Why not blame Russell Wilson
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Wilson also missed some throws. Let's not ignore the fact he was part of the offensive problem. Maybe not the biggest part.. but he wasnt good.
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Just like posting political topics you cannot post blame Wilson threads. It's never his fault. Damn I wish he had an o line and a coach that let him throw the ball downfield instead of sideways.
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Uncle Si":2d5cq46v said:
He was throwing some desperate Marys out there, looking for Kearse I'm sure.. btw.. who is his new Kearse?
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Bobblehead":ovytgwxx said:
Whoever starts dropping passes...maybe Willssson . Richardson seems to win the one on ones
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Wenhawk":2ym6ydh4 said:
Nope, GB had a backup RT and no first year starters. They didn't even look that good. Rodgers made some incredible plays and is a crafty vet so he got us on the substitution play.
We've seen Brady play with a garbage OL at the end of 2015 and the Pats eventually couldn't overcome it and went 2-4 to end the year, losing out on the #1 seed. That's 15 year vet Brady with excellent OC Josh McDaniels. To expect Wilson to overcome it with this playcalling is absurd.
He did miss some throws, but even the deep throw to Lockett, he was getting clocked by Daniels just as he released the ball, didn't have his feet properly set. You say he was slow to scramble, but he contributed a huge chunk of our running production on the day. So yes, you can say Russ deserves blame, but not a huge portion of it.
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They might have ruined him as a QB. The past 2 seasons hes been under so much pressure hes just shook now.
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David Carr syndrome...
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Crizilla":k2wlpmih said:
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Wilson hasn't been the same QB since he started trying to be a drop back passer.
He's gone away from what makes the offense as effective as it used to be. Those read zone plays, where he actually ran the ball.. bootlegs.
I still think he's too short for those quick slants and outs as he just can't find the targets fast enough through those huge linemen.
He needs to start do what he used to do until he can't do it no more, it's his game and that won't change.
He's gone away from what makes the offense as effective as it used to be. Those read zone plays, where he actually ran the ball.. bootlegs.
I still think he's too short for those quick slants and outs as he just can't find the targets fast enough through those huge linemen.
He needs to start do what he used to do until he can't do it no more, it's his game and that won't change.
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Bobblehead":ud2ivjb8 said:
But they didn't call those kinds of plays yesterday. I don't think the zone read was used much, nor were bootlegs. We saw in the second half of '15 that Russ absolutely can hit those short routes in rhythm. He had the highest passer rating from the pocket that year.
Bobblehead":26hujna1 said:
That is all on the coaches. I've beat this drum a thousand times.
They have abandoned the read option completely....tired of typing. Copy and paste a previous post...
What made the running game great was Lynch AND Wilson. Teams couldn't key on either one running the read option or they'd have huge gains. They opened holes for each other.
The Read option is completely abandoned now.
News flash coaches. The read option doesn't get RW killed (he actually can protect himself running the RO), it is thinking this line can create a pocket for him. That is going to kill him.
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Smellyman":2i9vhncq said:
I totally agree, it helped the running game, kept the offense on the field and wore out the opposing D's.
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Okay, I found this on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/6 ... lation_to/
Comparing pressure rate with time to throw. The model is that lower time to throw mitigates pressure by getting the ball out before the rush can affect the QB. Thus, the ratio between time to throw and pressure rate ranking should be close to 1.0. This guy compiled the stats from the 2016 regular season and another guy made a graph of them.
https://imgur.com/a/MjDMo
I've circled Russ in blue, Tom Brady in red, and Rodgers in green. We can see that Brady's quick release relative to his peers mitigates the pressure he faces, again relative to the other QBs in the league, about exactly as expected. Rodgers holds the ball longer and experiences much less pressure than one would expect, so he's below the trendline. Russ holds the ball barely longer than Brady and experiences pressure at a much higher rate, relatively. So this whole "blame Wilson, Brady and Aaron get the ball out quicker even if their OL are worse, why can't Russ do that?" argument doesn't properly account for RW's circumstances.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/6 ... lation_to/
Comparing pressure rate with time to throw. The model is that lower time to throw mitigates pressure by getting the ball out before the rush can affect the QB. Thus, the ratio between time to throw and pressure rate ranking should be close to 1.0. This guy compiled the stats from the 2016 regular season and another guy made a graph of them.
https://imgur.com/a/MjDMo
I've circled Russ in blue, Tom Brady in red, and Rodgers in green. We can see that Brady's quick release relative to his peers mitigates the pressure he faces, again relative to the other QBs in the league, about exactly as expected. Rodgers holds the ball longer and experiences much less pressure than one would expect, so he's below the trendline. Russ holds the ball barely longer than Brady and experiences pressure at a much higher rate, relatively. So this whole "blame Wilson, Brady and Aaron get the ball out quicker even if their OL are worse, why can't Russ do that?" argument doesn't properly account for RW's circumstances.
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