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Marvin49":wcumstyj said:
Marvin any truth to the rumor he would rather retire first? :stirthepot:
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Marvin any truth to the rumor he would rather retire first? :stirthepot:
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massari":1duyxp5u said:
Like that is gonna happen. Russell won't take a pay cut for ANYONE.
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rideaducati":2vggdvt4 said:
Nor should he or anyone else for that matter. Would you take a pay cut from your job so that your employer can fit someone else in your organization?
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hawkfan68":18c0fkm7 said:
No, but I wouldn't demand so much money that the organization had to let someone else go because they paid me so much either.
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rideaducati":3bpsc8q7 said:
It's not Russell's fault that the market is high dollar for his position. Take the difference in money out of the equation. If your organization gives you a raise or another org hires you, then indirectly you are impacting another individual(s) in that organization in some way. Either they are paying someone else less or even worse letting someone go to accomodate the increase. So yes, you do have an impact on the org. Maybe not at the level RW does but you still do for your organization. A person's salary is an expense in any organization, whether it's the Seattle Seahawks or Joe's coffee shop. So yours, mine, and anyone's elses salary is an expense for our resepective companies.
Getting back on topic, the Seahawks have plenty of money to sign Mathis if they wish. The question is whether they want to bring him in the fold. I don't believe they will unless a significant injury happens. I hope they do sign him (not because of injury). A vet like Mathis' would be good add for the OL and team.
hawkfan68":3lax7vqd said:
If I'm Wilson, I want max protection on the line to protect my physical health for a longer more productive career/life and to go along with that I'd want more money going into the rest of the team to build a dynasty, which means more off the field cash/recognition/HOF ect ect ect.
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massari":ydbrjpod said:
A lot of QBs have taken pay cuts and restructures to increase their team's chances of winning. It doesn't sound like Wilson will be one of them, but that doesn't mean it's an absurd or totally unheard of idea.
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Name one QB who "took a pay cut" in his first real contract
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bigskydoc":2bbih50x said:
You're right that a franchise QB can't exactly take a "pay cut" coming off a rookie deal.
But did Cam Newton get as much as he possibly could as a free agent if he had waited it out to get an Aaron Rodgers-type deal and forced Carolina to franchise him? Absolutely not, in fact he agreed to lower his base salary and cap hit this year in order to get a team-friendly extension in place. I expect Luck to do the same when he signs his extension next year.
The supply vs. demand for a franchise QB is totally out of whack in the NFL. There are so many desperate teams out there seemingly willing to release half their roster for a franchise QB that it is virtually limitless how much one could demand if he was willing to wreak havoc on his own team. Perhaps it is time for a max salary like the NBA implemented.
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Yeah, but he's al not very good so it's not really a fair comparison.Marvin49":du55bwyw said:bigskydoc":du55bwyw said:
If you mean sign a team friendly deal, I can think of one.
SacHawk2.0":n68ky66w said:Yeah, but he's al not very good so it's not really a fair comparison.Marvin49":n68ky66w said:bigskydoc":n68ky66w said:
If you mean sign a team friendly deal, I can think of one.
If you say so.
Didn't stop people all over this sight from calling him an idiot for signing it.
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Marvin49":il13q756 said:bigskydoc":il13q756 said:
If you mean sign a team friendly deal, I can think of one.
How friendly of a deal is it for the niners Marv... They are paying a whole lot of money for an awful QB.
rideaducati":28slyskj said:Marvin49":28slyskj said:bigskydoc":28slyskj said:
If you mean sign a team friendly deal, I can think of one.
How friendly of a deal is it for the niners Marv... They are paying a whole lot of money for an awful QB.
As with all things. We'll see.
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http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/06/19/evan-m ... chip-kelly
This is a pretty interesting article about Mathis. The writer first notes that, over the last four seasons, Mathis have been ranked first, first, first and second in the PFF guard rankings. He was downgraded only once every 16.4 snaps as a run blocker.
The writer then begins "digging for negative plays for this piece." He wants to "see if [this anecdotal evidence] indicates a larger problem." The thing that makes the article somewhat interesting is the fact that Mathis gives his own response to these plays.
One of the plays was against the Seahawks:
Mathis gets a good initial push on Tony McDaniel, driving him passed the LOS, but McDaniel uses his power to knock Mathis off balance, keeps his eyes on the backfield, and gets to McCoy for the assist. Williams also did an admirable job on this play, driving into the backfield and splitting two double teams to make a pile. K.J. Wright does not read the back well and bites down hard. Chancellor seems to hesitate and looks a step too late on this play. If he had stepped toward McCoy with his right leg to maintain inside leverage, he might have cut him off and prevented the first down. I guess that's easier said than done against a shifty back like McCoy.
The fact that the writer was digging for dirt, and this was one of the worst plays he could come with, is fairly telling.
This is a pretty interesting article about Mathis. The writer first notes that, over the last four seasons, Mathis have been ranked first, first, first and second in the PFF guard rankings. He was downgraded only once every 16.4 snaps as a run blocker.
The writer then begins "digging for negative plays for this piece." He wants to "see if [this anecdotal evidence] indicates a larger problem." The thing that makes the article somewhat interesting is the fact that Mathis gives his own response to these plays.
One of the plays was against the Seahawks:
Mathis gets a good initial push on Tony McDaniel, driving him passed the LOS, but McDaniel uses his power to knock Mathis off balance, keeps his eyes on the backfield, and gets to McCoy for the assist. Williams also did an admirable job on this play, driving into the backfield and splitting two double teams to make a pile. K.J. Wright does not read the back well and bites down hard. Chancellor seems to hesitate and looks a step too late on this play. If he had stepped toward McCoy with his right leg to maintain inside leverage, he might have cut him off and prevented the first down. I guess that's easier said than done against a shifty back like McCoy.
The fact that the writer was digging for dirt, and this was one of the worst plays he could come with, is fairly telling.
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There's one pretty well documented case, but he got crap for doing it from nearly everyone.
That is a good interesting article. It sounds as if he would be extremely valuable to us for a couple of years while we train our new guys, who are also very quick, and would benefit from copying and talking with a top guard with their own attributes. I hope we sign him right after we sign Wagner.
