Boykin Arrested!

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ringless":2u2ki870 said:
HawkGA":2u2ki870 said:
I've only seen snippets of info but I won't let that stop me from weighing in . . . . in the little I know, I have a hard time seeing a problem here. He wasn't driving the car. He "might" have been drunk so he was arrested? Is that seriously what all of this is based on? There was a joint somewhere in the car? This sounds to me like more of a case of over aggressive policing (not over aggressive use of force, just an over aggressive "hey, I can throw you in jail so I will".). Jail should be for people we are afraid of, not people we are mad at.

Nobody seems to be bringing up the fact that 8 people were injured. That is a huge deal! It doesn't matter if he was driving or not, he participated in that decision. He was a part of it, and he could've made a smarter choice. 7 of those 8 people were hospitalized. To me that's the biggest part of it all. He played an active role in the outcome. He is an undrafted player, with minimal NFL experience and can be easily replaced and likely will be not just because of his role, but that he has had 2 arrests in 3 years. I remember when a star player named Aldon Smith was having a few issues with the law and hit a tree. People made a big deal. Well this is a bigger one, 7 people went to the hospital. Seattle should just cut bait and move on. All they are losing is an undrafted, backup, who clearly has judgement issues. Even if you can get past the fact that 8 people were injured, he still had possession of marijuana in a state that it is illegal to possess it. He still violated his probation no matter what in that sense. He played a role in a DUI. He played a role that led to be someone's son, daughters, husband, and wives ending up in the hospital that night.


About 95% of the hawk fans in this thread agree with you about Boykin being a complete moron.

Not sure this is an "opposing fan needs to help take the blinders off the homers" situation.

We are ripping him plenty on our own.
 

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Does not matter if Pot is legal in Washington. A condition of employment( a high paying job in the NFL) is that you do not participate in pot. Does not matter if you like it or not. I have a good paying job in Washington State and I have to give hair samples for drug testing. If they find pot in my system, I lose my job. Boykin is an idiot for putting his career in trouble because he is not smart enough to stay away from pot
 

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[tweet]https://twitter.com/bcondotta/status/846520531138490368[/tweet]

I would think lawyer and public relations guys to huddle tonight and tomorrow. Expectations are for a spin cycle to kick in next.
 

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pmedic920":11alv0i3 said:
King Dog":11alv0i3 said:
Out of the car long hair!


Beastie Boys reference

Beastie boys?

Lol :{)

Come on man, give credit where it's due.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_Mama_Don't_Dance

King Dog":11alv0i3 said:
I did! You didn't scroll down far enough :)

King Dog":11alv0i3 said:
Oops. Sorry PMedic. Damn kids :)

pmedic920":11alv0i3 said:
King Dog":11alv0i3 said:
Oops. Sorry PMedic. Damn kids :)

So K.
You were close, just off by a couple years.

What in hell are you two talking about? The quote is from a Beastie Boys song, not Kenny friggin Loggins.

High Plains Drifter

Beastie Boys

The cop knocked on my window and said "Boy, where's the fire?"
You got a mailbox on your bumper and a bald front tire"
"Outta the car longhair!" Your goose is cooked
Read me my rights, fingerprinted and booked
 

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Comical...Beastie Boys sampled the Loggins & Messina tune for High Plains Drifter. Hell, even Poison covered it before the Beastie Boys sampled it.
 

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hawknation2017":10kvf7y8 said:
Says he was a passenger, not the driver. There's a chance he won't be prosecuted. I'll reserve judgment until we hear more facts.

Exactly. Plus, he was high on marijuana, which isn't illegal where he plays and lives half the year. The other issue is public intoxiction, which is a bullshit infraction half the time anyways. A cop can give you a ticket for that for his very subjective observation of whether he thinks you were even slightly impaired. Seriously, 80 % of the people leaving a bar can get public intoxication as soon as they hit the sidewalk.

The only problem I see arising from this is his probation violation.
 

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I can't predict what the Hawks will do but I imagine he's not a long term solution for backup QB. I'd personally sign Popaki to a 1 year deal. Doubt he's interested though.

Smoking pot in a state where it's illegal or cohorting with people doing it while you are on probation in same state is really stupid. Of course getting into a car with someone who is driving while intoxicated is even more stupid. The Hawks don't need a stupid backup QB.
 

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Seanhawk":14qs1y59 said:
Comical...Beastie Boys sampled the Loggins & Messina tune for High Plains Drifter. Hell, even Poison covered it before the Beastie Boys sampled it.

King Dog":14qs1y59 said:
Out of the car long hair!

Beastie Boys reference

And this is why you do not do research off of one persons quote.
 

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Hawks46":22oajb25 said:
hawknation2017":22oajb25 said:
Says he was a passenger, not the driver. There's a chance he won't be prosecuted. I'll reserve judgment until we hear more facts.

Exactly. Plus, he was high on marijuana, which isn't illegal where he plays and lives half the year. The other issue is public intoxiction, which is a bullshit infraction half the time anyways. A cop can give you a ticket for that for his very subjective observation of whether he thinks you were even slightly impaired. Seriously, 80 % of the people leaving a bar can get public intoxication as soon as they hit the sidewalk.

The only problem I see arising from this is his probation violation.

People go to jail for this. What is your point?
 

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ringless":12rcgbce said:
HawkGA":12rcgbce said:
I've only seen snippets of info but I won't let that stop me from weighing in . . . . in the little I know, I have a hard time seeing a problem here. He wasn't driving the car. He "might" have been drunk so he was arrested? Is that seriously what all of this is based on? There was a joint somewhere in the car? This sounds to me like more of a case of over aggressive policing (not over aggressive use of force, just an over aggressive "hey, I can throw you in jail so I will".). Jail should be for people we are afraid of, not people we are mad at.

Nobody seems to be bringing up the fact that 8 people were injured. That is a huge deal! It doesn't matter if he was driving or not, he participated in that decision. He was a part of it, and he could've made a smarter choice. 7 of those 8 people were hospitalized. To me that's the biggest part of it all. He played an active role in the outcome. He is an undrafted player, with minimal NFL experience and can be easily replaced and likely will be not just because of his role, but that he has had 2 arrests in 3 years. I remember when a star player named Aldon Smith was having a few issues with the law and hit a tree. People made a big deal. Well this is a bigger one, 7 people went to the hospital. Seattle should just cut bait and move on. All they are losing is an undrafted, backup, who clearly has judgement issues. Even if you can get past the fact that 8 people were injured, he still had possession of marijuana in a state that it is illegal to possess it. He still violated his probation no matter what in that sense. He played a role in a DUI. He played a role that led to be someone's son, daughters, husband, and wives ending up in the hospital that night.

I would think not being the driver would be a big deal. But maybe I'm crazy.
 

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HawkGA":2vqanlzg said:
ringless":2vqanlzg said:
HawkGA":2vqanlzg said:
I've only seen snippets of info but I won't let that stop me from weighing in . . . . in the little I know, I have a hard time seeing a problem here. He wasn't driving the car. He "might" have been drunk so he was arrested? Is that seriously what all of this is based on? There was a joint somewhere in the car? This sounds to me like more of a case of over aggressive policing (not over aggressive use of force, just an over aggressive "hey, I can throw you in jail so I will".). Jail should be for people we are afraid of, not people we are mad at.

Nobody seems to be bringing up the fact that 8 people were injured. That is a huge deal! It doesn't matter if he was driving or not, he participated in that decision. He was a part of it, and he could've made a smarter choice. 7 of those 8 people were hospitalized. To me that's the biggest part of it all. He played an active role in the outcome. He is an undrafted player, with minimal NFL experience and can be easily replaced and likely will be not just because of his role, but that he has had 2 arrests in 3 years. I remember when a star player named Aldon Smith was having a few issues with the law and hit a tree. People made a big deal. Well this is a bigger one, 7 people went to the hospital. Seattle should just cut bait and move on. All they are losing is an undrafted, backup, who clearly has judgement issues. Even if you can get past the fact that 8 people were injured, he still had possession of marijuana in a state that it is illegal to possess it. He still violated his probation no matter what in that sense. He played a role in a DUI. He played a role that led to be someone's son, daughters, husband, and wives ending up in the hospital that night.

I would think not being the driver would be a big deal. But maybe I'm crazy.

If you are not on probation
 

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HawkGA":157cqidx said:
ringless":157cqidx said:
HawkGA":157cqidx said:
I've only seen snippets of info but I won't let that stop me from weighing in . . . . in the little I know, I have a hard time seeing a problem here. He wasn't driving the car. He "might" have been drunk so he was arrested? Is that seriously what all of this is based on? There was a joint somewhere in the car? This sounds to me like more of a case of over aggressive policing (not over aggressive use of force, just an over aggressive "hey, I can throw you in jail so I will".). Jail should be for people we are afraid of, not people we are mad at.

Nobody seems to be bringing up the fact that 8 people were injured. That is a huge deal! It doesn't matter if he was driving or not, he participated in that decision. He was a part of it, and he could've made a smarter choice. 7 of those 8 people were hospitalized. To me that's the biggest part of it all. He played an active role in the outcome. He is an undrafted player, with minimal NFL experience and can be easily replaced and likely will be not just because of his role, but that he has had 2 arrests in 3 years. I remember when a star player named Aldon Smith was having a few issues with the law and hit a tree. People made a big deal. Well this is a bigger one, 7 people went to the hospital. Seattle should just cut bait and move on. All they are losing is an undrafted, backup, who clearly has judgement issues. Even if you can get past the fact that 8 people were injured, he still had possession of marijuana in a state that it is illegal to possess it. He still violated his probation no matter what in that sense. He played a role in a DUI. He played a role that led to be someone's son, daughters, husband, and wives ending up in the hospital that night.

I would think not being the driver would be a big deal. But maybe I'm crazy.

No argument.
 

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warden":24f4ezhy said:
Does not matter if Pot is legal in Washington. A condition of employment( a high paying job in the NFL) is that you do not participate in pot. Does not matter if you like it or not. I have a good paying job in Washington State and I have to give hair samples for drug testing. If they find pot in my system, I lose my job. Boykin is an idiot for putting his career in trouble because he is not smart enough to stay away from pot

My WA employer has a similar condition attached to my employment. Additionally, it's still against federal law to smoke it in this state, although the feds have opted not to prosecute citizens in WA. That's one of the reasons why I voted against the pot law in WA, because it would confuse a whole lot of people.

I wouldn't write off Boykin just yet. IMO the Hawks will wait and let the court system do their jobs first, but it would only make sense for us to start the search for a backup. Personally, I don't want anything to do with that jackwagon Krapperdick and if he had his choice, he probably wouldn't want to come here anyway as he won't get a chance to compete for a starting job, although he may not be in a position to pick and choose as teams haven't been anxious to bring him in due to his baggage.

There's a lot of veteran QB's out there with starting experience looking for jobs. Not too many with SB experience, but I doubt that Kaep's one trip to the SB will be a deal maker for him:

Jay Cutler, Ryan Fitzpatrick, RG3, Chase Daniel, Case Keenum, Shawn Hill, Matt McGloin, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder.
 
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