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  • Well after today that's no shocker.

    But you're saying there's a chance. :P
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  • If the Hawks play uninspired and sloppy football like they did today, they're going to get their collective asses handed to them by a pissed off Rams team playing at home.
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  • Only 10?

    Whatever!
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • If the Hawks can manage a TD or Two they will have the best TD skits...they practice hard on those. :sarcasm_on:
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  • For those curious, we lost that game at Dallas 23-13.
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  • xray wrote:If the Hawks can manage a TD or Two they will have the best TD skits...they practice hard on those. :sarcasm_on:


    I know right? At least Halloween has come and gone, so Russell won't be wasting everyone's time by trick or treating with his kids this week.
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  • Did the Saints soften up the Rams some? I dont think so. I'll take the Rams and the 10.
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  • How about we bet a pint? I'll take the Hawks and that 10. I already have one board member who owes me a 6 pack. Just glad I didn't bet on yesterdays game :lol:
    I know people want to worship the Rams, but my god their D is horrible on the back end. Shredded, multiple times this season.
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  • KitsapGuy wrote:



    GOOD! Carroll wouldn't have it any other way!! exactly where we want to be flying under the radar setting up a huge upset!


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  • I hope the Hawks come out and kick the Rams' butts but this has all the signs of a terrible loss. You have the most talented team coming home after a really close loss to probably the 2nd best NFC team and you have the Hawks losing a somewhat close game (depending on how you look at it) at HOME who now have to go on the road. The big road victory before the loss too may have been their "best" road game of the season too and they will need an even better effort to beat the Rams. I would bet the Rams at -10.5 with a small chance of a back door cover by the Hawks who could trail by 17 a score a last minute TD in garbage time.

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  • If this game was last week I would be confident in saying the game will be in the 5-8 point differential either way. But after the egg Russ laid, both Carson-Fluker banged up, and the Rams coming home pissed off their first loss, Rams win easily. Rams by at least 14.
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  • The Rams have beat 1 team by 10 + points in the last 5 weeks the 49ers. The other 3 wins are by a combined 7 points.

    I honestly think the Seahawks have a better chance of winning this game than the Rams do of winning it by 10+.
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  • My money is on the Seahawks to cover. 20$. Big baller here!
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  • If Fluker is back. We winning. Period.
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  • Well Walter Football has this pick Seahawks +10 as his November pick of the month, so that's pretty much the kiss of death...lol. I agree with him though
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  • Everyone has to be back healthy and 100% and that won’t happen. Also the Rams secondary has been shredded a few times but you have to have time to have your receivers get down field. Our oline is getting better but we just aren’t there yet against this rams upfront 7.

    We need to run the ball and control the clock. We cannot have 90 second three and outs. And some one has to shut down Kuper.
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  • I never understand double digit spreads with the Hawks. They've lost like 3 games in 5 years by 10 or more points. Losing by greater than 10 is not in our DNA. I guess Vegas got burned by the 42-13 beatdown and haven't forgotten.
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  • knownone wrote:The Rams have beat 1 team by 10 + points in the last 5 weeks the 49ers. The other 3 wins are by a combined 7 points.

    I honestly think the Seahawks have a better chance of winning this game than the Rams do of winning it by 10+.



    We're 4-0 at home so far:

    34-0 against the Cardinals

    35-23 against the Chargers

    38-31 against the Vikings

    29-27 against the Packers

    We had double digit leads against both the Vikings and Packers - the Vikings got us right after Talib and Peters were injured, and a missed (chipshot) FG is what made this game look closer otherwise we win by 10+. The Packers had a bye so had two weeks to prep and both McCarthy and Rodgers have a very good record after their bye. And again, the Rams were still up by 10 at some point in that game.

    The other games you're talking about are @Seattle - one of the toughest places to play, so just winning is impressive. @Denver - Rams were up 17 and Broncos scored a garbage time TD to avoid losing by 10. And then see Packers above.

    IMO Rams by 10 makes sense. After a loss last year in the regular season the Rams were 4-0 with wins over the Jags, Saints and Seahawks (and Niners but obviously they were not a good team).
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  • Does anyone reasonably expect us to beat the Rams? Without Carson?

    It is possible, but it would involve the Rams just absolutely falling on their face repeatedly. They could lose but I don't think there is anything we can do to win if the Rams are playing at reasonable effectiveness. They are a better team and would just have to have tons of mistakes or injuries for us even to be competitive in the game.

    So the point spread makes sense. With Carson? I think we could run on them, keep it close and have one of those 30/70 shots to win at the end. But without him? Davis is good as an alternate but we saw what Davis as your starting back gets you (last year).

    Nothing in that point spread should shock you, especially in their house. We probably lose by more than 10, but I don't think it will mean anything beyond what we already know. The Rams are a better team, we are more in the middle tier.
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  • The only reason the last game was close was because Rams lost Kupp and Cooks. I expect Kupp to have a huge day against us like he has in the past. Rams win by 17.
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  • Fluker most likely.out. That will hurt bad. So that rumor seems like it may of been correct.
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  • And there it is, making excuses for why the Hawks were a couple stupid penalties away from beating the often worshipped paper champion Rams. :roll:
    I'm at the point where I truly wonder if some people here are actually Rams fans claiming to be Seahawks fans.
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  • RCATES wrote:The only reason the last game was close was because Rams lost Kupp and Cooks. I expect Kupp to have a huge day against us like he has in the past. Rams win by 17.



    Did they start the game yes, it's football, refs influence the game, injuries, the only reason we don't have three Super Bowls is because we lost Manual and Avril and Sherman was playing with one Arm and Kam was banged up.

    See how that works?
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  • RCATES wrote:The only reason the last game was close was because Rams lost Kupp and Cooks. I expect Kupp to have a huge day against us like he has in the past. Rams win by 17.


    Between your Wilson bias and your one sided narrative against the team, I'm beginning to wonder if you're actually a Hawks fan. We were missing KJ Wright last game. We made mistakes and had injuries of our own.

    Seriously, why make excuses for ONLY the Rams when we had plenty of excuses of our own??


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    knownone wrote:The Rams have beat 1 team by 10 + points in the last 5 weeks the 49ers. The other 3 wins are by a combined 7 points.

    I honestly think the Seahawks have a better chance of winning this game than the Rams do of winning it by 10+.



    We're 4-0 at home so far:

    34-0 against the Cardinals

    35-23 against the Chargers

    38-31 against the Vikings

    29-27 against the Packers

    We had double digit leads against both the Vikings and Packers - the Vikings got us right after Talib and Peters were injured, and a missed (chipshot) FG is what made this game look closer otherwise we win by 10+. The Packers had a bye so had two weeks to prep and both McCarthy and Rodgers have a very good record after their bye. And again, the Rams were still up by 10 at some point in that game.

    The other games you're talking about are @Seattle - one of the toughest places to play, so just winning is impressive. @Denver - Rams were up 17 and Broncos scored a garbage time TD to avoid losing by 10. And then see Packers above.

    IMO Rams by 10 makes sense. After a loss last year in the regular season the Rams were 4-0 with wins over the Jags, Saints and Seahawks (and Niners but obviously they were not a good team).



    The Seahawks have been losing games at home dating back to last year. We are a better road team than home team in the last couple years, so the idea of us being wholly better at home is an old narrative
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  • Ramfan128 wrote:
    knownone wrote:The Rams have beat 1 team by 10 + points in the last 5 weeks the 49ers. The other 3 wins are by a combined 7 points.

    I honestly think the Seahawks have a better chance of winning this game than the Rams do of winning it by 10+.



    We're 4-0 at home so far:

    34-0 against the Cardinals

    35-23 against the Chargers

    38-31 against the Vikings

    29-27 against the Packers

    We had double digit leads against both the Vikings and Packers - the Vikings got us right after Talib and Peters were injured, and a missed (chipshot) FG is what made this game look closer otherwise we win by 10+. The Packers had a bye so had two weeks to prep and both McCarthy and Rodgers have a very good record after their bye. And again, the Rams were still up by 10 at some point in that game.

    The other games you're talking about are @Seattle - one of the toughest places to play, so just winning is impressive. @Denver - Rams were up 17 and Broncos scored a garbage time TD to avoid losing by 10. And then see Packers above.

    IMO Rams by 10 makes sense. After a loss last year in the regular season the Rams were 4-0 with wins over the Jags, Saints and Seahawks (and Niners but obviously they were not a good team).

    You've just outlined why the Rams by 10 does not make much sense. What happens in the games does not matter when it comes to the point spread, what matters is the final score. The only two teams you've beaten all season by 10 points are the Cardinals and 49ers, two objectively bad teams who've combined for seven 10(+) point defeats this season. The Seahawks have yet to lose a game all season by 10 points and the last game they played against the Rams came down to essentially the final play.

    The more traditional approach to oddsmaking would put the Rams at around +5 points and everything else is the bookmaker trying to adjust to meet public opinion in order to get equal betting on both sides. Considering the line opened at +10 for the Rams the Seahawks are just as likely to tie or win as they are to lose by more than 10 points... kind of, the game doesn't actually work like that but the math does.

    Now, obviously, games need to be played and I don't fault you for thinking the Rams will win by 10+. That's a fair opinion to have. I just don't think the line accurately represents the data we have available at this time.
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