chris98251
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John63":28rw44y5 said:chris98251":28rw44y5 said:TwistedHusky":28rw44y5 said:If I am Wilson's agent, I save this game as an example to Wilson that he might get some 4th quarter heroics but under Pete he is never going to win big games in the playoffs - because he is very rarely going to get the opportunity.
Wilson is probably a better QB than his record in the playoffs indicate.
But he is often put in difficult situations to get out of, or not given the chance in the first place.
Wilson with a team that used him as their lead horse, would probably go a lot farther.
The thing Pete forgets is that while that blueprint works during the regular season - you are facing bad opponents in at least half your game. The top teams in the playoffs cannot just be beaten by an 'out-athlete the other guy' strategy unless you are loaded with HOF players (like we were). But they can be beaten by a great QB that gets hot at the right time, this is why everyone was so worried about guys like Aaron Rodgers making the playoffs.
As they said, all you have to do is make the playoffs. But not if you won't use your QB.
Not using Wilson and running the ball repeatedly (with freaking Mike Davis?) in the 2nd half is the equivalent of trying to do a sacrifice bunt with Ken Griffey Jr. It might work, but it robs you of a hell of a lot of upside.
I still think Wilson does not extend, and reasons like this are why. He could go to a loaded team and carry them - to become a hero. But he is criminally underused here. Either the HC does not trust him, or the HC is old and tired clinging to an old and tired philosophy that won't work against the better defenses in the playoffs.
The narrative of that game after the game is that Pete failed Wilson by failing to use him. We will see if Wilson or his agent ends up bothered later because of it. I know if I knew the guy I would be telling him that his coaches let him down on this one. I imagine the people that know him now are saying the same thing as the media is saying right now.
Getting beat outright is one thing but we were ridiculously conservative with a freaking 4 point lead in a playoff game. We didn't even get a sense of urgency until it was far too late because we played that game as if we expected the defense not to give up scores. Average defenses get scored on, that is why you need to score points in all 4 quarters.
Thats one narritive, another is one where they adapted the offense to his skill set, he still needs some pieces to exploit aspects like a big target. His height limits his quick throws on quick slants, they roll him out and allow hom to use his legs to make plays here, many others would not and in fact still frown on the mobile QB. You want numbers 5000 passing yards etc, thats not going to happen with Wilson regularly. Pete tries to use the skill sets of his players and puts them in a position of what the do best, Wilson is given that. Many Coaches want a player to adapt to what they want which may not be what that player does well.
Wilson is in a situation that works with his skill set, you may be able to send him to Oakland / Miami / Tampa Bay / Buffalo / Arizona / New York Jets and or Giants . Seems those teams have had a lot of QB turn over and or have not been able to have a QB that transcends to the top of the list of the league. This is while they have turned over Head Coaches, OC's and a truck load of players. You have to look at how they run their organzations and who dictates what to be consistenly having problems. Sending a player like Wilson to be a savior will likely continue that level of futility and just make him the new Scapegoat. I think Wilson knows this as well if he is as self aware as he appears.
So the first narrative is something that is a fact because we see it time and time again. The 2nd narrative is a what if, with a lot of unsubstantiated things such as the height issue which while we can guess we really don't know. I could also argue with some fact to support it that he has not adapted the offense to Wilson at all, except for latter 2015. Which brings us the point in latter 2015 we saw an offense that was explosive, fast, we saw slants, we saw it all. That was because we had to, with no run game. As soon as PC could he went back to his run at all cost offense which is not built for Wilson and in fact, is basically the same offense he ran with Tjack, and in college. In fact, if he had really adapted to Wilson we would have an oline that has pass blockers as well, instead, every oline are known as run blockers. We have seen Wilson do well in PC offense and in the 2015 offense which was more like a real NFL passing offense. So narrative 2 is a very unlikely What if, with most fo the facts supporting the first narrative.
Not what iff if you watched the damn games over the years the changes made are apparent, also if you look at the history of players changing teams who dissapear in other systems it is also not what if. Wilson may leave and make all you naysayers and negative Nancy's happy as shit in a warm pot, kind of like When Hass went to the Colts and we had Whitehurst and then TJack then Flynn as our next QB's those all made a huge impact, how could we have let them all go or replace them.
Ask Sweezy how glorious his time in Tampa was, or Maxwell in Philly.
I am sure we could go get Jake Browning, he will probably fall to the 3rd or 4th round and he won at UW and would be cheap to satisfy all of you wanting to move on from Wilson.