toffee
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It was all Pete's fault, Russell of course could handle whatever the defense game planned against him. It's Pete that was too slow to make adjustment at the line of scrimmage.hawk45":1k5vvxkt said:Show the tape of Wilson not being hesitant vs zone under in the short middle, not some “facts” you cherry pick and massage.John63":1k5vvxkt said:hawk45":1k5vvxkt said:I feel Russ is limited when it comes to using areas of the field to help vs 2 high and pass rush, and also that Russ inexplicably ignores blitzing corners or safeties off the edge, creating sacks that are attributed to OL but are all Russ.Scorpion05":1k5vvxkt said:The people being disingenuous, are the ones that are openly ignoring stats and actual production to suggest that Rodgers would somehow outperform Russ on the Seahawks. You’re all pretending Rodgers is this short/intermediate passing QB whose time to throw isn’t literally 2.7 seconds or longer every season.
Also, Russ’ O-line has consistently been worse than Rodgers in pass block win rate. Why would you openly ignore that? Russ’ O-line has only ever finished middle of the pack or worse. And it finished middle of the pack, because the pass protection for the back half of the season was terrible. The O-line was top 5 for the first 6 weeks and during that time, Rodgers couldn’t hold Wilson’s jockstrap.
That said I firmly believe OL should be a much higher priority. Which is why I dislike drafting an okay WR3 rather than a center who, even if he doesn’t play immediately, provides depth, because our OL is often thwarted by injury as much as anything else.
Russ has proven he can be productive with a receiving core of Tate, Baldwin, and jermaine Kearse. He can throw to nobodies, what he doesn’t do well is get the ball out quickly over the short middle.
well the facts show he can do all those things you seem to think he can't do, but that's okay. also he has shown he can get the ball out quickly over the short middle., Just because you dont do it alot does not mean you can't, The system they use does not call for short middle. Remember PC has said he does not like short middle to much possibility of hit, batted balls and there for high risk. Historically speakign in PC as a coached teams they dont use shor tmiddle much that is a system thing not a QB thing.
Because I can show you multiple open routes over short middle that Wilson ignored in a single game and sometimes series where you can see Wilson looking at them so the vaunted “but...but...progression” excuse you’re so fond of isn’t available
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