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66% completion percentage..which is his highest mark for a season, but he is missing throws more often.
BoltonWanderer":1xu54brg said:I love Wilson, and I do rate him highly, but there's no question that he's an inconsistent quarterback. The people who love him, myself included, have reason to rate him highly and some of the throws and plays he can make are unbelievable, but then there's an aspect to his game which baffles everyone, Wilson included. Think about the missed pass to Baldwin. No high level QB should be missing that pass and in 99% of cases, it's a touchdown, yet Wilson has periods in games where he's so far beneath his own level. I think the difference between him at his best and worst is the biggest in the league and the strange thing about Wilson is that, unlike bad QBs, he doesn't have weeks where he's poor, he just has parts of a games where he misses very easy throws but, like the best QBs, he's capable of hitting some unbelievable throws too.
I can't say enough about Wilson, I love him and would never want to lose him as a Seahawk, but he has issues to fix. These stats about him in the 4th are great but the other 3 quarters should be similar and in games like this, or the famous NFC Championship game against the Packers, they just aren't. Wilson needs to find more consistency; it's not a physical issue, it's mental and we need him on his best all the time because THAT Wilson is very much elite and near unstoppable.
Because he can be a brilliant QB, and as I said several times in that post, he can play at a level which is unstoppable.Sox-n-Hawks":2kegejzf said:BoltonWanderer":2kegejzf said:I love Wilson, and I do rate him highly, but there's no question that he's an inconsistent quarterback. The people who love him, myself included, have reason to rate him highly and some of the throws and plays he can make are unbelievable, but then there's an aspect to his game which baffles everyone, Wilson included. Think about the missed pass to Baldwin. No high level QB should be missing that pass and in 99% of cases, it's a touchdown, yet Wilson has periods in games where he's so far beneath his own level. I think the difference between him at his best and worst is the biggest in the league and the strange thing about Wilson is that, unlike bad QBs, he doesn't have weeks where he's poor, he just has parts of a games where he misses very easy throws but, like the best QBs, he's capable of hitting some unbelievable throws too.
I can't say enough about Wilson, I love him and would never want to lose him as a Seahawk, but he has issues to fix. These stats about him in the 4th are great but the other 3 quarters should be similar and in games like this, or the famous NFC Championship game against the Packers, they just aren't. Wilson needs to find more consistency; it's not a physical issue, it's mental and we need him on his best all the time because THAT Wilson is very much elite and near unstoppable.
Inconsistent? You do realize he has the second highest career passer rating right?
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BoltonWanderer":3m395m4g said:Because he can be a brilliant QB, and as I said several times in that post, he can play at a level which is unstoppable.Sox-n-Hawks":3m395m4g said:BoltonWanderer":3m395m4g said:I love Wilson, and I do rate him highly, but there's no question that he's an inconsistent quarterback. The people who love him, myself included, have reason to rate him highly and some of the throws and plays he can make are unbelievable, but then there's an aspect to his game which baffles everyone, Wilson included. Think about the missed pass to Baldwin. No high level QB should be missing that pass and in 99% of cases, it's a touchdown, yet Wilson has periods in games where he's so far beneath his own level. I think the difference between him at his best and worst is the biggest in the league and the strange thing about Wilson is that, unlike bad QBs, he doesn't have weeks where he's poor, he just has parts of a games where he misses very easy throws but, like the best QBs, he's capable of hitting some unbelievable throws too.
I can't say enough about Wilson, I love him and would never want to lose him as a Seahawk, but he has issues to fix. These stats about him in the 4th are great but the other 3 quarters should be similar and in games like this, or the famous NFC Championship game against the Packers, they just aren't. Wilson needs to find more consistency; it's not a physical issue, it's mental and we need him on his best all the time because THAT Wilson is very much elite and near unstoppable.
Inconsistent? You do realize he has the second highest career passer rating right?
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The problem is, Wilson is capable of a perfect passing rating (as he's done this season) and capable of perfect quarters (as he's also done this season) but then he's also capable of having quarters where he misses very simple throws, holds onto the ball for too long and makes poor decisions. That's why I called him inconsistent because he is, factually, inconsistent. You can be inconsistent and overall very good, it's just that if Wilson was more consistent, he'd be evem better.
That's not to deny his potential and ability because nobody can deny it, he can be arguably the most unstoppable QB in the league when he's on form, but he can be awful too.
oldhawkfan":2oovbcr8 said:It’s becoming clearer that there is a definite faction of Seahawks fans who won’t be satisfied unless the QB is absolutely perfect on every play, every throw, every game. I’m thinking these are the same people who never ever have an off day at their job or in their life. The Seahawks have one of the best QBs playing the game. Enjoy the ride and be thankful!
oldhawkfan":1u0nx1xi said:It’s becoming clearer that there is a definite faction of Seahawks fans who won’t be satisfied unless the QB is absolutely perfect on every play, every throw, every game. I’m thinking these are the same people who never ever have an off day at their job or in their life. The Seahawks have one of the best QBs playing the game. Enjoy the ride and be thankful!
FlyHawksFly":1h0qhctr said:BoltonWanderer":1h0qhctr said:Because he can be a brilliant QB, and as I said several times in that post, he can play at a level which is unstoppable.Sox-n-Hawks":1h0qhctr said:BoltonWanderer":1h0qhctr said:I love Wilson, and I do rate him highly, but there's no question that he's an inconsistent quarterback. The people who love him, myself included, have reason to rate him highly and some of the throws and plays he can make are unbelievable, but then there's an aspect to his game which baffles everyone, Wilson included. Think about the missed pass to Baldwin. No high level QB should be missing that pass and in 99% of cases, it's a touchdown, yet Wilson has periods in games where he's so far beneath his own level. I think the difference between him at his best and worst is the biggest in the league and the strange thing about Wilson is that, unlike bad QBs, he doesn't have weeks where he's poor, he just has parts of a games where he misses very easy throws but, like the best QBs, he's capable of hitting some unbelievable throws too.
I can't say enough about Wilson, I love him and would never want to lose him as a Seahawk, but he has issues to fix. These stats about him in the 4th are great but the other 3 quarters should be similar and in games like this, or the famous NFC Championship game against the Packers, they just aren't. Wilson needs to find more consistency; it's not a physical issue, it's mental and we need him on his best all the time because THAT Wilson is very much elite and near unstoppable.
Inconsistent? You do realize he has the second highest career passer rating right?
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The problem is, Wilson is capable of a perfect passing rating (as he's done this season) and capable of perfect quarters (as he's also done this season) but then he's also capable of having quarters where he misses very simple throws, holds onto the ball for too long and makes poor decisions. That's why I called him inconsistent because he is, factually, inconsistent. You can be inconsistent and overall very good, it's just that if Wilson was more consistent, he'd be evem better.
That's not to deny his potential and ability because nobody can deny it, he can be arguably the most unstoppable QB in the league when he's on form, but he can be awful too.
Name a QB who doesn't do those things?
Hawkpower":k5nj1cf7 said:FlyHawksFly":k5nj1cf7 said:BoltonWanderer":k5nj1cf7 said:Because he can be a brilliant QB, and as I said several times in that post, he can play at a level which is unstoppable.Sox-n-Hawks":k5nj1cf7 said:Inconsistent? You do realize he has the second highest career passer rating right?
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The problem is, Wilson is capable of a perfect passing rating (as he's done this season) and capable of perfect quarters (as he's also done this season) but then he's also capable of having quarters where he misses very simple throws, holds onto the ball for too long and makes poor decisions. That's why I called him inconsistent because he is, factually, inconsistent. You can be inconsistent and overall very good, it's just that if Wilson was more consistent, he'd be evem better.
That's not to deny his potential and ability because nobody can deny it, he can be arguably the most unstoppable QB in the league when he's on form, but he can be awful too.
Name a QB who doesn't do those things?
True every QB has bad moments.
But he has a point. Russ has really, REALLY bad stretches. And really REALLY great stretches.
I think most elite QB's are more steady, with an occasional bad throw or mistake mixed in, whereas Russ can be inexplicably horrible for long stretches of a game and then suddenly seems to turn it on and is an absolute stud on the field.
As fans, its ok to admit this. This tendency to say WELL WE COULD HAVE DAN MCGWIRE!!!! every time somebody dares to point out a frustrating part of his game is ridiculous. Most of us appreciate Russ, but he can be frustrating to watch when he is in a bad stretch and our offense sputters for quarters and halves at a time as a result.
BoltonWanderer":23m6zftd said:I love Wilson, and I do rate him highly, but there's no question that he's an inconsistent quarterback. The people who love him, myself included, have reason to rate him highly and some of the throws and plays he can make are unbelievable, but then there's an aspect to his game which baffles everyone, Wilson included. Think about the missed pass to Baldwin. No high level QB should be missing that pass and in 99% of cases, it's a touchdown, yet Wilson has periods in games where he's so far beneath his own level. I think the difference between him at his best and worst is the biggest in the league and the strange thing about Wilson is that, unlike bad QBs, he doesn't have weeks where he's poor, he just has parts of a games where he misses very easy throws but, like the best QBs, he's capable of hitting some unbelievable throws too.
I can't say enough about Wilson, I love him and would never want to lose him as a Seahawk, but he has issues to fix. These stats about him in the 4th are great but the other 3 quarters should be similar and in games like this, or the famous NFC Championship game against the Packers, they just aren't. Wilson needs to find more consistency; it's not a physical issue, it's mental and we need him on his best all the time because THAT Wilson is very much elite and near unstoppable.
Hawkpower":16qz5db4 said:FlyHawksFly":16qz5db4 said:BoltonWanderer":16qz5db4 said:Because he can be a brilliant QB, and as I said several times in that post, he can play at a level which is unstoppable.Sox-n-Hawks":16qz5db4 said:Inconsistent? You do realize he has the second highest career passer rating right?
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The problem is, Wilson is capable of a perfect passing rating (as he's done this season) and capable of perfect quarters (as he's also done this season) but then he's also capable of having quarters where he misses very simple throws, holds onto the ball for too long and makes poor decisions. That's why I called him inconsistent because he is, factually, inconsistent. You can be inconsistent and overall very good, it's just that if Wilson was more consistent, he'd be evem better.
That's not to deny his potential and ability because nobody can deny it, he can be arguably the most unstoppable QB in the league when he's on form, but he can be awful too.
Name a QB who doesn't do those things?
True every QB has bad moments.
But he has a point. Russ has really, REALLY bad stretches. And really REALLY great stretches.
I think most elite QB's are more steady, with an occasional bad throw or mistake mixed in, whereas Russ can be inexplicably horrible for long stretches of a game and then suddenly seems to turn it on and is an absolute stud on the field.
As fans, its ok to admit this. This tendency to say WELL WE COULD HAVE DAN MCGWIRE!!!! every time somebody dares to point out a frustrating part of his game is ridiculous. Most of us appreciate Russ, but he can be frustrating to watch when he is in a bad stretch and our offense sputters for quarters and halves at a time as a result.
Fade":3320s3rc said:BoltonWanderer":3320s3rc said:I love Wilson, and I do rate him highly, but there's no question that he's an inconsistent quarterback. The people who love him, myself included, have reason to rate him highly and some of the throws and plays he can make are unbelievable, but then there's an aspect to his game which baffles everyone, Wilson included. Think about the missed pass to Baldwin. No high level QB should be missing that pass and in 99% of cases, it's a touchdown, yet Wilson has periods in games where he's so far beneath his own level. I think the difference between him at his best and worst is the biggest in the league and the strange thing about Wilson is that, unlike bad QBs, he doesn't have weeks where he's poor, he just has parts of a games where he misses very easy throws but, like the best QBs, he's capable of hitting some unbelievable throws too.
I can't say enough about Wilson, I love him and would never want to lose him as a Seahawk, but he has issues to fix. These stats about him in the 4th are great but the other 3 quarters should be similar and in games like this, or the famous NFC Championship game against the Packers, they just aren't. Wilson needs to find more consistency; it's not a physical issue, it's mental and we need him on his best all the time because THAT Wilson is very much elite and near unstoppable.
This post is so categorically wrong I cannot believe I am reading it.
You can set your watch to Russell Wilson.
+60%
30+ TDs (Running & Throwing)
10 INTS
100 Passer Rating
500 Yards Rushing
He is the model of consistency. The 2nd Highest rated passer of All-Time.
2012 - 100.0 Passer Rating
2013 - 101.2 Passer Rating
2014 - 95.0 Passer Rating
2015 - 110.1 Passer Rating
2016 - 92.6 Passer Rating (Injured Season w/ankle & MCL tear. 32nd Ranked O-Line via PFF, only 259 yds rushing.)
2017 - 95.6 Passer Rating
2018 - 110.2 Passer Rating (Already has 227 yards rushing in 10 games. Further context to how hurt he was in 2016.)
Matt Ryan is inconsistent.
2012 - 99.1 Passer Rating
2013 - 89.6 Passer Rating
2014 - 93.9 Passer Rating
2015 - 89.7 Passer Rating
2016 - 117.1 Passer Rating
2017 - 91.4 Passer Rating
2018 - 113.2 Passer Rating
He has only posted a 100% passer rating 2 times in his much longer career. Most seasons he was in the low 90's.
Or have a laugh and look at Cam Newton as a passer. That is inconsistent.
I am going to create a new thread to bury this stupidity once and for all.
You either didn't read or didn't understand my point.Fade":2xm98gvz said:BoltonWanderer":2xm98gvz said:I love Wilson, and I do rate him highly, but there's no question that he's an inconsistent quarterback. The people who love him, myself included, have reason to rate him highly and some of the throws and plays he can make are unbelievable, but then there's an aspect to his game which baffles everyone, Wilson included. Think about the missed pass to Baldwin. No high level QB should be missing that pass and in 99% of cases, it's a touchdown, yet Wilson has periods in games where he's so far beneath his own level. I think the difference between him at his best and worst is the biggest in the league and the strange thing about Wilson is that, unlike bad QBs, he doesn't have weeks where he's poor, he just has parts of a games where he misses very easy throws but, like the best QBs, he's capable of hitting some unbelievable throws too.
I can't say enough about Wilson, I love him and would never want to lose him as a Seahawk, but he has issues to fix. These stats about him in the 4th are great but the other 3 quarters should be similar and in games like this, or the famous NFC Championship game against the Packers, they just aren't. Wilson needs to find more consistency; it's not a physical issue, it's mental and we need him on his best all the time because THAT Wilson is very much elite and near unstoppable.
This post is so categorically wrong I cannot believe I am reading it.
You can set your watch to Russell Wilson.
+60%
30+ TDs (Running & Throwing)
10 INTS
100 Passer Rating
500 Yards Rushing
He is the model of consistency. The 2nd Highest rated passer of All-Time.
2012 - 100.0 Passer Rating
2013 - 101.2 Passer Rating
2014 - 95.0 Passer Rating
2015 - 110.1 Passer Rating
2016 - 92.6 Passer Rating (Injured Season w/ankle & MCL tear. 32nd Ranked O-Line via PFF, only 259 yds rushing.)
2017 - 95.6 Passer Rating
2018 - 110.2 Passer Rating (Already has 227 yards rushing in 10 games. Further context to how hurt he was in 2016.)
Matt Ryan is inconsistent.
2012 - 99.1 Passer Rating
2013 - 89.6 Passer Rating
2014 - 93.9 Passer Rating
2015 - 89.7 Passer Rating
2016 - 117.1 Passer Rating
2017 - 91.4 Passer Rating
2018 - 113.2 Passer Rating
He has only posted a 100% passer rating 2 times in his much longer career. Most seasons he was in the low 90's.
Or have a laugh and look at Cam Newton as a passer. That is inconsistent.
I am going to create a new thread to bury this stupidity once and for all.
BoltonWanderer":29rxt2jn said:You either didn't read or didn't understand my point.Fade":29rxt2jn said:BoltonWanderer":29rxt2jn said:I love Wilson, and I do rate him highly, but there's no question that he's an inconsistent quarterback. The people who love him, myself included, have reason to rate him highly and some of the throws and plays he can make are unbelievable, but then there's an aspect to his game which baffles everyone, Wilson included. Think about the missed pass to Baldwin. No high level QB should be missing that pass and in 99% of cases, it's a touchdown, yet Wilson has periods in games where he's so far beneath his own level. I think the difference between him at his best and worst is the biggest in the league and the strange thing about Wilson is that, unlike bad QBs, he doesn't have weeks where he's poor, he just has parts of a games where he misses very easy throws but, like the best QBs, he's capable of hitting some unbelievable throws too.
I can't say enough about Wilson, I love him and would never want to lose him as a Seahawk, but he has issues to fix. These stats about him in the 4th are great but the other 3 quarters should be similar and in games like this, or the famous NFC Championship game against the Packers, they just aren't. Wilson needs to find more consistency; it's not a physical issue, it's mental and we need him on his best all the time because THAT Wilson is very much elite and near unstoppable.
This post is so categorically wrong I cannot believe I am reading it.
You can set your watch to Russell Wilson.
+60%
30+ TDs (Running & Throwing)
10 INTS
100 Passer Rating
500 Yards Rushing
He is the model of consistency. The 2nd Highest rated passer of All-Time.
2012 - 100.0 Passer Rating
2013 - 101.2 Passer Rating
2014 - 95.0 Passer Rating
2015 - 110.1 Passer Rating
2016 - 92.6 Passer Rating (Injured Season w/ankle & MCL tear. 32nd Ranked O-Line via PFF, only 259 yds rushing.)
2017 - 95.6 Passer Rating
2018 - 110.2 Passer Rating (Already has 227 yards rushing in 10 games. Further context to how hurt he was in 2016.)
Matt Ryan is inconsistent.
2012 - 99.1 Passer Rating
2013 - 89.6 Passer Rating
2014 - 93.9 Passer Rating
2015 - 89.7 Passer Rating
2016 - 117.1 Passer Rating
2017 - 91.4 Passer Rating
2018 - 113.2 Passer Rating
He has only posted a 100% passer rating 2 times in his much longer career. Most seasons he was in the low 90's.
Or have a laugh and look at Cam Newton as a passer. That is inconsistent.
I am going to create a new thread to bury this stupidity once and for all.
Firstly, it seems like you think I'm against Wilson when I'm not. I think he's elite, I love him and I want him to retire here. I wouldn't swap him for anyone else in the league and if you offered me a prime version of any active QB instead of him, the list may only be two long. I'm a huge fan of his, so what I say isn't criticism, it's an observation.
Secondly, his record year in year out has got no bearing on what I said. As I said "he doesn't have weeks where he's poor, he just has parts of a games where he misses very easy throws", so that's my issue with his game. It's not that he has bad weeks, or even bad years which you seem to think is the only aspect of consistency, it's that when he's off form, he'll take time to settle in and then be brilliant in the fourth quarter. That's fine, we all love those comebacks, but the disparity between the fourth and the previous three is the definition of inconsistency.
Year in year out, Wilson is consistent, there's no denying that. He's a very high level QB. Game in game out, he's consistent, but there are drives and quarters of games where he can be either unstoppable or very poor. I think that disparity in levels is more significant than any other top QB around now, including guys like Matt Ryan, even though Wilson is the far better player.
Last year, Wilson's passer rating in the first quarter was 75.3 and in the fourth quarter, it was an astonishing 138.2. No matter which numbers you want to look at, that is inconsistency throughout a game. Consistency is averaging between 90-100 or whatever, inconsistency is going from 75.3 to 138.2.
By the way, the fact he is capable of 138.2 is why all Seahawks fans should love him but it's utterly pointless to be biased and ignored the 75.3, we should want him to fix things that are holding him back.