With Paul Allen's passing what will happen to the Hawks?

[PlinytheCenter]

She is going to sell both teams.

 

[Seymour]

She is going to sell both teams.

That is a pretty serious comment that looks to be stated as fact. Why on earth post that with no supporting information? :177692:

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Obviously anything right now in regards to this topic is pure speculation.

My hope is that Jody keeps the Hawks and keeps the already highly functional chain of command internally in place. Nothing ruins a franchise quicker than a new owner that cleans house and thinks he/she knows better than the already smart savvy people running the team...........and drives it right into a ditch.

 

[PlinytheCenter]

She is going to sell both teams.

That is a pretty serious comment that looks to be stated as fact. Why on earth post that with no supporting information? :177692:

Just a gut feeling, that's all. We'll find out shortly I suppose.

 

[ivotuk]

Whatever happens, it will have to be with the approval of NFL ownership.

They liked Paul, and I doubt they'd have any interest in the team moving.

The Seahawks have a Worlwide following, which means jersey sales and money for the NFL. Are they going to want to shoot themselves in the foot buy starting all over? Especially with the pissed off Chargers and Rams fans already venting their frustrations?

The reaction to a Seahawks move would be extremely negative because the team name would likely change and there is no following for a newly named team like there is for the Chargers, Rams, and Browns.

And what big city fans would follow this team with a new name after dissing on it for years and seeing it get screwed time after time? "Don't move them here, give us an expansion team instead."

 

[HawkFan72]

Paul Allen was the perfect owner. Abundantly rich, but humble and kind. He had a passionate interest in the team, but he was hands-off unless he needed to step in. You can't find a better combo than that.

 

[Seymour]

Whatever happens, it will have to be with the approval of NFL ownership.

They liked Paul, and I doubt they'd have any interest in the team moving.

The Seahawks have a Worlwide following, which means jersey sales and money for the NFL. Are they going to want to shoot themselves in the foot buy starting all over? Especially with the pissed off Chargers and Rams fans already venting their frustrations?

The reaction to a Seahawks move would be extremely negative because the team name would likely change and there is no following for a newly named team like there is for the Chargers, Rams, and Browns.

And what big city fans would follow this team with a new name after dissing on it for years and seeing it get screwed time after time? "Don't move them here, give us an expansion team instead."

Add the Raiders fans to that too. Rumor has it they may be tearing down as part of their move plan.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Whatever happens, it will have to be with the approval of NFL ownership.

They liked Paul, and I doubt they'd have any interest in the team moving.

The Seahawks have a Worlwide following, which means jersey sales and money for the NFL. Are they going to want to shoot themselves in the foot buy starting all over? Especially with the pissed off Chargers and Rams fans already venting their frustrations?

The reaction to a Seahawks move would be extremely negative because the team name would likely change and there is no following for a newly named team like there is for the Chargers, Rams, and Browns.

And what big city fans would follow this team with a new name after dissing on it for years and seeing it get screwed time after time? "Don't move them here, give us an expansion team instead."

I don't think anyone's thinking the team would move with a new owner.

Even if the team's sold, the new owner would be an idiot to move the Hawks. Affluent city, insanely loyal and amazing fanbase, great stadium, THE best practice and training facility in the entire league. There literally isn't one good reason to move a team like the Hawks...............and BECAUSE of Behring the NFL owners created the Behring Rule where it requires a 3/4 approval vote to move any franchise.

 

[AubHawk71]

Ding ding ding, Sgt Largent for the win. It would make no sense for the NFL owners to let the team move. St louis was too small a market. San Diego and Oakland dont pencil out (sucky stadiums for one thing.) Moving is unlikely, now inept new ownership...yikes. Mariners...ugh.

 

[Mad Dog]

At this point we don't even know if the Seahawks were left to Jody Allen. From what i've read from Vulcan there is a plan in place for the team and I'm sure it absolutely enforces no move.

And it's not like there is a better market that needs an NFL team. Seahawks represent the PNW and its in the leagues best interest to have a franchise in such a large corner of the US. Seattle's proximity to Canada also means the Hawks have a huge following in Canada with the second largest Canadian city a mere 2 hours away. That's a lot of revenue.

My hope is that Paul's sister does stay involved and is able to convince another tech billionaire to form a stable partnership that ensures the team remains in Seattle and is focused on greatness rather than just lining the owners pockets.

That was Paul's greatest asset. He didn't care about the money he could make off the Seahawks. He cared that the team won and understood that the best way to do that isn't to meddle incessantly but to find the best football minds and hire them to do their thing.

 

[chris98251]

Paul's ownership wasn't ego driven, why it was so successful versus say a Snyder or a Jones and Behring.


But he got the rewards from it and stayed humble, Loved by the Fans, his staff's and people he hired, Lynch's post screams the kind of respect he had from everyone.

I would also say that just because he was 65 and had Cancer does not mean he had all the I's dotted and T's crossed as far as a Will, I would imagine a large amount is going to be donated to his business enterprises and Charities, I am sure his sister is very close to him or she would not have all the responsibilities she has already, but her interests are not Paul's wholly, she is her own person.

Look at the Saints mess, the Rams mess with Georgia, Titans, things are still being sorted out in some of those areas. All those people that owned those teams were rich and prosperous, sometimes you feel why a will I am going to beat this since I beat it before also.

I am sure there is a successor plan in place for a lot of his interests, Sports teams are a bit different due to the visibility as well as the League meetings that require ownership votes as well.


Someone will have to be named at least interim representation.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I would also say that just because he was 65 and had Cancer does not mean he had all the I's dotted and T's crossed as far as a Will.

Allen had been dealing with this cancer since his 30's, so believe me he had all his long range planning done years and years ago with his various business interests, including the Hawks.

In fact, after Allen's cancer came back it's probably what facilitated McLoughlin leaving the Hawks in September and longtime COO Arnold being promoted to team president of operations for the Hawks and First and Goal..........as well as McGowan being named President of Vulcan Sports, which overseas both the Hawks and Trailblazers.

These are both VERY longtime NW people firmly entrenched in our area that Allen complicitly entrusts.

 

[chris98251]

I would also say that just because he was 65 and had Cancer does not mean he had all the I's dotted and T's crossed as far as a Will.

Allen had been dealing with this cancer since his 30's, so believe me he had all his long range planning done years and years ago with his various business interests, including the Hawks.

In fact, after Allen's cancer came back it's probably what facilitated McLoughlin leaving the Hawks in September and longtime COO Arnold being promoted to team president of operations for the Hawks and First and Goal..........as well as McGowan being named President of Vulcan Sports, which overseas both the Hawks and Trailblazers.

These are both VERY longtime NW people firmly entrenched in our area that Allen complicitly entrusts.

Cool but as I said, all it takes is one oops in a situation such as his with his wealth and the Vultures start to circle.


You never concede to a disease if you want to win the battle, I hope it is nothing and we can have a great memory and his legacy remains what it is without a messy legal situation concerning his assets.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I would also say that just because he was 65 and had Cancer does not mean he had all the I's dotted and T's crossed as far as a Will.

Allen had been dealing with this cancer since his 30's, so believe me he had all his long range planning done years and years ago with his various business interests, including the Hawks.

In fact, after Allen's cancer came back it's probably what facilitated McLoughlin leaving the Hawks in September and longtime COO Arnold being promoted to team president of operations for the Hawks and First and Goal..........as well as McGowan being named President of Vulcan Sports, which overseas both the Hawks and Trailblazers.

These are both VERY longtime NW people firmly entrenched in our area that Allen complicitly entrusts.

Cool but as I said, all it takes is one oops in a situation such as his with his wealth and the Vultures start to circle.


You never concede to a disease if you want to win the battle, I hope it is nothing and we can have a great memory and his legacy remains what it is without a messy legal situation concerning his assets.

Oh I'm always worried with new owners, but I have no worry whatsoever that Allen didn't have his affairs in order as you were alluding to.

He's been putting them in order for most of his adult life unfortunately.

 

[toffee]

My fear is the now unavoidable new ownership will want to put their "own people" in to run the team, that would mean the end of Pete and John.

 

[KitsapGuy]

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[BlueTalon]

My fear is the now unavoidable new ownership will want to put their "own people" in to run the team, that would mean the end of Pete and John.

Is that fear actually based on anything? Or are you just letting scenarios kinda run wild in your mind?

 

[Sgt. Largent]

My fear is the now unavoidable new ownership will want to put their "own people" in to run the team, that would mean the end of Pete and John.

If it's his sister Jody, I don't think we have anything to worry about.

If she sells? Then maybe it's time to worry, I just hope if it comes to that now or in the future that Allen put safeguards in place that the team has to remain in Seattle.

Too many idiots like the Nordstroms and Schultz put blind trust in outside of the NW owners coming in here telling the truth about how much they love Seattle and would never move the team.

IMO no Seattle owner should EVER sell to another person or group outside the Seattle area.

 

[chris98251]

My fear is the now unavoidable new ownership will want to put their "own people" in to run the team, that would mean the end of Pete and John.

If it's his sister Jody, I don't think we have anything to worry about.

If she sells? Then maybe it's time to worry, I just hope if it comes to that now or in the future that Allen put safeguards in place that the team has to remain in Seattle.

Too many idiots like the Nordstroms and Schultz put blind trust in outside of the NW owners coming in here telling the truth about how much they love Seattle and would never move the team.

IMO no Seattle owner should EVER sell to another person or group outside the Seattle area.

Behring lied to the Nordstroms, he made the team a laughing stock to move them to LA, I remember when it first happened the question was raised and the Nordstroms said he was committed to Seattle.

L.A Blackhawks was what they were going to be called, after his Real Estate Investment company.

 

[toffee]

My fear is the now unavoidable new ownership will want to put their "own people" in to run the team, that would mean the end of Pete and John.

Is that fear actually based on anything? Or are you just letting scenarios kinda run wild in your mind?

Just my experience with the 9ers.

Eddie's sister became the owner of 9ers after Eddie got into casino troubles. Sister Denise asked her husband John York to run the team. First thing John did was to cut expenses, from banning bottled water to every penny he could pinch, then got cute with football, let Bill Walsh, then as GM go, got ride of Mooch with his "own hire" Dennis Eriksen, but Dennis wasn't allowed to hire his own assist coaches; then flipped Dennis to Mike "man with a plan" Nolan; to Mike "can motivate" Singletary; to Jim "insist on meeting York at 5am" Harbaugh; to Jim Tomsula; to Chip Kelly; to Lynch/Shanny. All those coaches in 15 years with three winning season; in Eddie's era, almost 20 continuous winning seasons and five rings.

In short, 9ers' ownership changed from Eddie to his sister then experienced 3 winning seasons out of 15 with non stop dramas. Not saying we will have the same nasty experience, but we had it good with Paul, just hope nothing will change.