Popeyejones":2m8gonri said:
Just to reiterate the Graham statement and what it was in response to:
Archer said Graham was on pace to put up good season numbers before he got hurt. I replied that he was on pace to put up career lows (not counting his rookie year) in catches, yards, ypg, and TDs.
I wasn't engaging in a debate of imagination over things that hypothetically could have happened but didn't happen, nor do I have any interest in debating imaginary events.
TBF, I don't think anybody was expecting Graham to put up the same numbers as he was on the Saints (or at least should have), but that's kinda the problem also. Everything Graham does with proficiency shows up on the stats sheet, so if you're not getting that stat sheet, what are you paying for?
Did you expect Graham to put up the same numbers here as in NO? Because if so, then of course you are going to be disappointed. We do not run the same offense. However, Graham would have had a good year for a hawk if he hadn't been injured.
Graham's career avg:
1099 yds
89 catches
12.4 avg
2015 (extrapolated to 16 games)
880 yds
70 catches
12.6 avg
It's a volume problem. Same as everyone pointed out with Tate. It doesn't mean the player is horrible here, they don't have as many opportunties. In Graham's case, a good 20 catches under his average. Efficiency wise he's on the same pace. The Seahawks have not had a tight end put up those numbers in as long as I can remember. You'll probably point out the touchdowns are well below his average and that is true. We continued to have redzone problems the first part of last year and Graham did not solve that.
However, I'm done arguing with you because I don't actually care what you think and like I said earlier, it's going to remain to be seen as to whether the Graham acquisition will be worth it and a lot of it depends on his recovery. I'm glad that I'm not a niner fan who is so miserable that I'm on another teams board arguing that their coaching staff is bad at development/utilization when they are known for the exact opposite.