I like this. In fact, let’s double down on everything and go get Clowney and Everson from Minnesota. Go for it now. Because that’s where the glory is currently. We don’t use first round picks very often, this year aside, and have found more value in the middle to late round picks anyway. I like the trade.CPHawk":2vwcv8n6 said:Basically we just traded 2 picks that wouldn't make an impact based on our history picking. For a guy who is an All Pro level right now? I'll take it. As long as wee kept those middle round picks, we will be better off because of this trade.
CPHawk":3j8ye3se said:Say Adam's was in the draft this year. How much would it have cost to move up from 26 to 6?
John63":2qjk5vsh said:again what good is a safety when the QB has all day due to no pass rush
what good is a safety when your QB is running for his life again.
I love the plaeyrs, hate teh price adn the fact we still have bigger needs
Also Wilson did not get his wich
were is the pass rush, were is the offensive weapons ie 3rd WR, were is the pass protection.
They went into this off season with 4 needs
pass rush
pass blocking
#3 wr option
another RB
we are 1 for 4 that is bad
PateratoWilson":13mwkwco said:I like this. In fact, let’s double down on everything and go get Clowney and Everson from Minnesota. Go for it now. Because that’s where the glory is currently. We don’t use first round picks very often, this year aside, and have found more value in the middle to late round picks anyway. I like the trade.CPHawk":13mwkwco said:Basically we just traded 2 picks that wouldn't make an impact based on our history picking. For a guy who is an All Pro level right now? I'll take it. As long as wee kept those middle round picks, we will be better off because of this trade.
ducks41468":2lpeow15 said:John63":2lpeow15 said:again what good is a safety when the QB has all day due to no pass rush
what good is a safety when your QB is running for his life again.
I love the plaeyrs, hate teh price adn the fact we still have bigger needs
Also Wilson did not get his wich
were is the pass rush, were is the offensive weapons ie 3rd WR, were is the pass protection.
They went into this off season with 4 needs
pass rush
pass blocking
#3 wr option
another RB
we are 1 for 4 that is bad
Its not like we were filling those needs via the draft anyway. I'd rather have a good secondary and weak pass rush than both a weak pass rush and secondary, which is what we're looking at if we try building solely through the draft.
flv":3sgd95jz said:Great player. NFL position of low importance. NFL position of low Seahawks need. Big overpay. Looks like 1 more win in 2020, neutral in 2021, and 1 less win per year in the following 3 years.
ducks41468":2t4joa32 said:John63":2t4joa32 said:again what good is a safety when the QB has all day due to no pass rush
what good is a safety when your QB is running for his life again.
I love the plaeyrs, hate teh price adn the fact we still have bigger needs
Also Wilson did not get his wich
were is the pass rush, were is the offensive weapons ie 3rd WR, were is the pass protection.
They went into this off season with 4 needs
pass rush
pass blocking
#3 wr option
another RB
we are 1 for 4 that is bad
Its not like we were filling those needs via the draft anyway. I'd rather have a good secondary and weak pass rush than both a weak pass rush and secondary, which is what we're looking at if we try building solely through the draft.
Fade":682w8nlu said:This is a great move if the Seahawks play man free and have Adams on Kittle the bulk of the game. If they sit back in tampa 2 like they did last year? Then it is a horrible trade.
I surmise they played so much Tampa 2 last year because they had no confidence in the back-end, so I am expecting that to change with Dunbar and Adams.
Seattle has a bunch of JAGs coming off the books in the next 2 years, so they can afford the eventual high cap numbers in '22 and '23.
The draft pick price tag is steep, but the Seahawks only embarrass themselves when they pick in the 1st, so it's best to not have those picks anyway.
Seattle turned two surefire crap picks into a 24 year old All-Pro.
LC Griffin
SS Adams
FS Diggs
RC Dunbar
It appears they might just have the best secondary in the NFL.
It all boils down to how they play defense, though. Adams needs to be manning up against the top TEs like Kittle for this to be a good trade. If I see them sitting back in soft zone, and Kittle runs a dig route for the the easy pitch and catch 1st down, I will be pissed.
flv":2kazmsa7 said:Great player. NFL position of low importance. NFL position of low Seahawks need. Big overpay. Looks like 1 more win in 2020, neutral in 2021, and 1 less win per year in the following 3 years.
Fade":1xoyh0nm said:This is a great move if the Seahawks play man free and have Adams on Kittle the bulk of the game. If they sit back in tampa 2 like they did last year? Then it is a horrible trade.
I surmise they played so much Tampa 2 last year because they had no confidence in the back-end, so I am expecting that to change with Dunbar and Adams.
Seattle has a bunch of JAGs coming off the books in the next 2 years, so they can afford the eventual high cap numbers in '22 and '23.
The draft pick price tag is steep, but the Seahawks only embarrass themselves when they pick in the 1st, so it's best to not have those picks anyway.
Seattle turned two surefire crap picks into a 24 year old All-Pro.
LC Griffin
SS Adams
FS Diggs
RC Dunbar
It appears they might just have the best secondary in the NFL.
It all boils down to how they play defense, though. Adams needs to be manning up against the top TEs like Kittle for this to be a good trade. If I see them sitting back in soft zone, and Kittle runs a dig route for the the easy pitch and catch 1st down, I will be pissed.
John63":ffqtncfq said:ducks41468":ffqtncfq said:John63":ffqtncfq said:again what good is a safety when the QB has all day due to no pass rush
what good is a safety when your QB is running for his life again.
I love the plaeyrs, hate teh price adn the fact we still have bigger needs
Also Wilson did not get his wich
were is the pass rush, were is the offensive weapons ie 3rd WR, were is the pass protection.
They went into this off season with 4 needs
pass rush
pass blocking
#3 wr option
another RB
we are 1 for 4 that is bad
Its not like we were filling those needs via the draft anyway. I'd rather have a good secondary and weak pass rush than both a weak pass rush and secondary, which is what we're looking at if we try building solely through the draft.
also don't forget a weak pass blocking, I understand were you are coming form but the price and what other holes we have and the system we play does not look good at all. If we are a boat, and we have 4 holes, great we patched done guess what we're still leaking adn likely goign down