Percy didn't practice today.

[Evil_Shenanigans]

Time to Give Kearse his number back? :stirthepot:

 

[Austin Hawk]

Didn't he have to pass some kind of physical when we traded for him? How on God's Blue & Green Earth did he pass it?

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Didn't he have to pass some kind of physical when we traded for him? How on God's Blue & Green Earth did he pass it?

Good question. The hip problem had to have shown up on the physical.

The bottom line for me with Percy is his ass better be on the field for the playoffs or I will retract every good thing I've said about his heart and toughness. We paid A LOT of money and gave up draft picks for this guy, I expect him to play........and play hurt if he has to.

 

[akscoundrel]

Should Percy harvin return before the playoffs, which I suspect he will, I dont want to see him returning kicks.

Obviously once playoffs roll around throw him back there, but its a little too much imo to ask him to be back there before his body is acclimated to playing in the NFL again.

 

[seahawk12thman]

Should Percy harvin return before the playoffs, which I suspect he will, I dont want to see him returning kicks.

Obviously once playoffs roll around throw him back there, but its a little too much imo to ask him to be back there before his body is acclimated to playing in the NFL again.

Yes. You need him to get acclimated in the offense and the only way to accomplish this is repetitions. They need him to be healty asap. It isn't so much his route running but his timing with Wilson.

 

[RiverDog]

I'm getting sick and tired of this day-to-day, Chinese water torture, Bret Favre will-he-or-won't-he drama. I wish they'd either stick him in there and tell him to man up and play through his pain or shut him down for the rest of the season and move on without him.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

I'm not holding my breath. I've had a bad feeling from the get go, and I've seen absolutely nothing that would make me change my mind.

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[Scottemojo]

A colleague of mine who is an ortho hip specialist and also the same doc who Bob Condotta interviewed earlier in the season about Percy's hip told me that we should be concerned that it's possible that his hip may have no more cartilage given the protracted recovery. He told me if there is no more cartilage in his hip joint that his career as a football player is finished. He also told me, however, that it would be extremely unusual for such a young person to no longer have any cartilage.

Word was it's a 4-6 month recovery frame. Percy isn't yet at month 5. Is that protracted?

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

Didn't he have to pass some kind of physical when we traded for him? How on God's Blue & Green Earth did he pass it?

Really good question Austin Hawk!! Sure would be nice if someone with some nads in the Seattle media would ask Pete and John this same question. If it's been asked, I haven't seen a report of it here. Does anyone know if it has and if so, what was the reponse?

Sgt. Largent, your comment is going to get you skewered here, but I promise you it won't be by me.

 

[volsunghawk]

A colleague of mine who is an ortho hip specialist and also the same doc who Bob Condotta interviewed earlier in the season about Percy's hip told me that we should be concerned that it's possible that his hip may have no more cartilage given the protracted recovery. He told me if there is no more cartilage in his hip joint that his career as a football player is finished. He also told me, however, that it would be extremely unusual for such a young person to no longer have any cartilage.

I doubt it's a cartilage issue. Pete said that he was dealing with 'increased range of motion' issues that they need to 'figure out.' My guess is this increased range of motion is related to removing buildup around the hip that was causing impingment. The increased range of motion is something the surrounding tissue isn't quite used to yet, so he's experiencing some soreness, inflamation, etc.

But, but... what about Carroll's body language?! :mrgreen:

 

[jblaze]

No more kick returns for him unless we're down late in a playoff game or something. Get the guy out there for all the pass plays you want though. Kick returns at full speed seem like they'd be hell on your hip trying to move laterally at speed.

As for right now, shut him down until the playoffs. We likely won't need him until then anyways.

 

[Missing_Clink]

Didn't he have to pass some kind of physical when we traded for him? How on God's Blue & Green Earth did he pass it?

Good question. The hip problem had to have shown up on the physical.

The bottom line for me with Percy is his ass better be on the field for the playoffs or I will retract every good thing I've said about his heart and toughness. We paid A LOT of money and gave up draft picks for this guy, I expect him to play........and play hurt if he has to.

I also think it is fair to question whether he is the type to even consider playing through any sort of pain now that he has gotten paid. Maybe the motivation just isn't there when the money is guaranteed.

 

[bellingerga]

Percy "Deion Branch" Harvin.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

I also think it is fair to question whether he is the type to even consider playing through any sort of pain now that he has gotten paid. Maybe the motivation just isn't there when the money is guaranteed.

Yes it is, VERY fair.

 

[volsunghawk]

I'm getting sick and tired of this day-to-day, Chinese water torture, Bret Favre will-he-or-won't-he drama. I wish they'd either stick him in there and tell him to man up and play through his pain or shut him down for the rest of the season and move on without him.

Brilliant.

Either force the guy into overworking his recovery or eliminate all chances of him contributing this season just because YOU'RE tired of the media coverage. :34853_doh:

Maybe, instead, they should just do as Carroll is suggesting and take it week-by-week and have him available if and when he's able to contribute rather than buckling under to a hyperemotional and needy type of fan.

 

[plyka]

There are really only 2 possibilities with Percy at this time:

1) There is something seriously wrong with the hip. The Hawk front office did not do their Due Dillegence, they made a HORRIBLE mistake in signing Percy, as they did with injury prone made of glass Rice ---note that both are former MN WRs who both played under Bevell. They basically allowed Bevell's emotions to cloud their judgement. Percy has always been injury prone, spending this much capital on such an injury prone player was a massive mistake. Percy will most likely not play this year, and be injured the rest of his career.

2) They now understand how injury prone Percy is. They don't need him in these final regular season games, and although he could play, they don't think he can play 6-7 games in a row without another injury, either the same injury or a different one. So they are saving him for the playoffs.

Either scenario is not a very good one. Percy is injury prone, he will never play 16 games in a season again. If he does it would take divine influence. Let's just hope they are saving him for the playoffs versus the #1 possibility above.

 

[DavidSeven]

This is going to be the opposite of popular opinion, but if he can't get enough reps to get acclimated to the offense this season, I say play him on kick returns only.

Health risk? How often are teams going give him a returnable kick in a playoff situation? Once, maybe twice a game? Is this really more dangerous than asking him to block down-field on a dozen plays? Returning kicks is the one area where he can immediately help you without threatening the offense's chemistry. Give him the ball and go. He blew the Minnesota game open on one return. Put him back there, and let team's pooch it to us at the 35 all day.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I'm getting sick and tired of this day-to-day, Chinese water torture, Bret Favre will-he-or-won't-he drama. I wish they'd either stick him in there and tell him to man up and play through his pain or shut him down for the rest of the season and move on without him.

Brilliant.

Either force the guy into overworking his recovery or eliminate all chances of him contributing this season just because YOU'RE tired of the media coverage. :34853_doh:

Maybe, instead, they should just do as Carroll is suggesting and take it week-by-week and have him available if and when he's able to contribute rather than buckling under to a hyperemotional and needy type of fan.

Wait a minute. If Pete is telling the truth that it's just soreness and there's no threat to Percy damaging anything structurally, then I do call BS.

EVERY player this time of year is playing with "soreness." I understand the need to be cautious, but this is getting ridiculous. If there's no chance of structurally damaging his hip, and it's just soreness, give his ass a shot and put a damn jersey on him like everyone else.

I can tell you this, if we lose one or more of these games down the stretch and don't get HFA? This place will be ON FIRE with people screaming about Harvin. If you think we' talk about him too much now, just hope to God we don't lose another game.

 

[plyka]

A colleague of mine who is an ortho hip specialist and also the same doc who Bob Condotta interviewed earlier in the season about Percy's hip told me that we should be concerned that it's possible that his hip may have no more cartilage given the protracted recovery. He told me if there is no more cartilage in his hip joint that his career as a football player is finished. He also told me, however, that it would be extremely unusual for such a young person to no longer have any cartilage.

I doubt it's a cartilage issue. Pete said that he was dealing with 'increased range of motion' issues that they need to 'figure out.' My guess is this increased range of motion is related to removing buildup around the hip that was causing impingment. The increased range of motion is something the surrounding tissue isn't quite used to yet, so he's experiencing some soreness, inflamation, etc.

Out of all the posts I've read on this topic, this one is the most believable while being the most positive outlook --it's really the best case scenario. His surgury has caused him to IMPROVE his body, and this improvement is causing delays. It's very positive and very possible, I hope it's true.

 

[volsunghawk]

I'm getting sick and tired of this day-to-day, Chinese water torture, Bret Favre will-he-or-won't-he drama. I wish they'd either stick him in there and tell him to man up and play through his pain or shut him down for the rest of the season and move on without him.

Brilliant.

Either force the guy into overworking his recovery or eliminate all chances of him contributing this season just because YOU'RE tired of the media coverage. :34853_doh:

Maybe, instead, they should just do as Carroll is suggesting and take it week-by-week and have him available if and when he's able to contribute rather than buckling under to a hyperemotional and needy type of fan.

Wait a minute. If Pete is telling the truth that it's just soreness and there's no threat to Percy damaging anything structurally, then I do call BS.

EVERY player this time of year is playing with "soreness." I understand the need to be cautious, but this is getting ridiculous. If there's no chance of structurally damaging his hip, and it's just soreness, give his ass a shot and put a damn jersey on him like everyone else.

I can tell you this, if we lose one or more of these games down the stretch and don't get HFA? This place will be ON FIRE with people screaming about Harvin. If you think we' talk about him too much now, just hope to God we don't lose another game.

But NOT every player is dealing with rehabbing an injury that required surgery and is trying to knock the rust off of a year away from game action. And not every player reacts the same way to rehab. Player health isn't a one-size-fits-all deal, and I'm glad the Seahawks aren't treating it that way.

I don't care one way or the other that people are talking about Harvin. He was our biggest offseason acquisition, so it makes sense. And I even understand the people who just remain negative about Harvin's prospects (every fanbase has its pessimists), though I reserve the right to mock the negativity. :mrgreen:

What I don't get is this demand to shut Harvin down just because someone's "tired of hearing about it." That's just stupid.