Locker room attendant being questioned

[50yrpatsfan]

Word is, the Refs have gauges to check per League regulation, and inflate, or Bradyflate the footballs to specifications set by the League.
There is no 'willy-nilly" about the procedures that are supposed to be followed.
When the League allows for both teams to "Bring Their Own Balls" to the Stadiums, it is opening up the opportunity for cheating to take place, and Tom Brady and the Patriots to take full advantage of that opportunity of doing just that.
Too late now to fix the wrongdoing that BB ,Tom, and the Patriots have gotten away with for several Years now, but I'm confident Goodell will do his best to smooth it all over.

Balls are checked before the game by the refs to make sure they are approved balls in proper spec for weight, size, and psi. Something caused 11 of the 12 Pats** balls to lose 2 lb of air pressure by halftime. Nothing caused any of the Colts balls to lose any air pressure.
Period.

Actually, semicolon; nobody has reported what the Colts balls starting psi was. If the Pats inflate to 12.5 and Colts to 13.5, there's most of the discrepancy right there. If the Colts don't wire-brush the footballs prior to giving them to the refs, there's the rest of the story. Easy story when you don't start with the presumption of guilt. But you'd rather have these evil ball boys ducking into restrooms. This is why in a real court of law they exclude potential jurors.

 

[Yoonhawk]

Word is, the Refs have gauges to check per League regulation, and inflate, or Bradyflate the footballs to specifications set by the League.
There is no 'willy-nilly" about the procedures that are supposed to be followed.
When the League allows for both teams to "Bring Their Own Balls" to the Stadiums, it is opening up the opportunity for cheating to take place, and Tom Brady and the Patriots to take full advantage of that opportunity of doing just that.
Too late now to fix the wrongdoing that BB ,Tom, and the Patriots have gotten away with for several Years now, but I'm confident Goodell will do his best to smooth it all over.

Balls are checked before the game by the refs to make sure they are approved balls in proper spec for weight, size, and psi. Something caused 11 of the 12 Pats** balls to lose 2 lb of air pressure by halftime. Nothing caused any of the Colts balls to lose any air pressure.
Period.

Actually, semicolon; nobody has reported what the Colts balls starting psi was. If the Pats inflate to 12.5 and Colts to 13.5, there's most of the discrepancy right there. If the Colts don't wire-brush the footballs prior to giving them to the refs, there's the rest of the story. Easy story when you don't start with the presumption of guilt. But you'd rather have these evil ball boys ducking into restrooms. This is why in a real court of law they exclude potential jurors.

Real courts of law also don't rely on a defendant's own "internal investigation," especially when the defendant admits that he lacks the expertise to even know what he's talking about.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Actually, semicolon; nobody has reported what the Colts balls starting psi was. If the Pats inflate to 12.5 and Colts to 13.5, there's most of the discrepancy right there. If the Colts don't wire-brush the footballs prior to giving them to the refs, there's the rest of the story. Easy story when you don't start with the presumption of guilt. But you'd rather have these evil ball boys ducking into restrooms. This is why in a real court of law they exclude potential jurors.

First, per a league source, the NFL has reviewed the entire process and determined that the balls were properly checked by the officials before the game. Which means that, when the balls left the possession of the referee, the pressure was at least 12.5 PSI and no more than 13.5 PSI.

The NFL determined that ALL the balls were properly checked prior to the game and deemed legal.........but only the Patriot's balls were determined to be deflated during the 1st half, but the officials decided to wait until halftime to re-inflate 11 of the 12 Patriot's balls.

So nice try, next excuse?

 

[12thManHawkFan]

Word is, the Refs have gauges to check per League regulation, and inflate, or Bradyflate the footballs to specifications set by the League.
There is no 'willy-nilly" about the procedures that are supposed to be followed.
When the League allows for both teams to "Bring Their Own Balls" to the Stadiums, it is opening up the opportunity for cheating to take place, and Tom Brady and the Patriots to take full advantage of that opportunity of doing just that.
Too late now to fix the wrongdoing that BB ,Tom, and the Patriots have gotten away with for several Years now, but I'm confident Goodell will do his best to smooth it all over.

Balls are checked before the game by the refs to make sure they are approved balls in proper spec for weight, size, and psi. Something caused 11 of the 12 Pats** balls to lose 2 lb of air pressure by halftime. Nothing caused any of the Colts balls to lose any air pressure.
Period.

Actually, semicolon; nobody has reported what the Colts balls starting psi was. If the Pats inflate to 12.5 and Colts to 13.5, there's most of the discrepancy right there. If the Colts don't wire-brush the footballs prior to giving them to the refs, there's the rest of the story. Easy story when you don't start with the presumption of guilt. But you'd rather have these evil ball boys ducking into restrooms. This is why in a real court of law they exclude potential jurors.

Youre still talkng about this wirebrush, fantasy land theory about exciting air and it is making you sound dumb man. That theory is fabricated and completely make believe, please stop putting it out there like its a fact.

 

[Phteven]

Word is, the Refs have gauges to check per League regulation, and inflate, or Bradyflate the footballs to specifications set by the League.
There is no 'willy-nilly" about the procedures that are supposed to be followed.
When the League allows for both teams to "Bring Their Own Balls" to the Stadiums, it is opening up the opportunity for cheating to take place, and Tom Brady and the Patriots to take full advantage of that opportunity of doing just that.
Too late now to fix the wrongdoing that BB ,Tom, and the Patriots have gotten away with for several Years now, but I'm confident Goodell will do his best to smooth it all over.

Balls are checked before the game by the refs to make sure they are approved balls in proper spec for weight, size, and psi. Something caused 11 of the 12 Pats** balls to lose 2 lb of air pressure by halftime. Nothing caused any of the Colts balls to lose any air pressure.
Period.

Actually, semicolon; nobody has reported what the Colts balls starting psi was. If the Pats inflate to 12.5 and Colts to 13.5, there's most of the discrepancy right there. If the Colts don't wire-brush the footballs prior to giving them to the refs, there's the rest of the story. Easy story when you don't start with the presumption of guilt. But you'd rather have these evil ball boys ducking into restrooms. This is why in a real court of law they exclude potential jurors.

Correction. Ball boy isn't evil. Ball boy is a patsy.

Also, do you know when and how to use a semicolon correctly? Just asking. Looking at your first sentence, you might consider leaving anything related to grammar out of your posts.

 

[50yrpatsfan]

Actually, semicolon; nobody has reported what the Colts balls starting psi was. If the Pats inflate to 12.5 and Colts to 13.5, there's most of the discrepancy right there. If the Colts don't wire-brush the footballs prior to giving them to the refs, there's the rest of the story. Easy story when you don't start with the presumption of guilt. But you'd rather have these evil ball boys ducking into restrooms. This is why in a real court of law they exclude potential jurors.

First, per a league source, the NFL has reviewed the entire process and determined that the balls were properly checked by the officials before the game. Which means that, when the balls left the possession of the referee, the pressure was at least 12.5 PSI and no more than 13.5 PSI.

The NFL determined that ALL the balls were properly checked prior to the game and deemed legal.........but only the Patriot's balls were determined to be deflated during the 1st half, but the officials decided to wait until halftime to re-inflate 11 of the 12 Patriot's balls.

So nice try, next excuse?

Did you know that both 12.5 and 13.5 are within the legal range, and that each team decides for itself? Pats have explained that they inflate to 12.5, but nobody has stated or verified what Indy's were inflated to. Could very well have been 13.5, just like Aaron Rodgers publicly stated he likes.

Not to mention that the NFL has officially provided NO measurement details on any of this, just that there were underinflated balls and that they are investigating it. All the rest is media publishing rumors. You understand that, right?

And in the announcement the league did make, they were not clear on the point of whether the pre-game testing was by gauge or just the squeeze test, but in the same announcement they were very explicit that the half time and post game tests were done by gauge.

 

[forgivenhawksfan]

Why would belicheat and brady lawyer up if they're innocent? John Clayton on Brock and Salk said they obtained lawyers before their press conferences.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Did you know that both 12.5 and 13.5 are within the legal range, and that each team decides for itself? Pats have explained that they inflate to 12.5, but nobody has stated or verified what Indy's were inflated to. Could very well have been 13.5, just like Aaron Rodgers publicly stated he likes..

Even if the Colts balls were inflated to the maximum limit of 13.5, and the external air temperature excuse that the Pat's have used to explain their balls going from 12.5 to 10.5 then the Colt's balls would have also dropped to an illegal PSI of 11.5 right?

But only one team's balls miraculously dropped to illegal limits.........thus why the refs only re-inflated the Pat's balls at halftime.

 

[Rex]

Word is, the Refs have gauges to check per League regulation, and inflate, or Bradyflate the footballs to specifications set by the League.
There is no 'willy-nilly" about the procedures that are supposed to be followed.
When the League allows for both teams to "Bring Their Own Balls" to the Stadiums, it is opening up the opportunity for cheating to take place, and Tom Brady and the Patriots to take full advantage of that opportunity of doing just that.
Too late now to fix the wrongdoing that BB ,Tom, and the Patriots have gotten away with for several Years now, but I'm confident Goodell will do his best to smooth it all over.

Balls are checked before the game by the refs to make sure they are approved balls in proper spec for weight, size, and psi. Something caused 11 of the 12 Pats** balls to lose 2 lb of air pressure by halftime. Nothing caused any of the Colts balls to lose any air pressure.
Period.

Actually, semicolon; nobody has reported what the Colts balls starting psi was. If the Pats inflate to 12.5 and Colts to 13.5, there's most of the discrepancy right there. If the Colts don't wire-brush the footballs prior to giving them to the refs, there's the rest of the story. Easy story when you don't start with the presumption of guilt. But you'd rather have these evil ball boys ducking into restrooms. This is why in a real court of law they exclude potential jurors.

Nonsense. Belicheat controlled the whole thing. Belicheat's home games are outside where it is cold. Indy's home games are in a dome. Yet Indy knows enough to compensate by inflating more? While Belicheat doesn't? Enjoy your forever tainted asterisk demanding legacy.

 

[Our Man in Chicago]

Why would belicheat and brady lawyer up if they're innocent? John Clayton on Brock and Salk said they obtained lawyers before their press conferences.

As someone who has worked in the legal field for more than half his life: everyone has the right to legal representation. Innocent people, as you know, have been (and, unfortunately, will be) convicted due to the lack of quality counsel. If they're 100% innocent or 100% guilty, the Patriots organization and its employees have this right and should exercise it.

 

[50yrpatsfan]

Word is, the Refs have gauges to check per League regulation, and inflate, or Bradyflate the footballs to specifications set by the League.
There is no 'willy-nilly" about the procedures that are supposed to be followed.
When the League allows for both teams to "Bring Their Own Balls" to the Stadiums, it is opening up the opportunity for cheating to take place, and Tom Brady and the Patriots to take full advantage of that opportunity of doing just that.
Too late now to fix the wrongdoing that BB ,Tom, and the Patriots have gotten away with for several Years now, but I'm confident Goodell will do his best to smooth it all over.

Balls are checked before the game by the refs to make sure they are approved balls in proper spec for weight, size, and psi. Something caused 11 of the 12 Pats** balls to lose 2 lb of air pressure by halftime. Nothing caused any of the Colts balls to lose any air pressure.
Period.

Actually, semicolon; nobody has reported what the Colts balls starting psi was. If the Pats inflate to 12.5 and Colts to 13.5, there's most of the discrepancy right there. If the Colts don't wire-brush the footballs prior to giving them to the refs, there's the rest of the story. Easy story when you don't start with the presumption of guilt. But you'd rather have these evil ball boys ducking into restrooms. This is why in a real court of law they exclude potential jurors.

Nonsense. Belicheat controlled the whole thing. Belicheat's home games are outside where it is cold. Indy's home games are in a dome. Yet Indy knows enough to compensate by inflating more? While Belicheat doesn't? Enjoy your forever tainted asterisk demanding legacy.

You my friend don't know wth you're talking about. The rule is that 2 hrs before the game, when the ref checks them, the balls have to be within 12.5 to 13.5. PERIOD, to steal a phrase. It's not incumbent on either team to inflate to a different level because it's going to be cold or wet outside. However, because cold and wet do affect psi, the league hasn't thought this out very well because ball pressure will decrease beyond a shadow of a doubt, and then you situations like this.

 

[Bobblehead]

Really? Officials are checking their balls in the latrine?


Well, where else would you check them I guess.

 

[UK_Seahawk]

Anyone else think there is an ideal advertising opportunity for Testicular Cancer charities with all this?

So many "check your balls" themed adverts spring to mind.

 

[Rex]

Actually, semicolon; nobody has reported what the Colts balls starting psi was. If the Pats inflate to 12.5 and Colts to 13.5, there's most of the discrepancy right there. If the Colts don't wire-brush the footballs prior to giving them to the refs, there's the rest of the story. Easy story when you don't start with the presumption of guilt. But you'd rather have these evil ball boys ducking into restrooms. This is why in a real court of law they exclude potential jurors.

Nonsense. Belicheat controlled the whole thing. Belicheat's home games are outside where it is cold. Indy's home games are in a dome. Yet Indy knows enough to compensate by inflating more? While Belicheat doesn't? Enjoy your forever tainted asterisk demanding legacy.

You my friend don't know wth you're talking about. The rule is that 2 hrs before the game, when the ref checks them, the balls have to be within 12.5 to 13.5. PERIOD, to steal a phrase. It's not incumbent on either team to inflate to a different level because it's going to be cold or wet outside. However, because cold and wet do affect psi, the league hasn't thought this out very well because ball pressure will decrease beyond a shadow of a doubt, and then you situations like this.

No you my friend cannot comprehend what you wrote and to which I responded. Read it again, but first take off your X-Ray glasses because there is no unfair advantage to be gained by wearing them here. Should make your otherwise complicated lie juggling existence somewhat easier.

 

[50yrpatsfan]

Actually, semicolon; nobody has reported what the Colts balls starting psi was. If the Pats inflate to 12.5 and Colts to 13.5, there's most of the discrepancy right there. If the Colts don't wire-brush the footballs prior to giving them to the refs, there's the rest of the story. Easy story when you don't start with the presumption of guilt. But you'd rather have these evil ball boys ducking into restrooms. This is why in a real court of law they exclude potential jurors.

Nonsense. Belicheat controlled the whole thing. Belicheat's home games are outside where it is cold. Indy's home games are in a dome. Yet Indy knows enough to compensate by inflating more? While Belicheat doesn't? Enjoy your forever tainted asterisk demanding legacy.

You my friend don't know wth you're talking about. The rule is that 2 hrs before the game, when the ref checks them, the balls have to be within 12.5 to 13.5. PERIOD, to steal a phrase. It's not incumbent on either team to inflate to a different level because it's going to be cold or wet outside. However, because cold and wet do affect psi, the league hasn't thought this out very well because ball pressure will decrease beyond a shadow of a doubt, and then you situations like this.

No you my friend cannot comprehend what you wrote and to which I responded. Read it again, but first take off your X-Ray glasses because there is no unfair advantage to be gained by wearing them here. Should make your otherwise complicated lie juggling existence somewhat easier.

Guess we're just not getting each other's point for some reason. My point was that it's perfectly OK/appropriate for NE to inflate to 12.5 and Indy to inflate to 13.5, and you seem to be disagreeing with that and saying that it was up to NE to inflate higher to account for the cold. That's just flat out a wrong statement.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

It wasn't that cold. Around 50* as I recall. A ball isn't going to lose 16% of its air pressure in an hour with at most a 20* difference in temperature. This has been discussed already.

 

[50yrpatsfan]

It wasn't that cold. Around 50* as I recall. A ball isn't going to lose 16% of its air pressure in an hour with at most a 20* difference in temperature. This has been discussed already.

I think that's probably true. It was more like a 25 degree diff, but most scientist comments I've seen say that could account for 1 psi at most, not 2. But there are other variables too like leather expanding when wet, the scrubbing process used, whether the balls were in fact a full 2 psi low, etc.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

You my friend don't know wth you're talking about. The rule is that 2 hrs before the game, when the ref checks them, the balls have to be within 12.5 to 13.5. PERIOD, to steal a phrase. It's not incumbent on either team to inflate to a different level because it's going to be cold or wet outside. However, because cold and wet do affect psi, the league hasn't thought this out very well because ball pressure will decrease beyond a shadow of a doubt, and then you situations like this.

So to be technical, as long as the balls are between 12.5 and 13.5 psi two hours BEFORE the game, they can be at whatever psi the QB likes AT game time? Right. If true, that DOES seem like the sort of loophole that Belicheat would find and exploit.

http://deadspin.com/nfl-football-manufa ... 1681802079

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[bostonhardo]

You my friend don't know wth you're talking about. The rule is that 2 hrs before the game, when the ref checks them, the balls have to be within 12.5 to 13.5. PERIOD, to steal a phrase. It's not incumbent on either team to inflate to a different level because it's going to be cold or wet outside. However, because cold and wet do affect psi, the league hasn't thought this out very well because ball pressure will decrease beyond a shadow of a doubt, and then you situations like this.

So to be technical, as long as the balls are between 12.5 and 13.5 psi two hours BEFORE the game, they can be at whatever psi the QB likes AT game time? Right. If true, that DOES seem like the sort of loophole that Belicheat would find and exploit.

http://deadspin.com/nfl-football-manufa ... 1681802079

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great post Ron.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

great post Ron.

I'm just here so I don't get fined.