Dak is a winner

[Chawker]

In my humble opinion, no.... To be considered a "winner" one must have a ring to proof he is one. Dak no, Russ yes.
Cheers

 

[Seymour]

......I think this game is going to be a ton tougher than you think it is, and I believe our linebackers will make it very hard to do some of the things you want to do.......

This is a 50/50 game as far as I'm concerned, and both teams have improved.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

This game is a total tossup, clearly can go either way. I think it comes right down to the wire, and the teams seem to be very evenly matched imo. And they are 7-1 at home, that's not an accident. I know there's not much of a home field advantage there, but 7-1 says it all.

 

[BirdsCommaAngry]

Most of the playoff QBs are winners. That's kinda how they got drafted, became the starter, and made the playoffs.

 

[quadsas]

Fair enough, when he wins a playoff game, I'll likely change my view a little bit. But not being impressed by a guy equals butt hurt? Ok then.......
Isn't a message board about opinions? So if we are not impressed with every player we go against, we are somehow butt hurt and/or it's automatically them "dissing" the Hawks? Nah
There are quite a few QB's in the league that are better than Dak. Shoot, I know a lot of Cowboy fans, very few of them are happy with Dak as their QB. More often they are wondering which Dak will show up, let alone if he'll ever be a clutch big game QB. Of course, coming from Dallas, the standard is pretty high after you have guys like Staubach and Aikman in the past......

I wasn't directing the "butthurt" at you..................IMO these threads are butthurt. The OP didn't even link up anything, just said "hey everyone says Dak's a winner!"

When it was probably one person they saw on TV. No one outside of Skip Bayless thinks Dak is a better QB than Russell, so what the hell is this thread even talking about.

Well then I suggest you look up what media says about Dak. Ive never said media says Dak is better than Russell, did I, you doofus? Stop twisting my words. This is about media saying Dak is a winner, regular season games maybe, aka the ones that matter the least

 

[Uncle Si]

A winner is a guy like Wilson, or to give the best example, Brady. Someone who would never ever give up, completely inspire the whole team and make THE plays. aka something Peyton has never been able to do, something Dak, when given a chance, hasn't been able to do. If you think winning 12 games in regular season and getting regularly bounced in playoffs is 'winning' then your perception of what matters in sports (aka actual wins, the championships) is flawed. Guys like Kobe, Jordan, Brady, etc. have the mentality of winning the game at any cost, not just saying 'oh i hate losing, i want to win'. For them it's natural, they have the clutch gene, so does Wilson. Dak hasn't shown that yet.

Never...

Except the two super bowl wins?

Come on.. i get the Dak take, but manning is something altogether different

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Sure he's a "winner"
But he still hasn't proven he can win the big game. When he does, I'll be the first to tip my cap.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Fair enough, when he wins a playoff game, I'll likely change my view a little bit. But not being impressed by a guy equals butt hurt? Ok then.......
Isn't a message board about opinions? So if we are not impressed with every player we go against, we are somehow butt hurt and/or it's automatically them "dissing" the Hawks? Nah
There are quite a few QB's in the league that are better than Dak. Shoot, I know a lot of Cowboy fans, very few of them are happy with Dak as their QB. More often they are wondering which Dak will show up, let alone if he'll ever be a clutch big game QB. Of course, coming from Dallas, the standard is pretty high after you have guys like Staubach and Aikman in the past......

I wasn't directing the "butthurt" at you..................IMO these threads are butthurt. The OP didn't even link up anything, just said "hey everyone says Dak's a winner!"

When it was probably one person they saw on TV. No one outside of Skip Bayless thinks Dak is a better QB than Russell, so what the hell is this thread even talking about.

Well then I suggest you look up what media says about Dak. Ive never said media says Dak is better than Russell, did I, you doofus? Stop twisting my words. This is about media saying Dak is a winner, regular season games maybe, aka the ones that matter the least

Who said Dak is a winner? Where's the link? Who said he's better than Russell?

This is just a nonsense conversation. I'm not twisting anyone's words, I'm saying this is a non conversation created completely out of something you may or MAY NOT have actually even seen or heard.

Yes Dak's a winner, so is Russell. Stop the presses!!

 

[Aw Mang]

Dak is not a loser but he hasn’t won anything yet, so please pump the brake on that “winner” thing please.

 

[quadsas]

A winner is a guy like Wilson, or to give the best example, Brady. Someone who would never ever give up, completely inspire the whole team and make THE plays. aka something Peyton has never been able to do, something Dak, when given a chance, hasn't been able to do. If you think winning 12 games in regular season and getting regularly bounced in playoffs is 'winning' then your perception of what matters in sports (aka actual wins, the championships) is flawed. Guys like Kobe, Jordan, Brady, etc. have the mentality of winning the game at any cost, not just saying 'oh i hate losing, i want to win'. For them it's natural, they have the clutch gene, so does Wilson. Dak hasn't shown that yet.

Never...

Except the two super bowl wins?

Come on.. i get the Dak take, but manning is something altogether different

He won cause he's a great quarterback, possibly the greatest skillset of all time. But he's a massive loser. Take a look at his career, and especially take a look at how 'he won' those rings, then come back to me. If you still think he's a winner, I've got nothing to you, you're probably happy when Seahawks go 9-7

 

[kobebryant]

Wins are not an individual stat in any team sport. There are just too many variables.

 

[quadsas]

Wins are not an individual stat in any team sport. There are just too many variables.

But wait, if you win as a team, the quarterback is automatically a big winner, what you talkin about?

 

[johneric8]

......I think this game is going to be a ton tougher than you think it is, and I believe our linebackers will make it very hard to do some of the things you want to do.......

This is a 50/50 game as far as I'm concerned, and both teams have improved.

I agree both teams are much better so it's an interesting matchup because the teams somewhat mirror each other.
It really is a hard game to determine the outcome.... I honestly wonder how much having Earl Thomas helped you the first time around since he had a monster game? I'm excited, and I'm hopeful that the best team on Saturday wins without the refs getting involved too much.

 

[kobebryant]

Wins are not an individual stat in any team sport. There are just too many variables.

But wait, if you win as a team, the quarterback is automatically a big winner, what you talkin about?

Unless we're talking about individual athletes, like say, Serena Williams (probably the biggest winner in modem sports), it is a logical fallacy to attribute wins and losses to any one individual.

 

[Sports Hernia]

......I think this game is going to be a ton tougher than you think it is, and I believe our linebackers will make it very hard to do some of the things you want to do.......

This is a 50/50 game as far as I'm concerned, and both teams have improved.

I agree both teams are much better so it's an interesting matchup because the teams somewhat mirror each other.
It really is a hard game to determine the outcome.... I honestly wonder how much having Earl Thomas helped you the first time around since he had a monster game? I'm excited, and I'm hopeful that the best team on Saturday wins without the refs getting involved too much.

If I remember right Baldwin, KJ, and Britt didn’t play in the first meeting as well.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Good point, really they are completely different teams than way back in week 3. This is just an outstanding matchup overall. Both very good running games, both teams with a mobile QB etc.

 

[quadsas]

Wins are not an individual stat in any team sport. There are just too many variables.

But wait, if you win as a team, the quarterback is automatically a big winner, what you talkin about?

Unless we're talking about individual athletes, like say, Serena Williams (probably the biggest winner in modem sports), it is a logical fallacy to attribute wins and losses to any one individual.

I know, I was mocking people who say that because you win regular season games youre given the label of a winner. like Peyton

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Wins are not an individual stat in any team sport. There are just too many variables.

But wait, if you win as a team, the quarterback is automatically a big winner, what you talkin about?

Unless we're talking about individual athletes, like say, Serena Williams (probably the biggest winner in modem sports), it is a logical fallacy to attribute wins and losses to any one individual.

I know, I was mocking people who say that because you win regular season games youre given the label of a winner. like Peyton

You have to win a lot of regular season games to qualify for the postseason.

Not sure if you knew that.

 

[quadsas]

But wait, if you win as a team, the quarterback is automatically a big winner, what you talkin about?

Unless we're talking about individual athletes, like say, Serena Williams (probably the biggest winner in modem sports), it is a logical fallacy to attribute wins and losses to any one individual.

I know, I was mocking people who say that because you win regular season games youre given the label of a winner. like Peyton

You have to win a lot of regular season games to qualify for the postseason.

Not sure if you knew that.

So I guess if you miss the playoffs you're automatically disqualified from being a winner. smh. I know for regular people its a tough concept to understand at first, cause we are losers in comparison, but eventually, you will become demigod enough to realise what winning is

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Unless we're talking about individual athletes, like say, Serena Williams (probably the biggest winner in modem sports), it is a logical fallacy to attribute wins and losses to any one individual.

I know, I was mocking people who say that because you win regular season games youre given the label of a winner. like Peyton

You have to win a lot of regular season games to qualify for the postseason.

Not sure if you knew that.

So I guess if you miss the playoffs you're automatically disqualified from being a winner.

You're certainly less of a winner than if you make the postseason eleven straight times. Besides, I thought it was all about titles with you.

You're going to need to allow for degrees here. "Playoff chokers" like Manning, Romo, and Ryan aren't the same degree of winning as Brady, but they're still more of a winner than Mark Sanchez, Austin Davis, or Tyrod Taylor.