My McVay/Rams theory

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Pe has been spouting it for a long long while re Goff.

Is your point that Pe stole Tical’s idea about Wilson and put it on Goff?
 

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RedAlice":hcldq1cc said:
Pe has been spouting it for a long long while re Goff.

Is your point that Pe stole Tical’s idea about Wilson and put it on Goff?
Not saying he stole anything, just saying I think Tical was the first one to propose that idea on .NET.
 

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The concept of the generic QB on a rookie deal leading his team to heaven and being a replaceable cog?

That’s probably as old as dirt in concept, wishes and mirages.

Pehawk is specifically applying a theory.

I no longer thing he’s right. But I do think he’s the first to so exactly state it all over the Internet.
 

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No. I'm saying, Tical floated the idea to let Wilson go and NOT pay him, while he was still on his rookie deal.
 

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It was clearly stated as a theory.

I guess only on .NET would bringing Wilson into a theory about Goff make sense.
 

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RolandDeschain":3h8fnfdl said:
RedAlice":3h8fnfdl said:
Pe has been spouting it for a long long while re Goff.

Is your point that Pe stole Tical’s idea about Wilson and put it on Goff?
Not saying he stole anything, just saying I think Tical was the first one to propose that idea on .NET.
I recall SpinDoctor saying something also..
I do know there were a few of us who agreed on this
from way back..I'm not alone :irishdrinkers:
I hope the Rams do it Alice..The cycle has to be ended.
 
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For sure it's not an original idea but no one has had the balls to do it.

I've theorized since McVays first offseason this was what he was going to do it. McVay would be the first to do it. Which is what Red Alice is saying I was first about.
 

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When's goffs contract up?

They'd be picking in the back end of rounds, making it a bit more difficult.

Not sure Goff himself is worth the big contract
McVay is the MvP there
 
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Uncle Si":3p6ybdlf said:
When's goffs contract up?

They'd be picking in the back end of rounds, making it a bit more difficult.

Not sure Goff himself is worth the big contract
McVay is the MvP there

I think after this year.

I don't even think they need a first round type. I think even a lesser round guy, who's smart and can throw over the middle, could succeed. A Minshew type would work. Or a 3rd or 4th round type.
 

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pehawk":2e5frn8t said:
Uncle Si":2e5frn8t said:
When's goffs contract up?

They'd be picking in the back end of rounds, making it a bit more difficult.

Not sure Goff himself is worth the big contract
McVay is the MvP there

I think after this year.

I don't even think they need a first round type. I think even a lesser round guy, who's smart and can throw over the middle, could succeed. A Minshew type would work. Or a 3rd or 4th round type.

Minshew is a good shout. Strong arm, 4 year player, smart and was pretty successful but undervalued in the draft.

Not sure Goff had a better resume coming out of college.
 

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RedAlice":3aj3i1rt said:
The concept of the generic QB on a rookie deal leading his team to heaven and being a replaceable cog?

That’s probably as old as dirt in concept, wishes and mirages.

Actually, it's probably no older than the current NFLPA contract. Remember the old days, when every newly-drafted QB was automatically the highest-paid player in the league?
 

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pehawk":1mrcspkp said:
May want to check again, Si.

Which part?

Goffs resume out of college, or Minshews ability? Maybe they hype was higher on Goff than I remember... or care to


Maybe underrating one or overrating the other to be fair.
 
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Minshews arm strength and the 4 year starter statement. Neither is true. Minshew was a back up 4 years.

His lack of arm strength would definetly cause McVay to dial some stuff back. But, if ever given a player like Minshew, McVay would most likely adopt some of Pederson's RPOs. And the the offense wouldnt miss a beat.

I think McVay could adjust and succeed with anyone.
 

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pehawk":p1zjimia said:
Minshews arm strength and the 4 year starter statement. Neither is true. Minshew was a back up 4 years.

His lack of arm strength would definetly cause McVay to dial some stuff back. But, if ever given a player like Minshew, McVay would most likely adopt some of Pederson's RPOs. And the the offense wouldnt miss a beat.

I think McVay could adjust and succeed with anyone.

Didn't say a 4 year starter... just a 4 year player... meaning he was older and coached longer in college. Maybe that's not a big deal at the QB position.

I thought Minshews was lauded for his arm strength at WSU? Better than Browning at least.

Still... you're right with McVay.
 
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Gothcya.

You're arm is better than Browning, tbf.
 

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GeekHawk":3shlwte9 said:
RedAlice":3shlwte9 said:
The concept of the generic QB on a rookie deal leading his team to heaven and being a replaceable cog?

That’s probably as old as dirt in concept, wishes and mirages.

Actually, it's probably no older than the current NFLPA contract. Remember the old days, when every newly-drafted QB was automatically the highest-paid player in the league?

Are you asking me if I remember the nightmare of B?

I do sir.
 
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