If it's not Bevell

[NFSeahawks]

Lets just do the Pete thing and say the team is fine, we had a good year, 9-7 is solid.

 

[KitsapGuy]

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[Sox-n-Hawks]

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If we can have 2004 Hutch at LT.

 

[Uncle Si]

While everyone is clutching their pearls about being passed by, their aren’t any stats for special teams listed. Might’ve been the difference between 9-7 and 11-5 this year.

Changes certainly need to occur. But that part of the team and the significance it played this season can’t be ignored when discussing the current status.

 

[Sox-n-Hawks]

While everyone is clutching their pearls about being passed by, their aren’t any stats for special teams listed. Might’ve been the difference between 9-7 and 11-5 this year.

Changes certainly need to occur. But that part of the team and the significance it played this season can’t be ignored when discussing the current status.

Very valid point. This is likely the biggest impact that having Sherman and Kam on the sidelines made.

 

[WindCityHawk]

Seattle Seahawks

Offense
2016 PPG: 22.1
2017 PPG: 22.9

2016: OYRD/G: 330.4
2017: OYRD/G: 357.2

Defense
2016: PAPG: 18.3
2017: PAPG: 20.8

2016: YAPG: 318.7
2017: YAPG: 323.2

2016: Turnover Ratio: +1
2017: Turnover Ratio: +8

2016 Record: 10-5-1, Division Champions, 1 Playoff win
2017 Record: 9-7, Out of the playoffs

The NFC has passed us by. It can't be just one thing. Lot has to change because next year our stats will probably go down as well.

Good lord. Maybe all we need is a better kicker.

 

[getnasty]

While everyone is clutching their pearls about being passed by, their aren’t any stats for special teams listed. Might’ve been the difference between 9-7 and 11-5 this year.

Changes certainly need to occur. But that part of the team and the significance it played this season can’t be ignored when discussing the current status.

Well seeing how we could have won 3 games with a different Kicker I'd say your right. Statistical our offensive numbers might not be off from when we went to the super bowls but they did it in a way different fashion. Our 2013/14 defense would have never let it come down to Blair Walsh too.

 

[seahawkfreak]

Seattle Seahawks

2016 Kickoff Returns: #8, 808yds, 0 TDs
2017 Kickoff Return: #2, 1004yds, 1TDs

2016 Punt Return: 249yds, Avg 8.3, 0 TDs
2017 Punt Return: 237yds, Avg 6.6, 0 TDs

2016 Punting: 3126 yds, Avg 44.0, Yards returned 236yds-Avg= 8.4
2017 Punting: 4141 yds, Avg 45.0, Yards returned 452yds-Avg= 10.0

2016 Kicking: FGs, 33/37, 89.2% EPs, 29/35, 82.9%= 128pts
2017 Kicking: FGs, 21/29, 72.4% EPs, 37/38, 97.4%= 100pts

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Seattle Seahawks

2016 Kickoff Returns: #8, 808yds, 0 TDs
2017 Kickoff Return: #2, 1004yds, 1TDs

2016 Punt Return: 249yds, Avg 8.3, 0 TDs
2017 Punt Return: 237yds, Avg 6.6, 0 TDs

2016 Punting: 3126 yds, Avg 44.0, Yards returned 236yds-Avg= 8.4
2017 Punting: 4141 yds, Avg 45.0, Yards returned 452yds-Avg= 10.0

2016 Kicking: FGs, 33/37, 89.2% EPs, 29/35, 82.9%= 128pts
2017 Kicking: FGs, 21/29, 72.4% EPs, 37/38, 97.4%= 100pts

When I first saw this post, I was going to say "yeah but strength of schedule. Did Seattle have a harder or easier schedule this year?"

Then I went and looked at the numbers and proved myself wrong.

126-130, 2017 (.492)
112-142-2, 2016 (.438)

So Seattle had a noticeably tougher schedule this year. And those numbers actually undersell the toughness of our 2017 slate because it includes the Packers and Texans, both teams that were considerably better when we played them because their QB's were healthy.

 

[Scorpion05]

Seattle Seahawks

2016 Kickoff Returns: #8, 808yds, 0 TDs
2017 Kickoff Return: #2, 1004yds, 1TDs

2016 Punt Return: 249yds, Avg 8.3, 0 TDs
2017 Punt Return: 237yds, Avg 6.6, 0 TDs

2016 Punting: 3126 yds, Avg 44.0, Yards returned 236yds-Avg= 8.4
2017 Punting: 4141 yds, Avg 45.0, Yards returned 452yds-Avg= 10.0

2016 Kicking: FGs, 33/37, 89.2% EPs, 29/35, 82.9%= 128pts
2017 Kicking: FGs, 21/29, 72.4% EPs, 37/38, 97.4%= 100pts

Unbelievable

 

[adeltaY]

Yeah Hauschka was just awful last year, right?

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Yeah Hauschka was just awful last year, right?

Everyone wanted him gone.

Okung, Unger, now Haushcka...yes, folks, cutting an underperformer really CAN just lead to worse.

 

[adeltaY]

I didn't want him gone. There's a reddit post that went through all of his missed kicks and almost every one had something to do with poor blocking or bad snaps.

 

[hawknation2017]

Yeah Hauschka was just awful last year, right?

Everyone wanted him gone.

Okung, Unger, now Haushcka...yes, folks, cutting an underperformer really CAN just lead to worse.

I didn't want any of those guys gone.

 

[Sports Hernia]

As seen in another thread, Baldwin commented on the offensive struggles and defended Bevell and the playcalling, so let's entertain that perspective. Let's say Bevell is actually great and the plays being called put us in the best position to succeed--what, then, is wrong?

Is it the QB play? Wilson accounted for an unprecedented percentage of the team's touchdowns this season, but is his erratic movement drawing penalties on the offensive line and prompting receivers to abandon their routes?

Is it the offensive line just not talented enough to compete at the pro level, which leads to whiffed blocks and penalties?

Are our running backs missing gaps and dancing too much? Or are they just too weak or slow?

Is our tight end blocking non-existent?

Are our receivers too slow? Too short? Incapable of getting open?

Or maybe there is no grand problem and a few tweaks here and there will propel this offense into the top five.

Note: this is not a threat to bash Bevell. We have enough of those for now. This thread presupposes Bevell is not a problem. So then: who or what is?

Of course Doug is going to defend Bevell, If he talks the truth about him he’s never getting his number called again.

 

[hawknation2017]

If Bevell were a general during the Civil War, he would be Gideon Pillow.

 

[JimmyG]

People believe that Wilson is this transcendent, MVP-caliber talent, but then simultaneously think that him disappearing for entire halves of football is because of playcalling. I'm sorry, but that is asinine. People have conditioned themselves to reflexively spew out drivel excuses like "poor pass protection" or "long-developing routes" every time he gets sacked. I'm sorry, but watch the game. There are countless times every single game that he takes a sack because he takes off at the first hint of pressure and complicates things for the entire offense. He is very inconsistent.

The pass protection was a lot better after the Duane Brown trade. Just off the top of my head, I can think of about 5-10 instant replays that showed a defensive end / edge rusher blowing straight past Duane Brown and pressuring Wilson. Why? Because Wilson rarely steps up into the pocket; instead of climbing the pocket, he runs backwards and renders the pocket absolutely worthless. That is not the line's fault, it is his own fault.

Yet again, his flaws were on full display in the first half of the game yesterday. The last drive before halftime was absolutely abysmal. Check out the YouTube link below. Wilson has a clean pocket here for at least 3 seconds. Instead of standing in the pocket and delivering a pass, he starts running around and takes a huge loss. This is 100% on him. Even if you think that our receivers were covered, there is no excuse for taking that big of a loss. This is a 17-yard loss! How many times do we have a drive killed because of a massive loss from him running backwards like this, or from him picking up intentional grounding, or from him dancing around and the OL racking up a holding call in the process?

Link to specific highlight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMyBtMf0JxY#t=3m56s

At times he takes over games, and at times he destroys the offense. He is maddeningly inconsistent.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

:snack:

 

[calinator]

People believe that Wilson is this transcendent, MVP-caliber talent, but then simultaneously think that him disappearing for entire halves of football is because of playcalling. I'm sorry, but that is asinine. People have conditioned themselves to reflexively spew out drivel excuses like "poor pass protection" or "long-developing routes" every time he gets sacked. I'm sorry, but watch the game. There are countless times every single game that he takes a sack because he takes off at the first hint of pressure and complicates things for the entire offense. He is very inconsistent.

The pass protection was a lot better after the Duane Brown trade. Just off the top of my head, I can think of about 5-10 instant replays that showed a defensive end / edge rusher blowing straight past Duane Brown and pressuring Wilson. Why? Because Wilson rarely steps up into the pocket; instead of climbing the pocket, he runs backwards and renders the pocket absolutely worthless. That is not the line's fault, it is his own fault.

Yet again, his flaws were on full display in the first half of the game yesterday. The last drive before halftime was absolutely abysmal. Check out the YouTube link below. Wilson has a clean pocket here for at least 3 seconds. Instead of standing in the pocket and delivering a pass, he starts running around and takes a huge loss. This is 100% on him. Even if you think that our receivers were covered, there is no excuse for taking that big of a loss. This is a 17-yard loss! How many times do we have a drive killed because of a massive loss from him running backwards like this, or from him picking up intentional grounding, or from him dancing around and the OL racking up a holding call in the process?

Link to specific highlight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMyBtMf0JxY#t=3m56s

At times he takes over games, and at times he destroys the offense. He is maddeningly inconsistent.

Good post.

 

[Aw Mang]

People believe that Wilson is this transcendent, MVP-caliber talent, but then simultaneously think that him disappearing for entire halves of football is because of playcalling.....

I am sorry, but are you new around here, or are you even new to football? Despite what you said about Russ, he has great stats, even better than that scum Brady. As long as our players have great stats, it’s ok to miss the playoffs. In Pete, and Bevell, we trust!!