This team will never make another SB with Bevell

[hawkfan68]

The offense again was terrible in the red zone and it almost cost them the game. While San Francisco was scoring tds, they settled for FGs. Luckily they were playing the 2nd worst team in the NFL otherwise this game could have gone the opposite way.

While the Seahawks finished 7-1 at home, they almost lost to Dolphins and Falcons at Centurylink. The offense was inept for most of the Dolphins game and the Seahawks were a referee judgement call away from losing against the Falcons. They are much worse on both sides of the ball currently. Hopefully they wake up this week and put together a game like they did against the Pats. It's now time.

 

[kf3339]

I hope he is wrong too, I wouldn't mind going to another parade in February in downtown Seattle freezing my limbs off again.
:2thumbs:
.....but it's going to take a perfect storm of A+ execution, A+ gameplanning, A+ playcalling, no more injuries, plus the fill ins (McEvoy, Collins, etc) need to have career games. We cannot continue to spot teams quarters and halfs on offense, and cannot continue to play no pressure soft zone defense that gives the opposing QB eight years to throw the ball.....as good playoff caliber teams will make you pay dearly for that. The O-line needs to be better and both the Coords need to scheme and play call like they are not in some mental quicksand.

It CAN be done but it's asking a lot for a Tiger to change its stripes in a weeks time.

:ditto:

 

[Maulbert]

If anyone is shown the door, it should be Cable and his science experiments at the OL first.

 

[NJlargent]

We have witnessed our 2/3 of our best offensive players this year give Bevell the finger (Baldwin and essentially graham with his over the top TD celebration) and Beast a couple years ago (who was the soul of the dominant squads) and have witnessed Sherman essentially do so as well within the last couple weeks. Yet there is still a debate whether Bevell should be fired. But then again, going for 2 when you're up 7 and putting in Boykin with a 3 seed on the line and coming off a debilitating home loss is also defensible.

 

[seahawkfreak]

This OP is nothing but blatant foolishness with a bunch of falsities.
Guess some people just like to read their own writing and think they're something.

With all due respect I do not see that many falsities on what the OP is saying.

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I respect your defense of an OC that PC has hand picked and that you fully back Pete Carroll. I think however that PC's loyalty to his OC has become problematic. There was probably a time where the criticism was very over reactionary towards Darrell but I think his defenders have run out of any leverage and it has gotten to the point where he has run out of excuses. Honestly, for myself the last straw was DB's inability to get plays in on time. He did it with RW and TR and it has been going on for years. This is a high level coach on an NFL team who at the very least is unprepared and put his QB's in a difficult position multiple times in the past and today.

 

[Trrrroy]

Ever think that maybe the OL, RB's, and Russell Wilson had something to do with the bad offensive year? Nope, nope. It's Bevell. Gotta be. The two superbowl appearances, consecutive playoff streak, and finishing top 10 in offensive DVOA the past three years was all in spite of him....

 

[Siouxhawk]

This OP is nothing but blatant foolishness with a bunch of falsities.
Guess some people just like to read their own writing and think they're something.

You are not exactly impartial when it comes to Sir Bevell.

Maybe so, but I do know that what is being written here by the OP is straight out of the land of make believe. There's not some glaring schism taking place in our locker room. It's no secret that we play with a combatitive edge and bite, which you saw today from Reed and Clark ... and that makes us nasty and productive. It's not a negative as sone would have you believe.

We have seen the public display of disdain for our offense with Sherman, if you are not in the Locker Room then how do you know there isn't a divisive issue unless you are in there, are you in there?

If your not then the opinion your challenging is just as valid as your argument against it.

None of us are in the locker room, so I guess if we don't see comments from players or coaches on the matter, there's nothing to it. Just hunches, which are fine.
And we should be clear on the Sherman outburst. It wasn't so much the play call, but rather the fact that we had the audacity to call ANY pass play from the 1. It was fitting justice then that we scored that eventual touchdown on a pass play.
And on that pass play, you saw ADB show support for our offense and Bevell by pointedly delivering the touchdown ball to the coaching staff and giving Bev a hug. Russ also gave our OC a complimentary point of his finger as a celebratory shout-out when he threw the deep route to Lockett for a touchown.
We have love in our locker room. There may be little squabbles that flare up from time to time, but that's more a sibling rivalry more than anything else. It's our edge.

 

[jake206]

Would you rather have Bevell as coordinator or Chip Kelly? Just putting this out there. :lol:

 

[chris98251]

Neither, I don't think Chip can play well with others, he is much too opinioned for our team.

 

[seahawkfreak]

Ever think that maybe the OL, RB's, and Russell Wilson had something to do with the bad offensive year? Nope, nope. It's Bevell. Gotta be. The two superbowl appearances, consecutive playoff streak, and finishing top 10 in offensive DVOA the past three years was all in spite of him....

And yet we are 18th this year in the DVOA rankings in offense. You think Marshawn Lynch had anything to do with the success of offense in past years? If not where was DB's magic this year because he obviously the reason we have done so well over the past couple years. Seriously Id be more impressed if you tried to defend our long snapper.

 

[Siouxhawk]

This OP is nothing but blatant foolishness with a bunch of falsities.
Guess some people just like to read their own writing and think they're something.

With all due respect I do not see that many falsities on what the OP is saying.

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[urltargetblank]http://www.hngn.com/articles/130073/20150916/marshawn-lynch-mom-unhappy-darrell-bevell.htm[/urltargetblank]

[urltargetblank]http://nextimpulsesports.com/2013/10/17/marshawn-lynch-gives-someone-finger/[/urltargetblank]

[urltargetblank]http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/seattle-seahawks-richard-sherman-yelling-coaches-sideline-eruption-run-new-england-patriots-super-bowl-pass-121616[/urltargetblank]

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I respect your defense of an OC that PC has hand picked and that you fully back Pete Carroll. I think however that PC's loyalty to his OC has become problematic. There was probably a time where the criticism was very over reactionary towards Darrell but I think his defenders have run out of any leverage and it has gotten to the point where he has run out of excuses. Honestly, for myself the last straw was DB's inability to get plays in on time. He did it with RW and TR and it has been going on for years. This is a high level coach on an NFL team who at the very least is unprepared and put his QB's in a difficult position multiple times in the past and today.

Everything about it is full of falsities, none more glaring than the title which says the team will never make another Super Bowl with Bev as the OC. All you have to refute that is look to history. Making 2 Super Bowls in the last 3 years would lead anyone to believe that since that path has been blazed before, a repeat performance is more likely than someone who hasn't crossed that boundry. That's logic.
Other blatant speculation is this insistence that a locker room divide is taking place. I don't believe that for a minute. It's funny that people are using examples of Baldwin and Lynch flipping Bevell the bird. We all know that Doug did it as an inside joke and Marshawn .... no one knows what his intentions were there and we never will. And Jimmy was just showing a burst of emotion after his TD grab. That's the kind of fire every player should have.
All I know is we win with Bevell pushing the buttons on offense and that group is regularly one of the best DVOA performers in the league. That adds up to success to me.

 

[jake206]

I swear Seahawks fans are a rare breed. The memes roasting Bevell... its both creative and entertaining, to say the least.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/EarIThomas/status/812029482215219200[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/firebevell/status/812055204304748548[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/pastorablebaker/status/815803984799678464[/tweet]

 

[Bigpumpkin]

Last year, we won one Post Season game. If we lose this Saturday, it is a clear sign that the team is going backwards. I think that there will be major changes ...beginning with the Coaches.

 

[RolandDeschain]

This OP is nothing but blatant foolishness with a bunch of falsities.
Guess some people just like to read their own writing and think they're something.

I can't wait until this is proven to be you when we eventually get rid of Bevell and subsequently have a noticeably better offense. What's your excuse going to be?

 

[Sealake80]

There is a culture of truth telling within this franchise. They are not afraid to call each other on their bull shit. But they are capable of moving past it when tensions flare.

Sherman is the man. DB can handle it. The leadership on this team is stronger than most here seem to think. There is my opinion.

 

[Trrrroy]

What happens when we replace Bevell and we still have a subpar O-line, backup RB's, and Wilson looking worse than he ever has?

 

[cymatica]

Instead of "sea....hawks" the crowd should chant "Bev...ell". This will make him feel good. His playcalling will be amazing.

 

[Rob12]

Too simplistic, IMO.

Blaming Bevell is what the cool kids do but until Pete addresses the offensive line, Tom Cable, and the ineffectiveness of the ZBS, it won't matter who we have at OC.

Bevell is far from perfect and is not above criticism in the least, but it has to be hard to run an effective offense with such a terrible offensive line for three years running now.

 

[tmobilchawker79]

Rob's right on point, as usual.

Once we see good OLine play, with time for Russ to make decisions, subsequent failure can be laid at Bevell's feet.

Hold the pitchforks for later.

 

[Siouxhawk]

Rob's right on point, as usual.

Once we see good OLine play, with time for Russ to make decisions, subsequent failure can be laid at Bevell's feet.

Hold the pitchforks for later.

You make too much sense. They just want a scapegoat.