.net temp..Where will Russ cook next year?

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1) Seahawks - Pete isn't going to trade him unless totally blown away by an offer. Wilson will have to hold out to get his way, which he won't.

2) Raiders - The Raiders have the assets to get something done and Gruden absolutely loves him. I think the Seahawks would prefer to deal him to an AFC team.

3) Saints - The cap is a joke, money can always be moved around. The Saints have players and decent picks to offer. Mickey Loomis and Co. do not have a problem with being aggressive when it comes to wheeling and dealing.

4) Bears - Desirable scheme, great defense. Their offensive personnel kind of sucks, especially if they lose Robinson who is an amazing WR. But the Bears are absolutely desperate for a franchise QB, and would be willing to potentially pay out the nose for one.

5) Cowboys - Jerruh would have to find a way to swing something with Dak, but at that point they might as well just stick with Dak. Tag him and trade him, along with some picks, I guess.

 

[GaiusMarius]

I'm not sure in what world you guys think John and Pete would be OK with absorbing a 39M cap hit by trading Wilson this year, no matter what other teams offered.

You'd basically be just throwing in the towel on the entire 2021 season having a 39M hit against a 180M cap.

You're also not taking into consideration 3 of the 4 teams Wilson listed are either over or right up against the cap themselves for 2021. So taking on Russell's contract would also be next to impossible for the Saints, Cowboys or Raiders.

I agree that there would be a white flag aspect to such a trade.

However, if there are "unreconcilable differences" between the front office and Wilson I don't think you keep an unhappy QB regardless of the cap hit for 2021. I do not see our leverage increasing next offseason if the dye is cast. That is the part that is murky. Can the Seahawks make Wilson happy? If not, that really puts them in a bind irrespective of the cap hits.

You believe they are more likely to let their franchise QB walk and eat a dead cap hit like what they would face?

If they surrender and trade him and have cap issues and presumably don’t get a Wilson level QB in return, they become a losing team. How is that superior than dealing with a disgruntled Wilson? Especially since if they win, which it’s likely they will based on recent history, Wilson’s feelings may very well adjust.

You’d have to believe that Wilson would refuse to play or become a cancer to advance the viewpoint that they *must* trade a dissatisfied Wilson at all costs.

Is that the read you are making in Wilson? That’s...not my read of Wilson.

My essential read is that the prospects of an unhappy QB can be devastating to a franchise. If the coach is not going to go (like happened with the Packers). I get it, you're thinking they'll just play through it or if there isn't a hold out everything is just fine. That's not my take. When this team was much stronger chemistry issues torpedoed success and that wasn't directly involving the QB. I do not underestimate the detriment of having an unhappy QB on the team. I understand the position that others do not see that as big of a deal as I do.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I'm not sure in what world you guys think John and Pete would be OK with absorbing a 39M cap hit by trading Wilson this year, no matter what other teams offered.

You'd basically be just throwing in the towel on the entire 2021 season having a 39M hit against a 180M cap.

You're also not taking into consideration 3 of the 4 teams Wilson listed are either over or right up against the cap themselves for 2021. So taking on Russell's contract would also be next to impossible for the Saints, Cowboys or Raiders.

I agree that there would be a white flag aspect to such a trade.

However, if there are "unreconcilable differences" between the front office and Wilson I don't think you keep an unhappy QB regardless of the cap hit for 2021. I do not see our leverage increasing next offseason if the dye is cast. That is the part that is murky. Can the Seahawks make Wilson happy? If not, that really puts them in a bind irrespective of the cap hits.

I don't think it'll ever get to the contentious irreconcilable differences stage.

Russell's unhappy, and he's letting the team know through the media (because I assume he's already let Pete and John know privately) so that they take his threats of leaving seriously enough to make whatever changes personnel wise or philosophically in order to keep him longer than just this year.

That's what this is, it's not as drastic as people are making it out to be. Russell's a baller and competitor, I can't ever imagine a time where he wouldn't strap it up and play for him and his teammates.

This all spells he's not going anywhere this off season.

 

[hawk45]

I'm not sure in what world you guys think John and Pete would be OK with absorbing a 39M cap hit by trading Wilson this year, no matter what other teams offered.

You'd basically be just throwing in the towel on the entire 2021 season having a 39M hit against a 180M cap.

You're also not taking into consideration 3 of the 4 teams Wilson listed are either over or right up against the cap themselves for 2021. So taking on Russell's contract would also be next to impossible for the Saints, Cowboys or Raiders.

I agree that there would be a white flag aspect to such a trade.

However, if there are "unreconcilable differences" between the front office and Wilson I don't think you keep an unhappy QB regardless of the cap hit for 2021. I do not see our leverage increasing next offseason if the dye is cast. That is the part that is murky. Can the Seahawks make Wilson happy? If not, that really puts them in a bind irrespective of the cap hits.

You believe they are more likely to let their franchise QB walk and eat a dead cap hit like what they would face?

If they surrender and trade him and have cap issues and presumably don’t get a Wilson level QB in return, they become a losing team. How is that superior than dealing with a disgruntled Wilson? Especially since if they win, which it’s likely they will based on recent history, Wilson’s feelings may very well adjust.

You’d have to believe that Wilson would refuse to play or become a cancer to advance the viewpoint that they *must* trade a dissatisfied Wilson at all costs.

Is that the read you are making in Wilson? That’s...not my read of Wilson.

My essential read is that the prospects of an unhappy QB can be devastating to a franchise. If the coach is not going to go (like happened with the Packers). I get it, you're thinking they'll just play through it or if there isn't a hold out everything is just fine. That's not my take. When this team was much stronger chemistry issues torpedoed success and that wasn't directly involving the QB. I do not underestimate the detriment of having an unhappy QB on the team. I understand the position that others do not see that as big of a deal as I do.

You make a good point about past chemistry and the effect it had. I think you can more easily move unhappy players at about any position but QB, and that Wilson doesn’t have the malcontent quotient that a Richard Sherman does (or close to it really), but I get where you’re coming from. Cheers.

 

[Cyrus12]

I think one thing is being overlooked is where his wife wants to go. I'd guess Vegas would top her list.

 

[IndyHawk]

What amazes me is people who can't see Russ is not the same Russ
that could hide weak parts of his game with scrambling and throwing
off script..
Now that he can't do it anywhere close to what he used to he is exposed.
Blaming very little of himself but a lot on others...
"I need a good OL,I need an offense to suit me and I need weapons on offense"
Most anyone who blames others is themselves the problem.
So go ahead RW nuthuggers and fanboys you would love to keep him as he keeps
getting older and slower but I saw this coming and I have seen this with other
QB's...Father time is undefeated and no way is he making it to 40. :lol: :177692:

 

[FresnoHawk52]

Russ did us a favor giving us that list, I’m sure John & Pete are happy too. I’ve been saying it they have to come together or get on the same page. Russ did us right by giving us that list!

 

[Frozenropers]

Why isn't there just a "Seattle" answer. If asking about next year the other qualifiers are not needed.

1. Seattle, period

 

[pinksheets]

As this goes on, I am starting to feel a divorce is inevitable. Like is there any instance where a QB has literally leaked his preferred trade destinations and then not getting traded?

I think the Bears regime is a special kind of desperate and asy going to make a ridiculous offer. Russ can pay back his signing bonus to eliminate the dead money hit and get it paid back by his new team in an extension immediately.

 

[chris98251]

Well we did fleece them once already getting a great trade for Mirer, can we do it again?

 

[toffee]

I think one thing is being overlooked is where his wife wants to go. I'd guess Vegas would top her list.

Nailed it, she can have her singing gig at some casino. Or chargers, hollywood baby.

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[toffee]

What amazes me is people who can't see Russ is not the same Russ
that could hide weak parts of his game with scrambling and throwing
off script..
Now that he can't do it anywhere close to what he used to he is exposed.
Blaming very little of himself but a lot on others...
"I need a good OL,I need an offense to suit me and I need weapons on offense"
Most anyone who blames others is themselves the problem.
So go ahead RW nuthuggers and fanboys you would love to keep him as he keeps
getting older and slower but I saw this coming and I have seen this with other
QB's...Father time is undefeated and no way is he making it to 40. [emoji38] :177692:

Russ at 80% is better than 90% of NFL starting QBs. He is that good.

The things how did Russ regress to 80% of prime Russ? Age, all the hits and sacks, his numerous side activities. More importantly, how long could future Russ stay at 80% of prime Russ as his side activities are growing on fast track.

I am on the boat to trade now when teams are bidding for him, get 3 or 4 first rounders. Why? An injury next season, his trade stock will at best be half of what we could get now.



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