O-line improvement

[Siouxhawk]

My question earlier about timetable for growth is one I'll ask again. Pete just said the breakdown was due primarily to communication issues. So, is that something that can be resolved sooner than later? I'll give the benefit of the doubt because it was Game 1 with the real bullets flying and most are in new positions.

Well according to the Minnesota Vikings, it takes about a month to have a serviceable Oline.

What are the Vikings basing that on, this year's version of their line? I'm not sure that they are the proper authorities to be doling out that kind of wisdom.

Compared to us they are an authority.

http://www.twincities.com/2017/09/12/vikings-offensive-line-answers-plenty-of-questions-in-opener/

But they did play the Saints. Let's see how they fare against Pittsburgh on Sunday.

 

[pittpnthrs]

My question earlier about timetable for growth is one I'll ask again. Pete just said the breakdown was due primarily to communication issues. So, is that something that can be resolved sooner than later? I'll give the benefit of the doubt because it was Game 1 with the real bullets flying and most are in new positions.

Well according to the Minnesota Vikings, it takes about a month to have a serviceable Oline.

What are the Vikings basing that on, this year's version of their line? I'm not sure that they are the proper authorities to be doling out that kind of wisdom.

They were much better than us. Why is that? Is it a talent issue or coaching issue or both?

Interesting
"The Vikings revamped the line after it was ineffective last season and devastated by injuries. Three of the starters are new to the team in Reiff and Remmers, signed as free agents, and Elflein, taken in the third round of the draft. While Easton is starting at a different position, Berger mostly is after having 11 starts last season at center, two at right guard and one at left guard."

 

[pittpnthrs]

Well according to the Minnesota Vikings, it takes about a month to have a serviceable Oline.

What are the Vikings basing that on, this year's version of their line? I'm not sure that they are the proper authorities to be doling out that kind of wisdom.

Compared to us they are an authority.

http://www.twincities.com/2017/09/12/vikings-offensive-line-answers-plenty-of-questions-in-opener/

But they did play the Saints. Let's see how they fare against Pittsburgh on Sunday.

That same Saints defense that smacked us around last year?

 

[Seymour]

What are the Vikings basing that on, this year's version of their line? I'm not sure that they are the proper authorities to be doling out that kind of wisdom.

Compared to us they are an authority.

http://www.twincities.com/2017/09/12/vikings-offensive-line-answers-plenty-of-questions-in-opener/

But they did play the Saints. Let's see how they fare against Pittsburgh on Sunday.

That same Saints defense that smacked us around last year?

Exactly... someone gets it.

 

[Siouxhawk]

We'll see, but I'm not sold on the Vikes' OLine and I really don't see Bradford making it through the year uninjured.

 

[idle Eric]

HOW BAD DOSE IT HAVE TO GET FOR GODS SAKE !!!!!

And how many years of this OL mess Before the "Believers" wake up and see - This isn't working !
It's only getting worse. Something needs to change.

Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

This will happen during or straight after THIS season. This inept pair of Offensive coaches will be Fired, Things will get that bad due directly to this Line THIS SEASON. Hands will be forced. Loyalty etc etc will go. Shame one more year in the window will also have gone.

 

[Siouxhawk]

Or we'll be poised to make another deep run through the playoffs by season's end. There's nothing to suggest my scenario isn't the most realistic.

 

[cymatica]

Or we'll be poised to make another deep run through the playoffs by season's end. There's nothing to suggest my scenario isn't the most realistic.

If by deep run you mean get shut down completely in the 2nd round then you are correct.

 

[chris98251]

Or we'll be poised to make another deep run through the playoffs by season's end. There's nothing to suggest my scenario isn't the most realistic.

Sure there is, the O line rankings going back to Petes first season as Coach.

 

[Smellyman]

Defenders of Cable and Bevell reminds me of the few fans that remained thinking Willingham and Wulff just need more time to turn it around.

 

[Siouxhawk]

Or we'll be poised to make another deep run through the playoffs by season's end. There's nothing to suggest my scenario isn't the most realistic.

If by deep run you mean get shut down completely in the 2nd round then you are correct.

We'll see come January. I'm thinking you'll eating a good helping of crow. Good God, it's like I'm waging war against 49er fans.

 

[Hawks46]

I'm guessing we will see improvement starting this Sunday through week four. I have a feeling though, that I can't shake, that they will stumble noticeably again in week 5. Just a hunch.

Yup. Historically we improve a good bit around week 6. I see that same thing, because week 5 will be bad.

 

[Attyla the Hawk]

Seemed like the line made some improvement of sorts in week two. Will be interested in the next two games (one road, one home). The DL quality drops a bit. So would expect to see some improvement.

 

[hawk45]

Seemed like the line made some improvement of sorts in week two. Will be interested in the next two games (one road, one home). The DL quality drops a bit. So would expect to see some improvement.

They improved statistically relative to the prior week but I had a tough time evaluating where there was actual absolute improvement because they played at home against a worse defense (and based on last night's game not a very good one at all).

I do agree that if the opposing DLs continue to trend downward we should continue to see "apparent" improvement. The Titans are getting pressure on nobody this year, so if they come busting through the line at 1-Mississippi I'm going to burst a blood vessel.

 

[LolaRox]

If they are going to improve they have to do something immediately about your boy Glow, he is a complete mess.

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[iigakusei]

https://twitter.com/guga31bb/status/911304929058476032

 

[Hawk Finn]

Q: What's the difference between our OL and a room full of toddlers?















A: Toddlers will occasionally pick up their blocks

 

[chet380]

Still p*ssed off that the Hawks didn't chance a 7th RD pick on La'el Collins or draft Duvernay-Tardif ( A KC OL stalwart from Day One) in the 7th RD -- he had the highest OL Sparq of his year.

 

[hawkfan68]

Still p*ssed off that the Hawks didn't chance a 7th RD pick on La'el Collins or draft Duvernay-Tardif ( A KC OL stalwart from Day One) in the 7th RD -- he had the highest OL Sparq of his year.

Here's why the Seahawks and other teams avoided Collins in the draft -
"According to Klemko, Collins' agents told teams that if he was drafted after the third round, he would not sign with the team and would instead sit out a year and enter next year's draft. It was a gamble with multiple risks, and teams could have simply ignored the threat."

Link to the full article here - http://www.businessinsider.com/lael-collins-agent-nfl-draft-dallas-cowboys-2015-5

 

[hawkfannj]

I think you gonna see the same stuff we’ve seen the last 2 Plus years .I can’t see why I would miraculously all of a sudden change