because all I've heard about the vaccines is they only prevent serious illness and death. What about the thousands of positive tests for vaccinated people?

I think you need to get your facts straight and use your brain. People who are not vaccinated are being demonized even if they pose no risk and have antibodies, yet people like you feel compelled to fear monger and spread disinformation so you can feel like a covid hero. Sick of it


you answered your own question if the vaccines prevent serious illness and death, why would you want someone on your team that might get seriously ill or die. Therw is a difference between being vaccinated and testing positive but knowing you will not die or get seriously ill, and not being vaccinated and know you might die or get seriously ill. The reality is if he is not vaccinated he is a bigger threat to himself and to others period. It's not about fear it's about the facts.

As to being sick of it, I am sick of people dying, or getting so ill they have to go to the hospital because they did not take the vaccine and when someone who gets injured in a car wreck or something gets turned away because there is no room because they are filled with non vaccinated covid patience. Ove r90% of the people hospitalized with Covid are unvaccinated, 100% of the critically ill ones are unvaccinated.
 

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John63":ionpbc0f said:
cymatica":ionpbc0f said:
Maulbert":ionpbc0f said:
Bigpumpkin":ionpbc0f said:
Can we get serious here?

Cam Newton missed a week of practice because he's unvaccinated. You want to deal with that every couple of weeks?

https://fansided.com/2021/08/31/cam-newton-released-patriots-vaccination-status/

Really? Because all I've heard about the vaccines is they only prevent serious illness and death. What about the thousands of positive tests for vaccinated people?

I think you need to get your facts straight and use your brain. People who are not vaccinated are being demonized even if they pose no risk and have antibodies, yet people like you feel compelled to fear monger and spread disinformation so you can feel like a covid hero. Sick of it


you answered your own question if the vaccines prevent serious illness and death, why would you want someone on your team that might get seriously ill or die. Therw is a difference between being vaccinated and testing positive but knowing you will not die or get seriously ill, and not being vaccinated and know you might die or get seriously ill. The reality is if he is not vaccinated he is a bigger threat to himself and to others period. It's not about fear it's about the facts.

As to being sick of it, I am sick of people dying, or getting so ill they have to go to the hospital because they did not take the vaccine and when someone who gets injured in a car wreck or something gets turned away because there is no room because they are filled with non vaccinated covid patience. Ove r90% of the people hospitalized with Covid are unvaccinated, 100% of the critically ill ones are unvaccinated.

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