chris98251
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XxXdragonXxX":a03vt2v5 said:chris98251":a03vt2v5 said:XxXdragonXxX":a03vt2v5 said:MyrtleHawk":a03vt2v5 said:You answered your own question after asking it. It takes a whole team to make it deep into the playoffs, much less a Superbowl. No I don't think trading Wilson = the best team in the NFL aside from the QB position, but also are you really calling the 49ers the best team in the NFL aside from the QB position? Seriously? And if so, look at how they're doing. Does that not warrant just a microscopic ounce of proof that a franchise QB literally ISN'T necessary to make it to the playoffs, much less make it to a conference championship game?
The point is that it is extremely hard to build a team that strong without an elite QB. That is why the majority of SBs are won by teams with elite QBs. To get that far without an elite QB, the rest of the team has to be great all around. And yes I absolutely believe the Niners are the best all around team outside of the QB position. And furthermore, it is even harder to keep a team without an elite QB competitive for a long time, that is why when you see a team like the Ravens win a SB with Joe Flacco/Trent Dilfer, they don't sustain that success. Keeping an entire roster at an elite level for years is impossible, that is why having an elite QB is the best way to build a team.
How many Super Bowls has Elite Aaron, Elite Russell, Elite Peyton, Elite Ben, all won?
One and Two for Ben.
I think a Coach and Ownership is more important, Pittsburgh, San Francisco, Dallas, Miami all had the right formula for a while and then the big outlier the Patriots being the other. They all did it with what were considered good QB's, Montana and Young were not considered elite till their success was chalked up to wins, Staubach and Aikman the same, both had issues coming into the league or stigmas they had to overcome, Bradshaw was considered a great arm and a Tough SOB but not a bright guy for the position. Greise was good at everything but very smart but not Franchise so to speak as looked at today.
Peyton, Rodgers, Rapistburger, and Wilson all played in an era with the Elite of the Elite Tom Brady winning all the Superbowls. Yet all of their teams had sustained success for their entire careers, making the playoffs practically wvery year. Find me a team that has had sustained success over the past 10 to 20 years without having an elite QB? Their are several one off SB winners that had absolutely incredible defenses and good run games, but they fall off quickly.
BTW, the Niners and Jimmy G won't make it past the NFCC game. Elite Tom Brady is about to take the Bucs to back to back Superbowls.
Dallas Tony Romo............ Vikings with Cousins, Rams Goff, Next Argument.