kidhawk
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Just a reminder guys...let's keep things on topic and not get too personal.
AusSeahawk":164m914o said:Okay, i did some of my own research into this guy seeing as though most of the comments have been negative.
So i went and looked back at the first two preseason games Philly played against Green Bay and Buffalo.
@Green Bay
He Rolled with the 2nds after the first series playing LT
Looked solid in run blocking had some nice down field blocks on Line backers
Thought he was very good in pass pro only gave up 1-2 pressures but didn't give up a sack
A lot of his blocking was one on one with the defensive end
Picked up a nice stunt in the 2nd qrt
Overall i thought he looked good and IMO already shown more than Fant (why people are high on him i don't know)
Buffalo@ Philly
Started game at RT (Which is significant)
Played half way into the 3rd qrt so got a few more snaps
Thought this was a better game from him had some really good blocks that created holes for the RB's
Was very sound in Pass pro, came up against Lorenzo Alexander and beat him consistently, so much so they moved him to the other side to try get some pressure on the QB.
Overall i like the move we needed more O-line help and ill be honest Fant was worrying me going into the season, he was consistently bad yet the coaches keep saying he was playing well and improving :shock:.
At least this move at worst gives us option at both LT & RT as Tobin looked very solid at both.
What a novel idea. Someone actually doing a little research and gathering information to make an informed opinion...Seahawkfan80":22sqwpxu said:AusSeahawk":22sqwpxu said:Okay, i did some of my own research into this guy seeing as though most of the comments have been negative.
So i went and looked back at the first two preseason games Philly played against Green Bay and Buffalo.
@Green Bay
He Rolled with the 2nds after the first series playing LT
Looked solid in run blocking had some nice down field blocks on Line backers
Thought he was very good in pass pro only gave up 1-2 pressures but didn't give up a sack
A lot of his blocking was one on one with the defensive end
Picked up a nice stunt in the 2nd qrt
Overall i thought he looked good and IMO already shown more than Fant (why people are high on him i don't know)
Buffalo@ Philly
Started game at RT (Which is significant)
Played half way into the 3rd qrt so got a few more snaps
Thought this was a better game from him had some really good blocks that created holes for the RB's
Was very sound in Pass pro, came up against Lorenzo Alexander and beat him consistently, so much so they moved him to the other side to try get some pressure on the QB.
Overall i like the move we needed more O-line help and ill be honest Fant was worrying me going into the season, he was consistently bad yet the coaches keep saying he was playing well and improving :shock:.
At least this move at worst gives us option at both LT & RT as Tobin looked very solid at both.
I like this post. Thanks. It helps reading something that one of our own has researched.
massari":3si8ppot said:
"Across from him, an injury to Andrew Gardner forced Matt Tobin into the lineup. Tobin recorded the worst pass protection grade we’ve ever given to an OG (since 2007). He finished with a 30.9 grade (1–100 scale) in that facet of play, giving up eight sacks, 11 hits, and 31 hurries." - PFF
NFSeahawks628":7jyq1kr7 said:massari":7jyq1kr7 said:
"Across from him, an injury to Andrew Gardner forced Matt Tobin into the lineup. Tobin recorded the worst pass protection grade we’ve ever given to an OG (since 2007). He finished with a 30.9 grade (1–100 scale) in that facet of play, giving up eight sacks, 11 hits, and 31 hurries." - PFF
SO BASICALLY.... hes Ifedi.
I love having a line that collapses in on itself.
kidhawk":13wczh81 said:NFSeahawks628":13wczh81 said:massari":13wczh81 said:
"Across from him, an injury to Andrew Gardner forced Matt Tobin into the lineup. Tobin recorded the worst pass protection grade we’ve ever given to an OG (since 2007). He finished with a 30.9 grade (1–100 scale) in that facet of play, giving up eight sacks, 11 hits, and 31 hurries." - PFF
SO BASICALLY.... hes Ifedi.
I love having a line that collapses in on itself.
One game does not a career make...nor does one good game. We'll know in a few weeks if he earns the job here or not.
AusSeahawk":1t9hzz7q said:Okay, i did some of my own research into this guy seeing as though most of the comments have been negative.
So i went and looked back at the first two preseason games Philly played against Green Bay and Buffalo.
@Green Bay
He Rolled with the 2nds after the first series playing LT
Looked solid in run blocking had some nice down field blocks on Line backers
Thought he was very good in pass pro only gave up 1-2 pressures but didn't give up a sack
A lot of his blocking was one on one with the defensive end
Picked up a nice stunt in the 2nd qrt
Overall i thought he looked good and IMO already shown more than Fant (why people are high on him i don't know)
Buffalo@ Philly
Started game at RT (Which is significant)
Played half way into the 3rd qrt so got a few more snaps
Thought this was a better game from him had some really good blocks that created holes for the RB's
Was very sound in Pass pro, came up against Lorenzo Alexander and beat him consistently, so much so they moved him to the other side to try get some pressure on the QB.
Overall i like the move we needed more O-line help and ill be honest Fant was worrying me going into the season, he was consistently bad yet the coaches keep saying he was playing well and improving :shock:.
At least this move at worst gives us option at both LT & RT as Tobin looked very solid at both.
jammerhawk":3h80vcgr said:Holy Moly, reason rather than knee jerk.
Amazing!
There has to be something negative you can point to AusSeahawk. After all, the coaches and FO are always never as smart as amateurs on a fan board.
AusSeahawk":ccstje8q said:jammerhawk":ccstje8q said:Holy Moly, reason rather than knee jerk.
Amazing!
There has to be something negative you can point to AusSeahawk. After all, the coaches and FO are always never as smart as amateurs on a fan board.
Of course there are negatives just like any other player. I'm not going to pretend and say i know hes going to be a gun LT or RT for us.
To my eye he looked good, it would be great if someone who knew a little about O-line play looked at the first two preseason games and gave a summary on how he did.
Obviously a little bit since they tendered him but wouldn't overpay a single penny over what was required. It isn't like he's all that and a bag of chips. Let the 49ers overpay for average it's the downfall of many NFL franchises and few GM's avoid it consistently.Coug_Hawk08":1o0qgsiu said:After handing Ifedi the right tackle job, and now this Tobin business. . . I am thinking, how much did they hate Gilliam?
Josea16":1paxac20 said:Obviously a little bit since they tendered him but wouldn't overpay a single penny over what was required. It isn't like he's all that and a bag of chips. Let the 49ers overpay for average it's the downfall of many NFL franchises and few GM's avoid it consistently.Coug_Hawk08":1paxac20 said:After handing Ifedi the right tackle job, and now this Tobin business. . . I am thinking, how much did they hate Gilliam?
If your serious I say go for it. Uninfortunatly you tripped my sardar. Try harder because the first attempt did entertain me.King Dog":29qwqn48 said:Wentz tweeted that he's gonna kneel the rest of the season for the national anthem, in protest of Howie making the Tobin trade.