Pick #141 Shaquem Griffin

[FinNasty]

Pete's already said he wants to play Shaquem at KJ's LB spot and then go from there.

Which makes sense, the WILL LB spot can run around, make plays and blitz/edge rush...........which is what Griffin is really good at, flying to the ball.

IMO turning him into a SS is risky and would take time. Kam was a safety in college, so coaching him up on how to play more in the box wasn't a huge learning curve.

So I'd rather see Shaquem stay at the KJ or Bruce Irvin type LB position, so he's not going through some huge learning curve process transitioning to safety.

Either way, drafting Shaquem made my weekend. Love the dude, love everything he stands for and love having him as a Hawk. He's EXACTLY the kind of energy and heart we need right now.

Well if you knew about him you would know he played Safety before so it is not unknown to him.

I know he played safety in high school, and I didn't say it was unknown to him.

But it would be a bigger transition and learning curve, than keeping him in the WILL LB position that he played at UCF. He certainly has the speed and hitting ability to play our SS, but my guess is Pete wants to groom him to take over for KJ (who's contract expires next year).

He actually was a Safety his first 3 years at UCF as well (including his redshirt year)... however he never got into a game.

But ya... play him at the WILL.

 

[drcool]

Looks like he will be wearing #49

 

[FinNasty]

Looks like he will be wearing #49

That confirmed anywhere? I was hoping for #48 after wearing #18 since #48 was available.

...there's thousands of UCF fans waiting to find out this information, lol. Also, we're trying to figure out if you're going to move to SM. Griffin and SL. Griffin like they were in college, or how you're going to do that...

 

[drcool]

That confirmed anywhere? I was hoping for #48 after wearing #18 since #48 was available.

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The jerseys don't get numbers unless they are confirmed by the league. Of course there is a chance that number will change down the road but I would be 99% confident he will be #49.

And I highly doubt there will be any SM Griffin or SL Griffin. The NFL doesn't like doing the initial thing and have a policy against it. I know there could be exceptions in some cases but wouldn't expect that here.

 

[ivotuk]

What i find laughable is all the tv experts talking about him as if this were a throw away pick or charity pick. "I don't know where they're going to play him." And acting as if he can't play in the NFL without his left hand.

Haven't they seen JPP play? 2017: 8.5 sacks. 5 passes defensed. 2 Forced Fumbles. 48 Tackles. Stats wise, 2017 was his 3rd best year out of his career.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... erJa99.htm

Shaquem is a legitimate NFL player, and will excel at the Weakside Linebacker spot. The most impressive thing I've heard about him (there have only been a few positives), I think it was Bucky Brooks that said "his best plays come at critical times during the game." That's a sign of greatness.

'Quem and 'Quille will be twin, defensive wrecking balls, and teams will be regretting passing on him.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

No doubt about it, this was a football move. Kid is a damn good FOOTBALL player, has nothing to with his hand. Against Auburn, he looked like the best PLAYER on the field, period.

 

[Sac]

Called it.

 

[FinNasty]

What i find laughable is all the tv experts talking about him as if this were a throw away pick or charity pick. "I don't know where they're going to play him." And acting as if he can't play in the NFL without his left hand.

Haven't they seen JPP play? 2017: 8.5 sacks. 5 passes defensed. 2 Forced Fumbles. 48 Tackles. Stats wise, 2017 was his 3rd best year out of his career.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... erJa99.htm

Shaquem is a legitimate NFL player, and will excel at the Weakside Linebacker spot. The most impressive thing I've heard about him (there have only been a few positives), I think it was Bucky Brooks that said "his best plays come at critical times during the game." That's a sign of greatness.

'Quem and 'Quille will be twin, defensive wrecking balls, and teams will be regretting passing on him.

This was so frustrating... it had my blood boiling. They kept saying that the reason he was falling is that there was a "position issue" for Griffin regarding what position he could play due to his size, yet the following LB's that are all within a half inch and a cheesburger were drafted ahead of him with no such "position issue questions":

Roquon Smith - 6'0 7/8" 235lbs
Jerome Baker - 6'1 1/8" 229lbs
Dorian O'Daniel - 6'0 1/2" 223lbs
Josey Jewell - 6'1 234lbs
Joel Iyiegbuniwe - 6'1 229lbs
Kenny Young - 6'1 236lbs
Shaquem Griffin - 6'0 1/2" 227lbs

BULL****. He's the same size and faster and more athletic than all of them. They're scared of the hand. At least say that though and don't insult our intelligence with this "lacks a position" crap...

 

[chris98251]

Also read his stock dropped because of a faulty 40 time, someone said it was really 4.58, not slow but not elite, correct me if I am wrong, we have coaches with stop watches, that starting gate is electronic and a eye at the end electronic. It wasn't until draft day all of a sudden this comes out, Pete and John were both there watching and clocking him also. I call Bullshit on the story, someone skewing something here for some reason, Much like Guice's supposed story about assaulting a Eagles representative at the combine only to find out something different and that there were questions asked that were lets just say in bad taste of him.

 

[MagnificentSeven]

What i find laughable is all the tv experts talking about him as if this were a throw away pick or charity pick. "I don't know where they're going to play him." And acting as if he can't play in the NFL without his left hand.

Haven't they seen JPP play? 2017: 8.5 sacks. 5 passes defensed. 2 Forced Fumbles. 48 Tackles. Stats wise, 2017 was his 3rd best year out of his career.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... erJa99.htm

Shaquem is a legitimate NFL player, and will excel at the Weakside Linebacker spot. The most impressive thing I've heard about him (there have only been a few positives), I think it was Bucky Brooks that said "his best plays come at critical times during the game." That's a sign of greatness.

'Quem and 'Quille will be twin, defensive wrecking balls, and teams will be regretting passing on him.

This was so frustrating... it had my blood boiling. They kept saying that the reason he was falling is that there was a "position issue" for Griffin regarding what position he could play due to his size, yet the following LB's that are all within a half inch and a cheesburger were drafted ahead of him with no such "position issue questions":

Roquon Smith - 6'0 7/8" 235lbs
Jerome Baker - 6'1 1/8" 229lbs
Dorian O'Daniel - 6'0 1/2" 223lbs
Josey Jewell - 6'1 234lbs
Joel Iyiegbuniwe - 6'1 229lbs
Kenny Young - 6'1 236lbs
Shaquem Griffin - 6'0 1/2" 227lbs

BULL****. He's the same size and faster and more athletic than all of them. They're scared of the hand. At least say that though and don't insult our intelligence with this "lacks a position" crap...

I don't get it either. Living in Central Florida, I watched a few UCF games and Shaquem was as legit as they come. Unbelievable closing speed, which will certainly help him in coverage, as a pass rusher, and hitting gaps in the run game. Will the lack of a second hand be a detriment? It's possible, but he has so many other talents to compensate that I just don't see how he doesn't find a home here.

Even if he wasn't drafted by Seattle, I wanted him to succeed and shut up all the critics....you know, the ones whose record for draft analysis is about as on par as mine, yours, or anyone else's when you consider all the Tom Bradys Russell Wilsons, Doug Baldwins, etc. that they've whiffed on over the years. Afterall, they still haven't invented a Combine measurement for Grit and Heart.

 

[FinNasty]

Also read his stock dropped because of a faulty 40 time, someone said it was really 4.58, not slow but not elite, correct me if I am wrong, we have coaches with stop watches, that starting gate is electronic and a eye at the end electronic. It wasn't until draft day all of a sudden this comes out, Pete and John were both there watching and clocking him also. I call Bullshit on the story, someone skewing something here for some reason, Much like Guice's supposed story about assaulting a Eagles representative at the combine only to find out something different and that there were questions asked that were lets just say in bad taste of him.

OK... so here's the deal with that. Shaquem's 40 was picked apart b/c there are cynics out there who hate anything that is good and don't believe in good stories, lol. So, people broke his 40 down frame by frame and said it didn't match up.

So, I went and looked... and they were right... the timer on his 4.38 appears to stop early:



That is... until you do the same to every other prospect, and realize there was an issue with the broadcast not aligning with the timer correctly. I went and looked through multiple players at random, and they all had the same issue on the broadcast:

Tremaine Edmunds' first run of 4.55 (ran a 4.54 on his 2nd run)


Fred Warner's 2nd run of 4.64


Chris Worley's 2nd run of 4.87


Roquon clearly already starting but clock still at 0.00...



The timer on the broadcast is off... but the timer was legit on the field... which is why these times stuck as official. People didn't believe and wanted to pick his apart... but they didn't take the time to do the same to everyone else's...

 

[RolandDeschain]

On another note, is someone really complaining about their hair? What does hair have to do with how a guy plays football? :?

A hell of a lot more than you're aware of, apparently. Here's Polamalu getting tackled by his hair after intercepting a pass. Getting tackled by your hair could literally be a game-altering event.

[youtube]eVO93amUv7Y[/youtube]

 

[therealjohncarlson]

Great story but can someone please explain to me how Shaqueem tackles players with only one hand...?

Thanks

 

[FinNasty]

Great story but can someone please explain to me how Shaqueem tackles players with only one hand...?

Thanks

...how does a predator catch its prey?

Like a savage. Just watch...

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[KiwiHawk]

Great story but can someone please explain to me how Shaqueem tackles players with only one hand...?

Thanks

We'll refer this to Mr. Chancellor for comment. Note that inertia causes the raindrops to remain in a helmet-shaped pattern as the force of the impact makes Mr. Davis wonder what universe he's in. Also notice no hands were used in this tackle, yet Mr. Davis was most certainly down.

 

[FinNasty]

In all serious... think of a player that breaks his hand and has to wear a club/cast. Do you bench that player or do you play him with a cast?

Now... realize that player is trying to adjust to playing with a cast on within a week or 2. However, this is all Shaquem has ever known his entire life. When he first learned to tackle as a kid, he learned to tackle without a hand. He doesn't know any other way. Its normal to him...

 

[OkieHawk]

On another note, is someone really complaining about their hair? What does hair have to do with how a guy plays football? :?

A hell of a lot more than you're aware of, apparently. Here's Polamalu getting tackled by his hair after intercepting a pass. Getting tackled by your hair could literally be a game-altering event.

[youtube]eVO93amUv7Y[/youtube]

I knew you'd bring either this, or when Sherman had his hair grabbed after an interception up. With how many players who have long hair, how often does this really happen? I'm willing to wager that it is not as often as one would think.

In other words, it's something that happens so rarely that the players aren't cutting their hair.

 

[RolandDeschain]

I knew you'd bring either this, or when Sherman had his hair grabbed after an interception up. With how many players who have long hair, how often does this really happen? I'm willing to wager that it is not as often as one would think.

In other words, it's something that happens so rarely that the players aren't cutting their hair.

This is actually only a minor part of my argument. It affects your ability to "snap-check" what's going on behind you. That's a fact, not an opinion; it's not even worth discussing further.

Either you're on the side of style over substance when it comes to a multi-million-dollar career, or you're not. I'm not.

 

[OkieHawk]

Either you're on the side of style over substance when it comes to a multi-million-dollar career, or you're not. I'm not.

And again, this directly affects you how?

 

[therealjohncarlson]

Great story but can someone please explain to me how Shaqueem tackles players with only one hand...?

Thanks

We'll refer this to Mr. Chancellor for comment. Note that inertia causes the raindrops to remain in a helmet-shaped pattern as the force of the impact makes Mr. Davis wonder what universe he's in. Also notice no hands were used in this tackle, yet Mr. Davis was most certainly down.

But the reason he was able to tackle that way was because he was completely squared up to the ball carrier. What about the vast majority of times during a game when a player is required to be pulled down in some way, shape, or form?