Chris Clemons

[seahawk 17]

Miller has been more of a offensive tackle than a tight end for the last two seasons. For the price and what he does, should just keep him. On the flip side Finley intrigues me and has already stated he wouldn't mind playing here.

 

[kearly]

Perhaps ungrateful was the wrong choice of wording.

How about ...... that has such an arrogant and dismissive tone to it.

Edit: The key word is tone.

That's just the way T-Sizzle talks normally. I consider it his accent.

 

[checkdanews]

Remember guys...WE are all Seahawks fans. We all love these guys and hate to see them go.



Unless your name is Kelly Jennings.....or Aaron Curry.....Or...well just insert about 98.8% of all Ruskell draft picks *here*

Sidenote: THANK THE LORD FOR PETE AND JOHN!!!!
:0190l:

 

[Hasselbeck]

$2.2Million out of the $9.6million is dead money. So the saving is $7.5 million by cutting Clemons. Now are we happy with what we got or would we need one more player? If you need another player then you are spending some more money. So the question quickly does not become how do you cut $9 million but are you losing to much for the $5-$6million that you end up saving.

It isn't $9million coming off the books.

My belief is that we re-sign Avril to get him down from $7million guaranteed this year to a four year deal, cut Clemons, cut Miller and extend Sherman - all this season. Then draft for OL, WR, TE

All semantics really.. and after it was revealed Bennett is actually making 7.5 mil a year (holy crap JS!) .. that figure is going to replace Clemons 7.5 figure you would think.

I'd love to have Clemons back for 1 or 2 years at maybe 2-3M a year.. but aside from that I think it's time to move on and wish him well. He had a good postseason and great Super Bowl, but the fact remains he's nearly 33 years old making the 3rd most money on the roster right now. That's just not going to work this year. Same feelings about Zach Miller.. I love the guy.. but if that money locks up Earl Thomas and Clemons money locks up Sherman.. that trumps all IMO.

 

[EastCoastHawksFan]

I want to puke every time one of you endorses Finley . Finley is soft , drops everything that matters , and is coming off a pretty serious injury .

I don't mind if they brought him in for Vet minimum , other then that he isn't worth it.

 

[seahawk12thman]

I want to puke every time one of you endorses Finley . Finley is soft , drops everything that matters , and is coming off a pretty serious injury .

I don't mind if they brought him in for Vet minimum , other then that he isn't worth it.

Well that is the beauty isn't it. We can bring in the best and make them prove their worth to be on our team...

 

[ivotuk]

The Seattle Seahawks gave Chris Clemons the opportunity to transition from a part time pass rush specialist to a complete well rounded force. His adaptation and resulting production in Seattle have been stellar. How ironic, that after having proven so much about his individual play as a starter, he would now be confronting a league trend toward sharing snaps among a larger group of rotating linemen.

My guess is that Chris can play at least another 3 seasons. In my mind, it all comes down to what Chris wants to do and what goals he wishes to work for now that he has his superbowl ring. His game is so well rounded and so complete that he continues to have great value both as a player and as a mentor of young prospects.

I remain a Chris Clemons fan ...... anticipating another chapter of his career.

I think is this absolutely correct, despite his age, Clemons hasn't played that many snaps. He spent a lot of time on the bench because no one knew how to use him properly. We saw the same thing with Marcus Allen when Undead AL got mad at him for some reason and refused to play him.

So Allen sat for a year or two, collected his money, then went to Kansas City and kicked ass. I can see the same thing with Clemons, who still has value as a run-stopper and pass rusher.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

TE Jermichael Finley is a very real option. He and Willson could be a very viable 1-2 TE setup. Finley blocks well and Willson would be more of the flex guy in the slot, down the seam, etc.

Finley should come fairly cheap too after his injury.

That's mucho risky not sure I like it at all.

 

[Hasselbeck]

The Seattle Seahawks gave Chris Clemons the opportunity to transition from a part time pass rush specialist to a complete well rounded force. His adaptation and resulting production in Seattle have been stellar. How ironic, that after having proven so much about his individual play as a starter, he would now be confronting a league trend toward sharing snaps among a larger group of rotating linemen.

My guess is that Chris can play at least another 3 seasons. In my mind, it all comes down to what Chris wants to do and what goals he wishes to work for now that he has his superbowl ring. His game is so well rounded and so complete that he continues to have great value both as a player and as a mentor of young prospects.

I remain a Chris Clemons fan ...... anticipating another chapter of his career.

I think is this absolutely correct, despite his age, Clemons hasn't played that many snaps. He spent a lot of time on the bench because no one knew how to use him properly. We saw the same thing with Marcus Allen when Undead AL got mad at him for some reason and refused to play him.

So Allen sat for a year or two, collected his money, then went to Kansas City and kicked ass. I can see the same thing with Clemons, who still has value as a run-stopper and pass rusher.

No one is denying he doesn't have value.. its just his value is not 9.6 million a year

Unless he takes a massive pay cut.. it's time to move on.

 

[ManBunts]

I want to puke every time one of you endorses Finley . Finley is soft , drops everything that matters , and is coming off a pretty serious injury .

I don't mind if they brought him in for Vet minimum , other then that he isn't worth it.

Well that is the beauty isn't it. We can bring in the best and make them prove their worth to be on our team...

Can someone please tell me why people are excited by Finley? I hate to see a guy suffer the kind of injury he did, I hope he comes back, but we haven't even seen if he can come back! Injury aside, the guy drops way too many passes, and we need a TE that can multi-task. Per this handy little breakdown, Finley has only pass-blocked 7% of the time. We're a run first team. I keep reading a lot of "Miller is a blocker but..." statements, and I don't think people understand how valuable that extra "lineman" is to us.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2 ... -receiver/

 

[Jville]

Perhaps ungrateful was the wrong choice of wording.

How about ...... that has such an arrogant and dismissive tone to it.

Edit: The key word is tone.

That's just the way T-Sizzle talks normally. I consider it his accent.

T-Sizzle's accent ... LOL ... I'm ok with it. I slip up on my accent from time to time.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

Have bennett....time to release clem unless he takes a significant pay cut.

But don't you think he might be open to a restructure?

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

$2.2Million out of the $9.6million is dead money. So the saving is $7.5 million by cutting Clemons. Now are we happy with what we got or would we need one more player? If you need another player then you are spending some more money. So the question quickly does not become how do you cut $9 million but are you losing to much for the $5-$6million that you end up saving.

It isn't $9million coming off the books.

My belief is that we re-sign Avril to get him down from $7million guaranteed this year to a four year deal, cut Clemons, cut Miller and extend Sherman - all this season. Then draft for OL, WR, TE

All semantics really.. and after it was revealed Bennett is actually making 7.5 mil a year (holy crap JS!) .. that figure is going to replace Clemons 7.5 figure you would think.

I'd love to have Clemons back for 1 or 2 years at maybe 2-3M a year.. but aside from that I think it's time to move on and wish him well. He had a good postseason and great Super Bowl, but the fact remains he's nearly 33 years old making the 3rd most money on the roster right now. That's just not going to work this year. Same feelings about Zach Miller.. I love the guy.. but if that money locks up Earl Thomas and Clemons money locks up Sherman.. that trumps all IMO.

Make that 7.1 and a cap/team friendly deal why not give Chris a chance to do the same?

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

TE Jermichael Finley is a very real option. He and Willson could be a very viable 1-2 TE setup. Finley blocks well and Willson would be more of the flex guy in the slot, down the seam, etc.

Finley should come fairly cheap too after his injury.

That's mucho risky not sure I like it at all.

 

[seahawk12thman]

I want to puke every time one of you endorses Finley . Finley is soft , drops everything that matters , and is coming off a pretty serious injury .

I don't mind if they brought him in for Vet minimum , other then that he isn't worth it.

Well that is the beauty isn't it. We can bring in the best and make them prove their worth to be on our team...

Can someone please tell me why people are excited by Finley? I hate to see a guy suffer the kind of injury he did, I hope he comes back, but we haven't even seen if he can come back! Injury aside, the guy drops way too many passes, and we need a TE that can multi-task. Per this handy little breakdown, Finley has only pass-blocked 7% of the time. We're a run first team. I keep reading a lot of "Miller is a blocker but..." statements, and I don't think people understand how valuable that extra "lineman" is to us.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2 ... -receiver/

Big Body receiver and a red zone option not to mention he is fast as He**. Sounds great to me!!

 

[fenderbender123]

I think we re-sign Clemons because he's really good.

 

[Lady Talon]

We have several cheap DE options capable of rotating well with Bennett, Mayowa can get some snaps, Irvin can sub in with MS likely starting, could re-sign Schofield cheap to sub on run downs.

I suspect PC/JS will look to go younger and much cheaper rotation and see what we have behind the high paid players.

$9.7 is just too big a hit. Got Avril on the other side hitting us $9.2m. Might as well give Clemons a shot at FA instead of insulting him with a half paycheck, IMO.

 

[Hasselbeck]

Make that 7.1 and a cap/team friendly deal why not give Chris a chance to do the same?

If he took a pay cut down to like.. 1 for $3M, 2 for $6M or something, then sure.. entertain that. He's owed 9.6 mil in 2014 though.. way too much for a near 33 year old DE coming off an ACL injury.

 

[kidhawk]

$2.2Million out of the $9.6million is dead money. So the saving is $7.5 million by cutting Clemons. Now are we happy with what we got or would we need one more player? If you need another player then you are spending some more money. So the question quickly does not become how do you cut $9 million but are you losing to much for the $5-$6million that you end up saving.

It isn't $9million coming off the books.

My belief is that we re-sign Avril to get him down from $7million guaranteed this year to a four year deal, cut Clemons, cut Miller and extend Sherman - all this season. Then draft for OL, WR, TE

All semantics really.. and after it was revealed Bennett is actually making 7.5 mil a year (holy crap JS!) .. that figure is going to replace Clemons 7.5 figure you would think.

I'd love to have Clemons back for 1 or 2 years at maybe 2-3M a year.. but aside from that I think it's time to move on and wish him well. He had a good postseason and great Super Bowl, but the fact remains he's nearly 33 years old making the 3rd most money on the roster right now. That's just not going to work this year. Same feelings about Zach Miller.. I love the guy.. but if that money locks up Earl Thomas and Clemons money locks up Sherman.. that trumps all IMO.

It doesn't work as simple as that. Basically Clemons is due a raise of $1.5 million this year over last. Bennett just got a raise and it's said he'll be paid $10 million this year. Problem is we don't know how much of that is signing bonus. Let's assume that $5 million is a signing bonus and he's getting a $5 million dollar salary. I think this is probably going to err on the high side as far as my cap calculation....he's actual salary against the cap would only be $1.4 million more dollars this year than last. This is only a total of $2.9 million more money between the two of them. The cap went up around $10 million this off season and we cut 2 high priced vets, so even while keeping Clemons (so far) and signing Bennet, we've likely added less than $3 million in cap over last year, leaving all the money we saved from Rice/Bryant, plus another $10 million from the cap increase.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

Make that 7.1 and a cap/team friendly deal why not give Chris a chance to do the same?

If he took a pay cut down to like.. 1 for $3M, 2 for $6M or something, then sure.. entertain that. He's owed 9.6 mil in 2014 though.. way too much for a near 33 year old DE coming off an ACL injury.

I'm talking about Bennett not Clemons. If it were me I would offer Clemons a restructure and if he refused? Cut him before that roster bonus.