seahawk12thman":1kvs2g1p said:
Marvin49":1kvs2g1p said:
seahawk12thman":1kvs2g1p said:
Marvin is this troll that comes to our board and chirps about how great the Niners are going to be and argues with me about Harbaugh staying and the Niners winning. Wrong on both counts. He is a whiner who is mad because his team is going to suck for the next five years and now he says he is a genius. He doesn't even know his own team. No point arguing with him because ignorance is bliss to him. All he has been is wrong the whole time LOL.
Funny...because I DON'T brag about how good the Niners are and I've thought Harbaugh was likely to leave for most of the year but usually said flatly that I didn't know.
What YOU are is a king of straw man arguments. You assign my position and argue that instead of arguing the point I'm actually making...because you can't. You were wrong.
I called you out on Jed relationship with DeBartolo and all you can do is call me a troll. That's it. Then puff your chest out about Niners not doing well.
Being a fan of a team doing better right now doesn't make you any more right than being a fan with 5 rings from 20-30 years ago.
Weak. Argue the points I'm making, not the lame, generic "I hate Niner fans" arguments.
Ok Marvin
lie number 1
Gavin Newsome begged the Niners to stay..
Interesting because he wanted them to play on a polluted Naval ship yard while giving prime land to Oracle so they could have America's cup all the time Gavin was telling his counsel that the Niners were going to take the sewage dump. I highly doubt the Niners were secretly wanting to leave their core base in one of the most beautiful cities in America to leave almost 50 miles away to a place that is a commuting nightmare.
http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sp ... tball.html
Lie number 2 Jed York came in and took control of the mess
Experience on the football field DOES matter. Paul Allen is a shadow to the Hawks operations. He says nothing and lets the experts to their job not to mention he helped build one of the biggest empires in America (Microsoft),
Jed York's accomplishments
NOTHING
Took control of the mess? They have backstabbed Harbaugh at every turn. I will say this for Jim, he is loyal and York has done nothing but meddle. Harbaugh doesn't want to take orders from some silver spoon little punk and I don't blame him. He is suppose to make sure the GM and coach see eye to eye before he pairs the relationship. Harbaugh isn't a yes sir, no sir man but he has never thrown anybody under the buss all the while Jed and Baalke are hoping Jim fails so they can get rid of him and not look like the bad guys even though Jim has taken them to 2 NFCC and a super bowl. I am sure many elite coaches will love an organization run like that LOL.
Of course Eddie' loves his nephew but stays at his Montana ranch because he doesn't want to be around the embarrassment that is "Jed York". Eddie says it's because he doesn't want to overshadow his son?? REALLY?? He is that weak?? He has been invited to many games but never comes LOL. Holmgren comes to Seahawks games LOL. Actions speak louder than words. Reminds me of the scene in Gladiator when the emperor says he loves his son but he is not a moral man. John York is a failure and his son is one too. Enjoy the next 5 years Marvin.
I was wrong that Denise is Eddies sister and not his ex-wife so for that I erred..
** SIGH***
Can't help yourself, can you?
1)
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Dail ... 49Ers.aspx
Gavin Newsome was trying to get the Niners to stay all along and was PUBLICALLY badmouthing the team for "leaving" SF. The initial plan was to build the stadium on the Candlestick lot but there were a HUGE number of problems. The Naval Shipyard was proposed because its RIGHT NEXT DOOR and one of the only sites with the space required to build a stadium. Problems? NO INFRASTRUCTURE. One lane roads leading into and out of the area. Would require a bridge be built over Yosemite Slough. Oh yeah...also a superfund site (IE, Toxic Waste spot that government was cleaning up. Geographically, SF isn't very big. Its surrounded on 3 sides by water, so there are very few sites in the city that could host a football stadium.
AT&T and the Warriors new Arena are both FAR smaller sites that could not have hosted a stadium.
Oracle and Americas Cup? Seriously? Dude, that's all a TEMP setup on the Waterfront that'll probably be used for the SuperBowl next year. LOL. That's not even close to being a stadium site. You keep spouting BS that makes no sense. LOL.
Moving away form their "core fans". More idiocy. The 49ers moved CLOSER to their "core fans". over 50% of the Season Ticket base at CANDLESTICK was from the SOUTH BAY while 15% were from SF. Is the vibe in the Stadium less than Candlestick right now? Yup...but it has a lot more to do with ticket prices than moving away from SF. Ticket prices would have gone up anywhere.
San Jose (next door to SC) is LARGER in size and population than SF. They didn't move into the boonies. SF had 20 years to get something done and didn't. Ya wanna know why the 49ers aren't in SF? The city itself thought they shouldn't have to pay a dime for it and in fact got mad publically because they blamed the 49ers for losing them an Olympic Bid because they wanted the stadium built for them...for free.
Don't talk to me about Gavin Newsome. Dude is slime.
2) Making sh*t up again.
Eddie has been to Several games.
Last game at Candlestick for one...where Jed made Eddie the main speaker
Eddie inducted as inaugural member of 49ers Hall of Fame...by Jed York.
Eddie with Sister and Nephew after NFCCG
Eddie at yet another game
Jed York fired Nolan (and unfortunately hired Singletary). Jed hired Baalke. Jed and Baalke hired Harbaugh. Outside of an angry tweet, PLEASE explain how Jed is stabbing Harbaugh in the back? Not paying him with 2 years left on his contract...JUST LIKE SEATTLE DID WITH CARROLL?
The Stadium. If you don't know how HUGE it was to get that thing built, then you have less of a clue than I thought...and that's a pretty low bar right now. Jed hired Gideon Yu to help get that thing done. Building ANYTHING let alone a stadium in CA is nearly impossible. Ask the Raiders. Ask the Chargers. There is a REASON O.Co and whatever they call the Murph are the oldest buildings in the NFL outside of Soldier and Lambeau that have been completely redone.
NOBODY had been able to get a shovel in the ground for 20 or 30 years until Jed came in and did it. You think that';s nothing? Wow. You got no clue dude. None.
3) Yeah...you were wrong about Denise being an "ex-wife". LOL. OMG. That in itself pretty much tells the entire story. You don't have a clue of what you speak. You are just spouting nonsense.
I don't talk about Paul Allen. I don't talk about Carroll. Ya know why? I don't know the situation and I won't pretend to.
Its all good to hate the Niners. Feel free. You are free to slam me at every turn. Feel free to make sh*t up to support your case (you're pretty good at that).
But don't come on here and act like I'm lyin or something when all you are doing is making yourself look foolish. The book has yet to be written on Jed but he's succeeded so far. He's in charge of a team that's got three straight NFCCG appearances and got a 1.3 Billion dollar stadium built. Last I checked that wasn't too bad.