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Sgt. Largent":my9z1hxh said:scrummymustard":my9z1hxh said:Sgt. Largent":my9z1hxh said:I guess we need to define "top tier."
If it's top 10 TE's in the NFL? Yeah he probably squeaks in there. But if it's top 5? Nope, not even close for me.
Guys like Gronk, Kelce, Ertz, Olsen, Walker, etc are dynamic route runners, playmakers with exceptional hands that can take over a game.
I don't think Graham's been that since New Orleans. He wanders out into his routes, drops balls, and is too easily flustered and frustrated...........which takes him out of long stretches of games.
Not sure why we even keep talking about Graham, he's gone.
But you're also missing....none of those players would be the same in this system, with this OL. System fit is paramount for production, and none would put up the same stats here they do on their teams.
There has never been a TE that has ever received 100 targets in Hawks history. All the players you named, receive 100, 110, 120, 130 targets a year, depending on the year. Only 1 of them has ever had double digits TDs in a single year in their careers, Gronk, 5x.
For as much disappointment that he receives around here, Graham holds essentially every single TE Seahawks receiving record (both single season and cumulative) in what amounts to only 2.5 seasons.
Who knows if he'll be back, but his time with the Hawks isn't as bad as many are making out.
Our system and poor O-line has nothing to do with how Jimmy runs routes, mopes when he doesn't get the ball or disappears for entire games because he got hit hard on a crossing route.
Fantastic athlete that needs to be in a finesse system, that ain't here.
Soooo, we agree, he's not a system fit? And as bad as that fit was, he still is the most productive TE in Hawks history? Not bad for someone who disappears for entire games and mopes around all the time. Yea, a super bowl wasn't in play for 2017, but it isn't for 31 teams.
The stats don't lie; Graham put up never before seen numbers from the TE position in new Orleans, that has yet to be duplicated. Then came here, did the same thing (albeit to a smaller extent than new Orleans). He's a great player, in the wrong offense, being used incorrectly.
The failure of 2017 offense is on the OL, and it wasn't for lack of investment: a $9M LT, $8M LG, $9M C, 2nd Rd RG & 1st Rd RT.
I get it, a Zach Miller type TE is a better fit for this offense, but does anyone really think the 2017 season changes with him instead of 88? We couldn't run the ball due to the OL, not because we didn't have a blocking TE.