OrangeGravy":150mgev2 said:
keasley45":150mgev2 said:
The plays that are being drawn up work more often than they dont. Can we run more screens? yeah. but we did when Geno was in ... but not with russ. the WR's are open. We crapped 14 points in the first half on plays Erin would have made in a heartbeat, yet we sit her squablng about conspiracy theories that have a coach apparently deliberately sacking plays that work so that he can force his particular style of play... even in games where we run 11 times against 40 throws.
It might be hard to sometimes see the flaws in the sports heroes we choose to follow. but seeing the basics of x's and o's aint all that complicated. The problem here is beyond obvious and has been for a while, whether we choose to believe it or not. Doesnt matter who the OC is or how complex the scheme. if the QB cant make the presnap read to hit the right play or get the ball out on time, nothing is going to work.
It's maddening. I think the biggest indictment of Pete is not handcuffing Russ or refusing to change with the times like everyone parrots endlessly without actually being able to tell you how (4th down stuff aside), but was his capitulation to Russell. He got away from who he is as a coach to accommodate the QB. It's a dangerous move to put your fate in someone else's hands.
Bill did it right. He never compromised. They won a lot and Tom left when he wanted to call the shots. Now Bill is spinning it up again with a solid rookie QB
Exactly. The proof is everywhere. go back and look at film of Russ's GREAT plays. They are all similar. broken tackle (whether because the line didnt hold or he held the ball too long), miraculous escape, crazy pass and catch. Over. and over . and over. Or deep play action drop and bombs away. And if you dont know any better you'd look at it and probably think - wow. this team is awful but for #3. And its all been hyped up even more by the media. Do you think they give two Sh!t$ about how a given play was SUPPOSED to work? No. All they care about is that #3 puts up some pretty sweet highlights.
And dont get me wrong, Russ is one of my all time favorite Hawks, But that doesnt make him God, especially when his flaws are on display and obvious week in and week out. And its all made worse when he seems to improve little now in year 10, and instead uses the media hype train to double down on the ' if only i had a better supporting cast ' narrative. But again, the media doesnt care, and the majority of the fans get their opinons more from the highlight reels or the gameday broadcast that show less than half of what actually happens on a given play.
But its #3 who is in part responsible for how bad they look. Guarantee you without the ALL22, the vast majority of fans walk away from the game against the Pack saying RW was a little rusty but his offense is horrible... or that the game went EXACTLY how Pete wanted it. BS. It was 0-3 in the 4th because we crapped the bed in big moments... and why? just like you said... PC relented, let his QB and OC run things the way they wanted, and despite again the running game being a strength of the offense, and again watching Russ miss play after play, let his QB throw friggin 40 times against 11 runs. Tell me what experienced NFL OC, HC or QB would look at a game where its basically a draw going into the final stanza and come to the decision that throwing is the best thing to do all game??
I can answer that. One where the HC who is KNOWN FOR SMASHMOUTH BALL, caters to his QB and lets him play sandlot ball.
It worked 3 years ago when Russ had speed and defenses hadnt yet seen all of his tendencies. But with the continued stubborn rejection of the run game and passes to the TE's, there's no way in the world this offense will ever be anything again through the air. Defenses have seen it all. and frankly, their disregard for our ability to exploit their strategies is embarrassing. They invite us to do it and instead we fold up and die.