SantaClaraHawk
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If that's true about Geno it'll become apparent in camp.
I mean, why not kick the tires?
I mean, why not kick the tires?
Part of being a good coach and a good leader is also being a good politician. in order to keep peace you say what is popular, not what you necessarily believe. Team unity is vitally important to field a successful team. Smile, say nice things, don't make waves, and go play football. I'm seeing that example being played out throughout the league and beyond.SantaClaraHawk":3vm5k5m2 said:I find Pete's interview a little disingenuous because on one hand he's talking about how great Kaep was in 2017-18 and how he wished he'd had a role, but now it's that Geno "really does things we like" and they're good football wise. Serious question, has Geno played a single down for us? His team didn't advance when he was the starter with the Jets.
This post should end the discussion.AgentDib":2tu46xv5 said:We already brought Kaep in for a look at the backup spot. He wasn't interested in backup QB salary and then named us in his lawsuit.
Nothing has changed since then and this remains a political discussion rather than a football discussion.
hawk45":20u7xj1i said:This post should end the discussion.AgentDib":20u7xj1i said:We already brought Kaep in for a look at the backup spot. He wasn't interested in backup QB salary and then named us in his lawsuit.
Nothing has changed since then and this remains a political discussion rather than a football discussion.
CPHawk":1h814u73 said:I'm not convinced Kaep wants to be a backup. I've always felt he wants paid bigger money, and a real shot as a starter.
SantaClaraHawk":3qy81asl said:CPHawk":3qy81asl said:I'm not convinced Kaep wants to be a backup. I've always felt he wants paid bigger money, and a real shot as a starter.
There is no way to know if Kaep wants to be a backup or take vet min until someone invites him. It bothers me that everyone's saying "someone" should take a chance, but then find reasons why that "someone" shouldn't be them.
HawkRiderFan":bplxm8fu said:One problem for a team signing Kap now is you are pressured to keep him no matter what. Even if he doesn’t perform imagine the backlash if you release him.
Am I not remembering correctly or didn’t Denver offer him a contract a couple of yrs ago and he declined.
This exactly the reason kap won't be signing anywhere. he better than any of us realize the very real possibility that he can't make a roster and would be completely humiliated. Get more notoriety , better pay, notoriety being a trouble maker, and it keeps his g/f happy, the one who leads him around by the nose.HawkRiderFan":23gakxa0 said:One problem for a team signing Kap now is you are pressured to keep him no matter what. Even if he doesn’t perform imagine the backlash if you release him.
Am I not remembering correctly or didn’t Denver offer him a contract a couple of yrs ago and he declined.
Yes but what is your response to the fact that the one team that tried him out ended up named in his lawsuit? Why would any team sign up for that, let alone our team who was burned?SantaClaraHawk":3iu0rpsw said:hawk45":3iu0rpsw said:This post should end the discussion.AgentDib":3iu0rpsw said:We already brought Kaep in for a look at the backup spot. He wasn't interested in backup QB salary and then named us in his lawsuit.
Nothing has changed since then and this remains a political discussion rather than a football discussion.
One thing that the whole anthem situation and the pandemic situation has informed is that politics, like public health, bleeds into sports. It always is a melting pot. The City of Santa Clara and the 49ers have been warring about politics for years and it has been discussed without "politics! warning" for years.
The other thing is that that even if informed by politics, this remains a football discussion. Let's face it that Geno's nowhere near a Bridgewater. He's just another meh starter from 2016 that unlike Kaep never did anything with his team. The one thing he does have is that he has been on a team consistently even though he hasn't thrown since 2018.
The cost to bring in Kaep for a tryout would be basically airfare, hotel and whatever stipend if anything is normally offered in these situations.
hawk45":3esl1nqj said:Yes but what is your response to the fact that the one team that tried him out ended up named in his lawsuit? Why would any team sign up for that, let alone our team who was burned?SantaClaraHawk":3esl1nqj said:hawk45":3esl1nqj said:This post should end the discussion.AgentDib":3esl1nqj said:We already brought Kaep in for a look at the backup spot. He wasn't interested in backup QB salary and then named us in his lawsuit.
Nothing has changed since then and this remains a political discussion rather than a football discussion.
One thing that the whole anthem situation and the pandemic situation has informed is that politics, like public health, bleeds into sports. It always is a melting pot. The City of Santa Clara and the 49ers have been warring about politics for years and it has been discussed without "politics! warning" for years.
The other thing is that that even if informed by politics, this remains a football discussion. Let's face it that Geno's nowhere near a Bridgewater. He's just another meh starter from 2016 that unlike Kaep never did anything with his team. The one thing he does have is that he has been on a team consistently even though he hasn't thrown since 2018.
The cost to bring in Kaep for a tryout would be basically airfare, hotel and whatever stipend if anything is normally offered in these situations.
If he wanted to play he wouldn’t have named the hawks, no?
SantaClaraHawk":fyznnfga said:The 49ers tried to trade him to the Broncos in 2015. They had him out and decided that what he wanted as a starter wasn't worth it.
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SantaClaraHawk":iv23hjvk said:So from Florio...
The team’s entire flirtation with Kaepernick remains odd. In 2017, he was too good to sign. In 2018, he needed a workout before he could be signed. The truth may be (is) that, in 2017, the organization was concerned that some of the players who were on the roster at the time would be inclined to agitate for Kaepernick to replace Russell Wilson as the starter. By 2018, the organization made a hard pivot toward clearing out any remaining anti-Russell players, which would have made it easier to avoid a schism over whether Wilson or Kaepernick should play, if Kaepernick had been signed to serve as Wilson’s No. 2.
Even now, Kaepernick clearly would be an upgrade over Geno Smith as the backup to Wilson. Kaepernick also would be better than the current backup (and/or a better fit as the starter’s understudy) in places like Buffalo, New England, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Houston, Jacksonville, Tennessee, L.A. (Chargers and Rams), Denver, Kansas City, Washington, Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota, Atlanta, Carolina, and Arizona.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... to-action/
SantaClaraHawk":2s2159km said:hawk45":2s2159km said:Yes but what is your response to the fact that the one team that tried him out ended up named in his lawsuit? Why would any team sign up for that, let alone our team who was burned?SantaClaraHawk":2s2159km said:hawk45":2s2159km said:This post should end the discussion.
One thing that the whole anthem situation and the pandemic situation has informed is that politics, like public health, bleeds into sports. It always is a melting pot. The City of Santa Clara and the 49ers have been warring about politics for years and it has been discussed without "politics! warning" for years.
The other thing is that that even if informed by politics, this remains a football discussion. Let's face it that Geno's nowhere near a Bridgewater. He's just another meh starter from 2016 that unlike Kaep never did anything with his team. The one thing he does have is that he has been on a team consistently even though he hasn't thrown since 2018.
The cost to bring in Kaep for a tryout would be basically airfare, hotel and whatever stipend if anything is normally offered in these situations.
If he wanted to play he wouldn’t have named the hawks, no?
First, the 49ers are the only team who released that starter because of things that routinely happen when teams get nervous about said starters. The relationship was on its way out over a protracted of time. They brought in at least two rotations of QB whisperers and HCs to try to resurrect Kaep into what they envisioned.
But that happens with people around the league. Player-team relations regularly burn out for whatever reason after both sides tried and that player ends up moving on, usually to another team. It's not like we are in the position of the 49ers either with their backup QB room consisting of players who played QB for them in an actual game for them. We have a backup who has never done that, and as his backup we have a UDFA who may but probably not do anything in camp.
PC is implying heavily in recent interviews that the 2017-18 Hawk discussions fell apart over Kaep's want to be a starter and/or get paid starter money. Moreover, PC said he was very impressed with him from seeing him at that time. There would be no QB competition or starter talk at this time.