Norton new Raiders DC

[Bigpumpkin]

I am sure Pete will hire a new young stud. But if we want discipline.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Singletary

As much as we "old timers" admire Singletary, it is unlikely that he would consider being LB Coach when he was once a Head Coach. He'd really want to return to the football field if he would consent to this job.

 

[jake206]

You only reinforce my point, never has Carroll been without Norton on his defensive staff. 10 years.

And yet in all that time, he has never made Norton his DC. Even though he's had multiple DC openings, Norton has never gotten that promotion from Pete. Something to at least think about

Yeah, meaning, Norton might never have asked for the promotion. ... or he didn't think the situation was right or Pete didn't think it was right. We'll prolly never know.

 

[Hawkfan77]

You only reinforce my point, never has Carroll been without Norton on his defensive staff. 10 years.

And yet in all that time, he has never made Norton his DC. Even though he's had multiple DC openings, Norton has never gotten that promotion from Pete. Something to at least think about

Yeah, meaning, Norton might never have asked for the promotion. ... or he didn't think the situation was right or Pete didn't think it was right. We'll prolly never know.

This is the point I'm trying to make.

But also, Norton was either going to be the Hawks DC next year or someone else's. Either way, he was never going to be our LB coach next year.

 

[cesame]

Maybe Norton wants to run his own defensive philosophy and not be restricted by what Carroll will allow

Carroll's been running the same defense for decades and he's not going to change it. Whoever the DC is has to make their game plan under Pete's guidelines.

He gets more freedom with the Raiders

 

[hawknation2015]

Maybe Norton wants to run his own defensive philosophy and not be restricted by what Carroll will allow

Carroll's been running the same defense for decades and he's not going to change it. Whoever the DC is has to make their game plan under Pete's guidelines.

He gets more freedom with the Raiders

Probably not . . . Del Rio has his own defensive philosophy. But he is friends with Del Rio, so there's that.

 

[netskier]

IIRC, I've read here numerous times that Norton did not want to be the DC here. I wonder what happened.

 

[hawknation2015]

IIRC, I've read here numerous times that Norton did not want to be the DC here. I wonder what happened.

I would guess a perfect storm of ego and timing. He watched Richard grow into the coach he is today. Maybe he didn't like the idea of being passed over. And then his old teammate offers him an equivalent position? Gone.

 

[Blitzer88]

Man this sucks.......................Ken was a great coached and the payers loved playing for him. Finding someone to replace him will be very difficult. This constant turnover of coaches is gonna hurt us here soon.

 

[Uncle Si]

Man this sucks.......................Ken was a great coached and the payers loved playing for him. Finding someone to replace him will be very difficult. This constant turnover of coaches is gonna hurt us here soon.

Really hurt those Patriots over the last 15 years.

 

[Hawks46]

I don't really care either way, as I have trust in Pete that he'll find a great replacement for Norton.

The biggest issue I can see is that we're probably going to lose Malcom Smith. I hope Norton leaving doesn't stunt Irvin's growth, or KPL's either for that matter.

Irvin, in particular, was on an upward trend. Coupled with his athleticism, he still might turn into one of the best OLB's in the league. He has that potential, and I hope the next guy can unlock it.

 

[sc85sis]

You only reinforce my point, never has Carroll been without Norton on his defensive staff. 10 years. He was a mainstay of that coaching staff.

Stating "never" is incorrect.

Nick Holt coached USC's linebackers under Pete from 2001-2003. Rocky Seto took that position for 2004 and 2005 after Nick became head coach at Idaho. Ken came in as a grad assistant helping with LBs starting in 2004 and became the primary LB coach in 2006. Rocky then moved to secondary coach (he had been an assistant with the secondary in 2003).

 

[DavidSeven]

You only reinforce my point, never has Carroll been without Norton on his defensive staff. 10 years. He was a mainstay of that coaching staff.

Carroll won a national title in 2003 before Norton ever joined his staff.

 

[GCrow]

This week:

 

[Blitzer88]

This week:

Sums up how I have felt pretty well.

 

[firebee]

Why in the hell didn't Pete make Norton our DC? Would've been a perfect fit IMO. What a stupid move letting him go.

My thoughts exactly... WTF!!!!!!

 

[Hasselbeck]

Good for Ken.

Just throwing this name out there for his replacement

Lofa Tatupu

 

[Hasselbeck]

Man this sucks.......................Ken was a great coached and the payers loved playing for him. Finding someone to replace him will be very difficult. This constant turnover of coaches is gonna hurt us here soon.

As long as Pete is here his defense won't change

 

[TDOTSEAHAWK]

Guys, Ken Norton is great but he is an LB coach and our LBs, although there is obvious room for improvement are quite developed. Besides, some fresh blood might be nice.

 

[HawKnPeppa]

Why in the hell didn't Pete make Norton our DC? Would've been a perfect fit IMO. What a stupid move letting him go.

Well, since Pete has worked side by side with Norton for over a decade, I think he knew how he would 'fit' (or not) as DC better than you do.

 

[tmobilchawker79]

I'm going to have to disagree here. Coaching talent is not finite. Look at Gruden, Holmgren, Reid, etc. Norton being promoted is a good thing for this organization. Pete is building a coaching tree and legacy. This is fantastic news