Johnson Off the Table

[GemCity]

Wow…

 

[knownone]

It is possible. You don't have a second round pick, you have an older QB, your cap situation is terrible and you have one of the worst defenses in the league. I think there are enough positives though that someone could come in and do well but its going to be an uphill battle next year because of the defense/cap space and draft resources imo.

I'm not even talking about the on-field/cap situation. That's not a huge problem if a coach is given job security.

I'm referring to the long-term ownership situation, inheriting a GM with total control and a mandate to maintain its prior coach's culture. If you were a young coach with the clout to call your shots, like Ben Johnson, what's appealing about our situation? High expectations, tough division, less control. Johnson probably looked at that and asked for a Sean-Payton-style deal because, in his situation, that's the only reason to risk your long-term future to get into a possibly messy situation.

 

[morgulon1]

I'm not even talking about the on-field/cap situation. That's not a huge problem if a coach is given job security.

I'm referring to the long-term ownership situation, inheriting a GM with total control and a mandate to maintain its prior coach's culture. If you were a young coach with the clout to call your shots, like Ben Johnson, what's appealing about our situation? High expectations, tough division, less control. Johnson probably looked at that and asked for a Sean-Payton-style deal because, in his situation, that's the only reason to risk your long-term future to get into a possibly messy situation.

Great points worth considering.

 

[GemCity]

Next HC

 

[hoxrox]

I'm referring to the long-term ownership situation, inheriting a GM with total control and a mandate to maintain its prior coach's culture.

The directive was "positive culture" - that doesn't necessarily mean Pete's culture.

Also it was reported that BJ wanted too much $$.

 

[Chukarhawk]

I'm not even talking about the on-field/cap situation. That's not a huge problem if a coach is given job security.

I'm referring to the long-term ownership situation, inheriting a GM with total control and a mandate to maintain its prior coach's culture. If you were a young coach with the clout to call your shots, like Ben Johnson, what's appealing about our situation? High expectations, tough division, less control. Johnson probably looked at that and asked for a Sean-Payton-style deal because, in his situation, that's the only reason to risk your long-term future to get into a possibly messy situation.

all GM's have that power otherwise why have one?

 

[Hawknight]

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Heck, if they pay me enough..I'll read that book and start coaching...then I can spend the rest of my life hiding from the fan base and retire lol

 

[BlueTalon]

Is it possible the Seahawks are not that attractive to young head coaches? It sounds like Johnson took one look at his options and wanted no part of them.

Look once, interview twice. That's my motto.

 

[MyrtleHawk]

The directive was "positive culture" - that doesn't necessarily mean Pete's culture.

Also it was reported that BJ wanted too much $$.

Too much money for BJ? Some people are pretentious.

 

[chris98251]

Ownership is not going to change in the foreseeable future, Jody already confronted that topic, Prisco and Florio still post that crap for clicks.

 

[James in PA]

Is Ben Johnson represented by Mark Rogers?

 

[knownone]

all GM's have that power otherwise why have one?

They don't.

 

[ZagHawk]

Why don't we have any Johnson off the table jokes? Am I the only one who has a mind in the gutter? lol

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I'll stir my own coffee, thanks.

 

[knownone]

The directive was "positive culture" - that doesn't necessarily mean Pete's culture.

Also it was reported that BJ wanted too much $$.

The directive was to maintain the culture that was already in place. I guess that doesn't necessarily mean Pete's culture, despite him having been here for 14 years. In any case, that wasn't my point. My point was that the message is still more about Seattle than the coach, i.e., we want you to fit into what we've built rather than we want you to establish your own identity here. There's nothing wrong with Seattle's approach, but it's worth considering what impact it has on a valuable candidate with significant leverage.

And yes, sometimes you ask for more in a negotiation if the other party has a serious interest, but the situation is not ideal.

 

[CactusJack]

This whole process is way more stressful than it needs to be...

 

[keasley45]

He wanted to be paid a kings ransom. Seattle declined that, either made a counter offer or didn't, and he decided to go back to Detroit.

Good for John for not paying a guy 'hero' money when he's never been a HC in the league.

 

[keasley45]

This whole process is way more stressful than it needs to be...

For who? I doubt John is stressed.

 

[CactusJack]

For who? I doubt John is stressed.

I am.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Over something you have no control over. Meh