Drafting o-line

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HawkGA":1rss8qpg said:
Largent80":1rss8qpg said:
Pete chose Cable as his line coach so if you have issues with Cable then you also have issues with Pete.

This is such a lame argument. If you have a problem with Pete then you must have a problem with Paul Allen then, right? People can have faults or flaws but still be good on the whole.


If I have a problem with Paul Allen does that mean I have a problem with Microsoft?
 

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HawkGA":12qu100v said:
Largent80":12qu100v said:
Pete chose Cable as his line coach so if you have issues with Cable then you also have issues with Pete.

This is such a lame argument.

It's not an argument, it is simple fact. Cable is Pete's guy. Pete is Allen's guy. Did that help you any?

You can't polish newbie turds no matter WHO you are. I would say that coming into a ZBS after not being anywhere near one would produce the results you are seeing.
 

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HawkGA":2ckko982 said:
It feels like working in Cable's system is a 3 year learning curve. Given contracts and free agency, it just doesn't make sense to draft somebody for Cable to work with almost to the point they contract is up. Pete needs to find an OL coach who can do more with the talent he's given right away. There simply isn't enough time to develop OL the way Cable seems to need to.


This is the problem. PC is still trying to use the college formula with rookies where he has them only for three to five years and then they leave. The only problem is that in this league you don't have the luxury of waiting that long and expect to really compete and win championships. He needs to treat the O-Line in the same way as he does his vaunted defense.

Develop and then keep the core O-line players together to build and maintain consistency. This is the only way that RW will not only thrive, but more importantly survive in the long term. Right now RW will be out of this league in no more than 5 more years because of injury or the David Carr syndrome.

I would personally sacrifice some of our defensive performance for a consistent, above average O-Line play to balance out the team.

Perhaps PC doesn't give a damn about that, but we and mostly Paul Allen should.
 

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kf3339":1ch40opl said:
HawkGA":1ch40opl said:
It feels like working in Cable's system is a 3 year learning curve. Given contracts and free agency, it just doesn't make sense to draft somebody for Cable to work with almost to the point they contract is up. Pete needs to find an OL coach who can do more with the talent he's given right away. There simply isn't enough time to develop OL the way Cable seems to need to.


This is the problem. PC is still trying to use the college formula with rookies where he has them only for three to five years and then they leave. The only problem is that in this league you don't have the luxury of waiting that long and expect to really compete and win championships. He needs to treat the O-Line in the same way as he does his vaunted defense.

Develop and then keep the core O-line players together to build and maintain consistency. This is the only way that RW will not only thrive, but more importantly survive in the long term. Right now RW will be out of this league in no more than 5 more years because of injury or the David Carr syndrome.

I would personally sacrifice some of our defensive performance for a consistent, above average O-Line play to balance out the team.

Perhaps PC doesn't give a damn about that, but we and mostly Paul Allen should.

To be consistent you have to keep them around more then 2 yrs, that's been our biggest issue, they never work together as a group at the same positions, they are in constant learning curve mode.
 

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Were in serious jeopardy of wasting our franchise QB's career as a guy that can get us to and win superbowls.

It needs to be stopped NOW. Get a Friggin GRIP and give RW some god damned protection.

Don't throw Walgreens FA band aids into the mix. Sowell and Webb?....They played as hideous as their signings were.

Get a top tier OL or draft properly for RT and hope Fant is the LT of the future. Were winning so we will never get a stud LT with our draft position.
 
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